Breathe Vertically

Satsang with Mohanji in Belgrade, 16th May, 2015

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How do we relate in this world? This is a million dollar question. Through peace. Be peaceful inside.

Q: I’ve been to various meditations and tried a few methods. I always had a goal to achieve, something to solve with these, but none of them worked. I was told that I did not believe in these methods enough. Could you tell me whether I believe in them or not? (laughter)
A: The problem is neither with you, nor the meditation. The problem is with the time. This time is very fast. For many techniques there is not enough time for them to sink in and work on us. There has been frequency deterioration over a period of time. The time is restless. Just imagine a person who is relatively restless, for example, somebody is sick, and in hospital, and you want to tell him about a new proposal. Do you think he will understand? His mind is occupied with the family member in hospital. Most people in today’s world are restless, irrespective of countries, or where they are from, even if it is a city or a village. The restlessness is brought on by the time because the time is very, very fast. Before we realise it, it’s morning, it’s already evening. So we are constantly in movement mode. In that mode, no meditation can actually work in an effective way. In such a situation, organised meditation doesn’t work. The best method is to just decide that you will not say any word without your mind being present. No action will be taken by you without your mind being present. If you make that particular decision, you will switch into the level of meditation where you are observing yourself, watching yourself, and going through your emotions, going through your daily life. Once you catch that thread, you are always in meditation. It may not be an organised meditation, but you are always in the mood of meditation. This is very easy to say. Almost all of us use the front side of the brain, the frontal lobe. That is why we are prone to anxiety, fears, and have various types of phobias. It is all because we are frontal lobe oriented. But if we start shifting to the middle and the back, there is no anxiety, there is no confusion. We will be balanced. Each meditation, each technique, each guru, master or each path, each religion, is supposed to bring this equanimity into us. When you say you cannot sit and meditate, it means the frontal lobe is very active, which is normal. All our education systems are pushing us to be intellectually correct, or intellectually aware, but we never think about how we can remain balanced amongst all possible situations in a life time.
So first, you should not do any activity without your mind being present. Your mind is with the activity. When you have your food, let the mind be with the food, so that you experience the food 100%. When you play with your child, be in that activity. So that you have an experience as well as fulfillment all the time. This is one aspect.
Likewise, whatever you say, ensure that the mind is available so that there are no excess words, there is no unconscious talk, unconscious discussion, or even argument or fight. Nothing will happen, just concentrate on the words with mind available.
Third level is thoughts. You cannot control thoughts. They are happening. After thoughts happen, we realise we had that thought. This is the first level of perpetual meditation.

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Two techniques to counter the speed of time

1. As I said, we are frontal lobe oriented. How do we connect to the back side? It’s not easy. For that you need to shift your level of awareness for at least some time every day. This can be a meditation. While you are sitting and watching a programme, feel the spine for a few minutes. Just be aware that you have a spine. No need to do any meditation, feel the spine. When you sit in the car and the car is at the traffic light and you see the sign 50 seconds to 40 seconds etc. It counts down. At that time during these seconds, feel the spine. Like that, feel the spine many times a day. Just realise you have a spine. After some time, you will tend to move to the spine faster, and in a few months, depending on how fast you can connect, you whole perception changes. From horizontal, it will become vertical. Your awareness shifts. Your understanding level changes. It is like that. If I am sitting here, I can see this much. If I stand up, my view is different. I can see from above. My awareness changes to a different dimension, just by being aware of the spine.

2. Also, when you close your eyes and feel your spine, you can automatically see that your awareness has shifted to the third eye. So if you concentrate on the third eye directly, this is the junction where 72,000 meridians are connected. Energy goes to that and reaches the 72,000 locations of our system. At the same time, there is always the possibility that when we concentrate and meditate on the third eye, it can overenergise and even lead to paralysis. This has happened even to saints in the Himalayas. They concentrated on the third eye for too long, and then they couldn’t move because their whole system was paralysed. However if you try concentrating on your spine instead, there will be no overenergisation. What is needed in the third eye, will go there, the rest will be located in the spine.
So this is not your problem, this is a problem with time. I’ve given you two techniques to counter the speed of time. Because you have to go with time and be with yourself. That’s the only way we can survive this time.

