Satsang with Mohanji in Novi Sad, Serbia 7th May, 2014
Q: I had super sensations during the meditation this time, really. I saw my hand with my eyes closed with beautiful white light, and I couldn’t believe it, I just moved my hand in front of my face. This was the first time I saw this.
A: This is normal. These are stages of evolution. When you come to subtler level where gross is not blocking you, like, body is very gross, mind is also gross, intellect is gross, ego is gross, you’re going beyond it to your real form which is very soft and subtle, which is bright. The moment you touch that, you can see all the gross. Maybe you have seen my pictures with the hands transparent. Actually it is true. It is not imagination. When you are connecting to very subtle energy and you are conveying it, you become like that. The whole constitution changes.
Q: I know theoretically that we are beings of light. But for the first time I felt that.
A: This is my job.
Q: I feel happiness, and gratitude, and…
A: You are connecting to me very deeply, so the level of grossness is dissolving. That’s why.
Q: Aha, ok.
A: Why do we keep the picture of the eyes in the card? Because when you connect to the eyes, you connect to the consciousness. That’s why. Eyes are like gateways. Through the eyes you connect to the consciousness. So when you connect deeply, that is the consciousness working on. So you are able to see through. That is why people are coming to me.
Q: But I didn’t even try!
A: No need to try. The moment you try, the mind comes in the picture. When you don’t try, the mind is sleeping.
Q: That is tricky thing, I know…
A: That is the point. Most of the people connect only to the gross, terrestrial, “Why is this happening, why is that happening…can you do this, can you do that…” These are all immaterial. What can you BE is material. This is what is more important. You can be absolutely powerful when you are absolutely subtle. The moment you connect to the gross, the aches and pains, and the changes are there. You cannot avoid it.
And if you noticed, the subtler you become, the more you want to detach from people. The more you want to be silent. Even small sounds might not be good for you. Do you know why? Because our nature is silence. Sound is not our nature. So once we transdcend over, we start loving silence. Silence is not even somebody not speaking. Even silence from inside will be beautiful. So we will be more connected to the silence and we will detach from the sound. We may even detach from the people. Like one person from Belgrade wrote to me today, “I just want to sit next to you because I never felt so much silence with anybody in life.” He said, “I met you for a few minutes and I became silent and this feeling hasn’t gone yet, after two or three days. He said, “I just want to come and sit near you. Don’t talk to me. Don’t even answer my questions. Just let me be near you.” Why is this happening? Because this is your nature. When you find your nature, you will not leave it. Otherwise you will keep checking, searching. The search will go on. The moment you find the nature, your true nature, you will never leave it.
Another thing in the same context, the more you are checking why this is so, why that is so, or is this real, we are entertaining the mind. We are energising the mind. Mind is the storehouse of questions. So the more we search why, why, why, we are just making the sound in the mind. The more we are entertaining the mind, the longer mind will stay. When the mind stays, you can never connect to the truth.
Q: Very simple. And very hard at the same time!
A: But the diagnosis is more difficult than cure. So diagnosis is done. The cause of the problem is mind. Now the cure is easy. The medicine is simple. Do not energise your mind. Dont think it’s difficult, because thoughts come without our calling. But don’t entertain them. Feel them, leave them. Always feel your thoughts, feel your actions, feel life. This itself will be great. Rather see, and listen and make voice, feel. Feel life. he moment you start feeling, it’s not normal senses which are working. You are internalising it. So if you are touching and feeling life… children do that, you’ve seen. Children feel materials, they are more feeling oriented until we tell them “Look here…” In our path we only tell people where to look, we never tell people what to see. Because you already know what to see. And you will only see what you need to see. When you start feeling life, feel the sun, feel the moon, feel the cold, feel the heat, what happens is there ends desire for feeling. You will not postpone it. Feeling need not be from the mind. The mind can be used to feel, but mind is not the only faculty which can feel. When you read a book, you feel something. It’s reality for you. That is not from the mind. It’s from the intellect. You operate in multiple levels, but the moment you start feeling from inside, the desire ends there. There are no more desires. For example, you have coffee. You feel the coffee. Then you have no more desire for a new coffee. But if you are watching the television and having the coffee, half an hour later you want another coffee. Why is it so? The feeling is not registered inside. You were not here while you were drinking coffee. Like that, repetition happens, if your mind is not present, or you are not feeling. So, feel more than see or hear or think. And when you start feeling yourself, most of the questions end. Because you connect to your own nature. See, the only reality for you is your own nature. Each person has a different nature. You are born with it. And that is the nature which you have to connect to, for being real in this world, for being successful in life.