Furthermore, we must never feel that there is some deficiency in us. This is actually mind’s projection. Deficiencies are always mind’s projection. Mind says you can’t do it. That’s not true. We can definitely do it, but the concepts which we’ve fed into our mind, create an impression that we can’t do it. So there is some problem with us. That has to be completely wiped away. I’m fine just like anybody else. Then each step you take, see if you can remove the mental block. We may not have it, we collect it from the society, also people tell us that you may not be able to do it. Like in the programme in Dubai, somebody said, ’’Mohanji, you can do it, but I am not like you.“ I said that’s nonsense. ’’I have tried and I had conviction.“ That’s the only thing. In the early 2000s when I was practising on my own, I used to wake up at 3am every day, I couldn’t sleep beyond it. I used to be a corporate head of country, so we sometimes had late parties but again, I woke up at 3am and from 3-8am I completely detached myself from the world and meditated. I sometimes chanted, then I meditated, connected to the spine and dissolved. So five hours was dedicated to myself whatever was happening in the world. This helped. After all these years it has given the awareness which I am sharing with people. It is always a discipline and conviction. Even if nothing happens, it’s ok. In everybody’s stage of evolution in spirituality, the first is the experience. We experienced meditation, something is happening, we are very happy. After some time, stagnation. The same thing cannot give the same result. So you stagnate. Most people stop there. Then they go to another programme. There is a sensation for a few days. Then again stagnation. So people do not cross over to higher levels. This is why people do not achieve something.
Somebody asked Buddha,“How can we be like you?“ Buddha said,“That is very simple. Do the penance like I did. Do tapas. He said,“I cannot do that. Because you have done extreme penance to reach that stage.“ Then Buddha said,“Then serve the people, serve the poor, do something for the world.“ If that is also difficult, third is merge your consciousness to mine. Look at me, connect to me, whenever your mind is with me, you are with me. If your body is with me, you may not necessarily be with me because if your mind is outside, you are outside. If you want to be with me, let your mind be with me. Wherever you are, no problem. So you will start moving into my consciousness and you will achieve what I achieved. “

Satsang with Mohanji in Belgrade 16 May 2015

Almost all of us use the front side of the brain, the frontal lobe. That is why we are prone to anxiety, fears, and have various types of phobias. It is all because we are frontal lobe oriented. But if we start shifting to the middle and the back, there is no anxiety, there is no confusion. We will be balanced.

Q: On our path of seeking, how to know whether some challenge is something which keeps us on our path, or if it is an old energy, something which distracts us? How to know that by our choice in the course of action we stay on the right path?
A: It is very simple, how do you know you are growing? It is by how much peace you have inside, whatever happens outside. This is the best yardstick you can use.
How do we shed energies which we don’t want? You have to actually stop talking about it, thinking about it. There are three levels where we attract. First is emotion, that we think about it. We keep emotion. Second is the intellect, we analyse it,“Oh, why did this happen? Why did this man come into my life? Why did this event happen? Why this situation?“ All these things are actually more or less hooking you to the situation. Third is we sometimes act on it. We become very aggressive, we do something which hurts us, then it hurts other people.
Sometimes similar people keep coming back to our life over time. Why does that happen? It is always because a set emotion is at play. It’s like a CD. It plays again and again. So we attract that kind of people, we attract that kind of situation. We attract that kind of emotion for which we need to observe and let go. You can go through it but at the same time, do not connect to it. It’s practice. You need to practise it. There is no shortcut towards it. Of course, now we have regression therapy and all the different things where you can move into your subconscious and take something out. That’s different. For normal life, acceptance of your current reality is extremely important. A very easy way to get out of this cycle is again through the spine. Spine helps a lot. We have no idea how changed we can be the moment we shift the operating level from the front to the back or the middle. Immediately so many things you consider as very important will go. Many people whom you felt were very important, too. Some of them might be taking your energy away all the time, yet you still keep them because you are used to them. All those things will drop off and you’ll be free from inside. The moment you are free from inside, the whole world is yours. Mind is a very good servant, but a very bad master. As a servant it is very good because when you eat food, the mind is with the tongue, you feel the taste to experience the food. When you listen to music, mind is with the ears, you actually enjoy the music. Whatever you do, whatever you feel, whatever you experience, mind has a role to play. At the same time if mind is controlling you, then it’s a different story. It creates havoc. So mind is a good servant but a bad master.

Q: I feel that I have became too peaceful, that I have lost all emotion, if something happens, I am not bothered at all. I find it difficult to communicate with people. Is that normal or not?
A: This is what you have been looking for, what you have been asking Baba all the time. Now you want to go back to the restlessness!? (Laughter)

Q: I feel a big attachment to the suffering of others. I can deal with my own suffering very well. Ok, it is karma, no problem. But injustice and the suffering of others, especially animals disturbs me a lot emotionally and I don’t know what I can do. All seems to be insufficient. What should I do to transform that to be better?
A: This is again degeneracy of time. In the Indian system, we have 1.7 billion years of the Golden age, Sathya yuga. There is no ritual, no chanting, nothing, all people existing at that time are of master’s stature like Sai Baba. Everybody is like that, godly. There is no evil, injustice, negativity.
Then comes Treta yuga, Lord Rama’s time. This is approximately 1.4 million years. That is the time when the good and the evil started working on this planet. This is according to the scriptures. During the Treta time, good and evil are at different places, not in the same location. But they have a conflict.
Then comes Lord Krishna’s time, 800,000 years of Dwapara yuga. Good and evil were in the same family.
Now, 4000 years of Kali yuga, the time we are in, good and evil are in the same person. Sometimes one is good, sometimes one is bad. There is a huge conflict inside an individual.
So when you look at the whole life, the environment creates a lot of effect. Sometimes the environment makes people violent. Most criminals are not born criminals. They are situational criminals. They did something because of the pressure of time, then they went to jail. It’s happening like that.
In this time the whole machine is run by emotions. Look at the world outside. People are extremely emotional, full of anger, hatred, all sorts of things. We don’t talk about love much and even if we do, people are suspicious,“Why does this man love me?“ If you say,“unconditional love“ this is absolute nonsense. We only love for a reason. If there is money in your pocket, then love is ok. This kind of situation is the lowest frequency. In such low frequency, destruction, death, pain, trauma, all these things are possible. And the collective consciousness of the people is low. Look at the general consciousness of the generation from a world perspective. What are 7 billion people thinking about? Not many people are thinking about helping other people, maybe 10%. And they help other people only as a ritual. Most of the other people are in chaos, struggling, running, they want to make money. For example, I was talking to a group of students in New York . They all study various courses. I asked them,“Why have you taken this subject?“
80% of the students said,“This gives us a lot of money.“ That’s the wrong reason for taking up the subject. But today the world is operating on greed i.e. making money, competition. So what you see outside as injustice is because of this. Look at our modern medicines. Most of the medicines that we use today are tried on animals. A lot of animals have died so that we survive today. We have always had a beautiful natural system called Ayurveda. My mother’s family has always been traditionally ayurvedic. My mother’s uncle was one of the most respected ayurvedic practitioners of his time. Before he passed away I asked him about violence in the treatment. He answered,“Ayurveda never believes that this is for humans. All beings are the same before Ayurveda. The whole world belongs to everybody, every species. Ayurveda has never believed that this was created for human beings. For example, we had a science for elephants. I have seen people who could communicate with elephants, wild elephants who have killed people. I have seen one man talking to them and the elephants went to one side. We have always had all these sciences, but because of greed we destroyed most of it. And this was created by saints over years, not by injecting it into animals, not by killing species. It has been derived from nature. Nature gave it to them.
If you look at the whole of nature, god has given us three energy sources with which we can live peacefully and which will not pollute the world: sun energy (solar energy), wind energy, water energy. All these things cannot pollute the world, but what do we mostly use today? Fuel from the underground which pollutes the environment. It’s like guts are being spilled out. All the toxins, all the organs inside are outside. The world has become like that. Why has it happened? It’s the time. It’s the frequency of the time. When we are in the lowest frequency, greed is the operating level. That is creating injustice.