Q: During the meditation I felt I was in some state between dream and peace. I cannot define it nor did I want to analyse it. I felt I was radiating from third eye chakra, solar plexus and my hand, as if some kind of beam was coming out of me. When we finished, I saw a white belt around you and people who were next to the wall, looking like a cloak. It wasn’t a play of shadows, a reflection of light.
A: There are various energies in the plane of existence, not only here, everywhere. THey are all looking for redemption, they are all looking for elevation. And many of them get a redemption also, in our process. This is one side. Second is for you what happened was you reached the state of altered consciousness. That means connecting more to the soul. When you are connecting to the soul, that is exactly what we are trying to do in our meditation, we are bringing you from the gross to the subtle, and then you reach a state of altered consciousness, where you can see much more than you can normally see with your senses, eyes. In that state you will see much more. That is why i said connect to my consciousness, that is why we keep the eyes in the card. States change very rapidly provided we allow it. Your receptivity is very high. It is normal that you are able to see much more. Because you are able to move into the consciousness. The mind is the blocking factor here. Mind confuses between the superficial like the body and expression, and the real, they say, “I know Mohanji, he is this, or how he talks…” But it is nothing. The moment you connect to the consciousness it’s a completely different world.
Q: When some people started crying, my heart was aching tremendously. Like I was crying, too.
A: Because it becomes one consciousness, like my extended consciousness, and I take out things. When this meditation happens, even when I’m not here, it works the same way, that is why it’s going popular all over the world. Actually speaking, we are all related that is why we met. We can call ourselves as soul mates. Soul mate is not husband and wife. These are a set of souls who decided to meet at this plane. We have taken this decision well before. So we decided to come here and experience life and interact in some level at some point in time. And some of us will connect for some time and then they go on their own, some of us will be connected for a longer period of time, so the time span of connection has no value here. We are connected. That has value.
Q: Meditation is more intense with many people.
A: Yes. Meditation is like a passport. It’s just used to be united. But more than meditation what is happening is the consciousness is getting connected. You can say meditation is a tool to bring everybody together, but more than meditation what is happening is the marriage of consciousness. This has more value. You can think of meditation as a boat to cross the river, but the consciousness is continuing. And mind can never understand this. The moment we start analysing, we fail. But soul understands. And the connection is from the soul level. That is why we will not leave. We are connected, not only from this life, but we will continue in that mode. We can say that the thread continues. Whatever happens id doesn’t matter but we are united in consciousness.
Q: This is intellectual trap.
A: Yes, the moment we analyze we fail to understand. This is why people get confused. I sometimes get messages which are crazy and I don’t even reply, I say, take your time talk to yourself. Get back to me once you have a proper question. I say, I will not wash your clothes. Wash yours.:)
Ego plays a major role. When people come to me and say, “Oh, I’ve done this course, I’ve done that course…” I say, “Please continue.” :) Because what will I do? What we have done in life has no value apart from what we are. The more courses we do and ego gets more and more pampered and stronger, it’s very difficult to cross over. It is like a gate is small and the person is very fat. Intellectually you can also get very, very fat :) Today, a person, I think he is from Netherlands, sent a message to me saying, “Mohanji, I follow you and so many changes have happened. But that final uncaging, that lion is ready to go out of the cage but can not break the cage. How?” I said, “The only blockage you have, the cage, is your mind. Lion is ready to leave any day. But what keeps the lion inside the cage is the mind. So the more solid the cage is, the more difficult it is to break. We need to dilute ourselves, and to empty ourselves so that the cage itself falls down.” I said it symbolically, but this is the point.
Q: Only observing the thoughts and not paying attention to them, not energising it, is the trick, not dealing with mind at all?