So how do we relate in this world? This is a million dollar question. Through peace. Be peaceful inside. Ok, the environment is like this, people are like this, systems are creating people like this, so how should we make a difference? By being peaceful. By being calm. So people come to you and ask,“How can you be peaceful in this situation?“ That’s the only way and that’s the best way. Lead by example. Do not be angry with yourself. This is not good because it gives you illness. Do not be angry with the world outside. That is also not good enough. But sometimes you can express anger just to convey a message. Just for intensity. It means, like a snake you can hiss, but you should not bite. So the other person knows you can be dangerous and will go away. If you are angry with yourself, you will surely have an illness later. So it’s not good to be angry with yourself, accept yourself.“I’m not happy with the situation, but let me be.“ Second is don’t be angry with society. Instead, replace the anger with love. Your expression should be love instead of fighting and shouting. Say,“Come here, I love you. I’m with you.“ If you convey this message, it will be very soothing for the other person.“You are not alone. I love you.“ These are very strong messages. And you should mean it, it is not just the words. If that is the level of operating, a lot of peace will happen outside of you and inside of you. And the richness from inside is permanent. If you make a lot of money there is no guarantee it will stay with you, but if you are rich inside, you carry it always. So whenever you get angry, think about me (laughter).

Q: We are in a time which is speeding up and since 21st Dec 2012, when the Sun, Earth and planets were in alignment. Since then we have been exposed to huge electromagnetic waves from the cosmos, from the core of the Earth, aiming to change us into 3rd, 4th, 5th dimensions. As these energies are strong, how to align ourselves with them? Probably through love and peace, but can you tell us more about it?

A: There is nothing for us to do with this because we cannot do anything other than what we are conditioned for now, but the energies have definitely shifted and are shifting. It is a process. It is happening. The main shift is from the fourth root to the fifth root. The fourth is the emotional root, the fifth is the intellectual root. The fifth root is very close to the soul root, the consciousness. This shift itself can destroy one third of the total beings of this world because this has the potential to wipe away one third of the total beings of the Earth, not just the population.

The major shift is in the pattern of the breath. From horizontal to vertical. We will try a small technique:

Close your eyes, keep your spine erect, I’ll guide you.

No movement for a few minutes. Go to the root of your spine. Breathe consciously ujay. When it reaches the top of the head, hold it. Then release it all the way down. Breathe in, hold, breathe out, hold. Breathe in, hold 10 seconds, breathe out, hold 10 seconds. Repeat three more times.

Meditation group in Belgrade, Serbia - Satsang with Mohanji

Simple breath, but how it made the mind empty! This is just one of the techniques, where if you empty your mind, you are ready to receive higher energy. All you have to do is empty the mind. Trash, trash, trash.

So your question was how to adapt and be eligible for higher energy, the answer is emptiness. (laughter)

Q: I am here with my boyfriend and you came into our lives last year and really, look, my tears have started flowing, really, my boyfriend has changed sooo much, he has found his peace and our life has moved into a completely different, more beautiful direction. Now, in our everyday conversation, his attitude is, “I don’t want to hear any negative news, don’t tell me those things“. If I want to tell him about some film he doesn’t want to watch it, it affects his peace. If there is some news about someone’s tragedy, he doesn’t want to listen to it, in order not to disturb his peace. I think one has to hear about the tragedy of other people, to see what is happening. What do you think about it?

A: Should I agree or disagree? (Laughter)
The source of everything is an impression. When I say,“monkey“, suddenly you have a picture of a monkey, an image and characteristics of a monkey in your mind. Where does it come from? This is already in the system. Impression is the root cause of all our concepts, all our expressions, all our imaginations, everything is based on impression. Impression is the data that we collect from the world outside using the body, the mind and the intellect.
Running away from the situation is not a good idea, because actually that is called escapism. At the same time, getting involved without equipment, without proper preparation cannot help you. Like if you are in a war without a weapon, it means you will be killed. Collecting a lot of impressions from the news, television and people is not a good idea because it adds to contamination. The less impressions, the less concepts. The less concepts, the freer we are. We are having inner freedom. But let’s say income tax law changed in this place. Because I did not see the news I did not know, so I didn’t pay the tax. What will happen? You cannot say I believe in Mohanji and God, so I will not pay a tax. There is a saying in Islam, in Muslim,“Believe in Alah, but tie your camel.“ (Laughter) So it is important to know what is going on around you so that you can be prepared. At the same time if you keep the impressions and keep creating concepts, it will bind you. So you need to strike a balance between these two. Be aware but at the same time do not be involved.
Last week, a man told me,“Mohanji, you do not know how much I love you. I cannot control the love. I’ll be ready to kill somebody who is against you!“ (laughter in audience) This is very dangerous you know. (laughter) I said to him,“Now if people are not very nice, it is not good to be passive, don’t just lie down and get the beating. But at the same time don’t kill. Both extremes are bad.“ Somewhere in the middle, be kind, yet at the same time don’t take nonsense.

So I think I’ve told you the answer. Be aware but don’t be emotional about it, so that emotions are not stored inside. That will not create concepts. The more concepts you have, the more bound you are. The more paralysed you are.

Q: We know we should let things go, shed the clutter, could you give me advice on how to do get rid of accumulated anger? I have a lot of it in me as a consequence of various suppressions. Besides hitting and kicking a pillow or a bag, how to cleanse this as even my children tell me I ’ve forgotten how to laugh.

A: This is the situation for everybody. It is not only your accumulated anger. It is inherited, too. We sometimes inherited it from the family. Let us not think of ourselves only as individuals. We are an individual for the outside world, but we have a baggage from the family as well. We have our own baggage which we collected in this life, but we also have baggage from the ancestor. Understand one thing. The heavier the baggage, the more expensive is the travelling. Especially if it is other people’s. The best way to counter it is to help people whom you do not know. Just help people whom you do not know without any reason.mohanjis-50th-birthday-celebration-at-mohanji-ka-aangan-jammu-1 Many people think that to help other people you need a lot of money. This is absolutely not true. It’s not about the money. It’s your attitude that makes a difference in the world. I’ll give you one example. Somebody similar to the question you asked. This is in the North of India. One person who is very rich (very rich in the sense she is fine with her money, she doesn’t need to work) was full of anger. She loves me a lot but she doesn’t love anybody else. I told her,“Take care of my children.“ We have a school center for the children of Islam, like the Gipsies, who are three to fifteen years old. We have 130 children. Many of them are abused. If people knew they came to this place for education, they would beat them up.“ Sometimes a five-year-old girl will be looking after a three-year-old sister. That kind of situation. Very very bad. So I told this woman,“You should take care of this place.“ When she started going and experiencing the pain of small children, she changed completely. She can’t get angry. Because she sees so much of this and she is involved. Suddenly the whole thing changed. Then in 2013, we had a festival called Diwali, she asked the children,“What gift do you want for Diwali?“ They said,“We want Mohanji.“ (laughter) They called me and said,“They want to see you.“ So I went there. It was such a beautiful experience, the love they were sharing and they had only seen me in the picture. They hardly see me. I don’t go there all the time. But with the picture they have developed so much love. Then I asked this person,“How do you feel now?“ She said,“Mohanji you changed my life.“ I said,“I did nothing. You changed it by changing your attitude.“

Q: How to overcome my fear of flying?
A: For fear of flying, I think you have to go for regression. You have to go to the root where it started, and take it out.

Q: How to know which is our true vocation in life?
A: What is good for you is what expands you, what makes you rich inside. Any job you do which is creative in nature, which makes your heart expand, is good for you. When you get up in the morning and you feel,“I am happy, it’s morning! I must go to work.“ That means you love the job. That expands you. That is good for you. But if you feel,“Oh my god it’s morning I have to go to work.“ (laughter) This is not good for you. It’s very simple. What makes you happy, what makes you settled is good for you, whatever you are pushing yourself to do is not.
Remember just one thing. When you are natural, you are powerful. When you are unnatural, you are very weak. If you remember this, you will understand everything else in life.