A: Correct. Just less energising the mind will decay the cage. And also one more thing we must understand clearly. Mind has a tendency to project a situation which may not be real. E.g. a man said, “I am deeply connected to you, I look at your picture 24 hours a day.” But it need not be. It is mind confusing you. It’s not your connecting or not connecting to the picture. It’s that are you feeling me? Are you being me? This is the point. I receive a lot of emails people ask me, “I’m deeply connected to you, are you feeling me?” I say, “Don’t worry whether I am feeling you, but are you feeling me?” ha, ha. I’ll give you one example. There is one medical doctor in Dubai. She connects to me and gives answers to people. She has no idea how the answers come. She has never read anything, but she does that. In 2004 or 2005 when I met her I said, “One day, you will be representing me.” I told her at that time. She is married and has children. At that time she didn’t know it but later on, she started talking thing which she was surprised, “How do i know this?” But answers are real. Because people who receive the answer say, thank you, I’ve got the answer, or , the problem is solved. She used to call me saying, “Mohanji this is working wonderfully! How is it happening?” I said, “Stop calling me now. Feel me now. Do not talk to me on the phone or use anything. Connect to me.” Because then you have to take the next step. Once this is happening, go to the next step saying that 100% conviction we are connected and act on it and feel it and move it. Then eventually, we are connected 100%, full time, you are operating in that plane. So consciousness is one. How we use it is the most important thing. The moment you feel Mohanji is separate from me, or the consciousness is separate, the wall is the mind. And mind projects you are very well connected to me because there is a picture on the wall. That is nothing. Many times it’s like that.
Consciousness is important at this time because most of us are beating around the bush. We are practising something, it doesn’t matter what you practise, which guru you follow is also ok, which god you connect is fine, but are you connecting to the consciousness? This is the most important point here.
One example of the connection is a three-year-old boy. We came back from Belgrade at night, that night Biba was not there, they forgot to put the blanket on the bad so I was feeling cold. He woke up his mother in New Delhi and said, “Mohanji is feeling cold” and took my picture and put it under the blanket. If you ask him now what I’m doing he will say. Deeply connected to the consciousness. Why I’m giving this example is, this is a state you can achieve. We should be so deeply engraved in consciousness, when you should not feel difference from me.
Another aspect is, the moment you start evolving in consciousness, such people will get attracted to you. There two ways they come. Sometimes a person of negative nature will come to you, for taking the energy, like they want help. So it’s up to you how much time you want to spend with them. This is for sure. Second is that likewise people will come to you. The people who are evolving will come and hold your hand. This will become a beautiful family. I always tell people, if there is a problem in relationship, evolve yourself and then the relationship that comes to you will stay. Because they are not judgmental. Otherwise usual relationships are based on expectation, and judgement. You keep judging a person based on whatever awareness you have, and you expect. So whenever a relationship is based on expectation, and it moves in a kind of judgmental way, “If you do this I like you, if you don’t do this I don’t,” there will be conflicts all the time. But the moment the consciousness grows, the relationship shifts to purpose, “We are together because there is a higher purpose to achieve.” This is beautiful. Then, there is no conflict because there is no room for conflict. There is nothing to fight for. This is to be understood clearly. Whenever there is a blockage in relationship, evolve and catch the higher. Then the whole thing comes up. Only such people will meet you. The rest will leave you because you are useless to those people.
It is extremely important to cultivate awareness. Normally we do not see the consciousness and say, “This man looks good, I want him.” That’s nothing. Because sometimes he is carrying so much of baggage, a man or a woman, it doesn’t matter, we fall for the looks, senses take you to the looks and then we suffer. It is not easy. How do you know? It is important that you raise yourself so that you attract that kind of personality into your life. This is also not only marriage, I’m talking about any relationships in life.
Q: Don’t look for a perfect person, be a perfect person.
A: Yes, be the perfect person, don’t need to look anywhere. That comes to you. Then only it stays. Otherwise every relationship is based on expectation and emotion. And respect happens with the higher consciousness. Respect comes to you. Respect has to be earned. You can probably get a state, e.g. somebody tells you, “You are the president of this place.” But the stature has to happen through maturity, through approach, through the higher awareness. Then only it stays. Otherwise you can see many people attaining a position and falling down.
One person asked me, “How can we keep you here longer?” I said, “I never leave this place. If you are able to see, you will see.” Physically, it’s very difficult, because there is only one body. But otherwise I’m here.
Q: You are everywhere.
Transcribed by Biljana Vozarevic