Q: My parents are very ill, especially my mother, how to help them?
A: Every situation has a root, it’s not only this one day. So first of all, acceptance. This is the situation. Second, give courage, not tears. You have lived your life, because of you a lot of people are happy. Say the good things. Say the best things. Do you know a story of two people in one room?

A STORY about two hospitalised men

There were two sick people in one room in a hospital. One guy was on one side, the other one was next to the window. So the first one could not see what was outside. They were both bedridden. He asked what was outside. The guy next to the window was giving stories of beautiful things, he was telling all the good things. Later on he died and the other guy went there and there was only a wall! All this time the guy who died had entertained the other guy. This way we can make somebody’s life better. But if we sit and cry, we pull ourselves and other people down. Sympathy and self-pity are two things which are like poison. Sympathy and self-pity, just like poison, paralyse you and other people.

Q: How did you know that a huge shift in consciousness happened to you and that you reached the ultimate?
A: Do you want to know the real truth? I still don’t know. I never asked. I never checked. I have never asked if I have arrived or if I have been evolving.
There are various states of the mind. At the beginning we have inquisitiveness to know why this is happening, where I am standing, all these questions keep coming in the mind. Mind is overactive because we are between activity and result. Activity-result, activity-result. Mind asks all the questions,“Where have you reached? Are you enlightened?“ All these questions come. In Sanskrit this is called savitarka samadhi. When you need an answer for all your questions, it is savitarka samadhi. Then it shifts into nirvitarka samadhi where whatever happens, you don’t have any questions. You are absolutely peaceful. You have no questions. Then it shifts even further to a level where whether a thing happens or not, whether a situation is there or not, whether people are coming to see you or not, nothing matters. So at each level, we are in a different mode and we have stopped looking where we have reached. All this will go. Mind becomes absolutely empty.

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Changing the Frequency Changes Your Life

Skype satsang with Mohanji in the USA, on 10th May, 2015, part 1

Mohanji quote - Observe yourself, you will knowQ: If certain experiences or patterns keep repeating, is it because I still have a karmic account or am I handling it without awareness?
M: This is actually both.
Firstly, the pattern is normally inbuilt in our constitution. When we take birth and when we go through time, each time we are actually manifesting the inherent pattern over and over again. To cut that off, you need to detach from all the activity. For example, if we are constantly having failures in our activity, we have to look at what sort of emotion we are using for each activity and then consciously one by one, we have to detach and say, ok, let this happen. Second option is, in the spiritual path, surrender the fruits of action, we are not bothering and we are surrendering the fruits of action and we just act as surrender. That is why we call work as worship. Or relationship is worship. Everything becomes worship, then it gets nullified, it gets diluted. Whenever there is ownership, the pattern stays. Whenever there is no ownership, the pattern gets diluted. This is one part.
Secondly, the reason this is happening is because first of all we do not know that we have a pattern. We blame other people. We sometimes just get overwhelmed with this repetition which means we just move on with life, without thinking, without a conscious way, so that it never leaves you.
Third thing is if there is even one relationship that has got a karmic link. Every relationship has a karmic link. Otherwise two people cannot meet. When the karmic link is very clear, we need to understand that each moment, each individual is valid for a particular experience only at that point in time. People come and go, situations change, but then our existence on earth purely depends on what we are or what we are manifesting. This is the key aspect we must understand. Also every pattern has a root cause. First of all, the root is prarabda, the thing which you brought forward. Then the activities of this life reinforce it. It brings us into the same pattern. We should understand both these things. For every activity, ok this is happening, let me handle it and then just move on, so that you always keep the inside clean and completely uncontaminated. Then patterns will dissolve.

Q: Is it true that one cannot attain self-realisation without a living guru?
It’s almost like, ”Can you attain warmth without the help of fire?” It’s almost like that. A living guru who has already crossed over can be a good guide. Likewise a person who is looking for enlightenment and walking towards the path may not even know which way to go. A living guru’s presence has always been glorified by almost all the masters and the scriptures. To illustrate this, I think I have told you a story about Narada.

A STORY about Narada

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Narada asked Mahavishnu why he was not achieving the highest point. He is a great bhakta, he is a great devotee and he loves Mahavishnu, he chants all the time, but he is not able to touch that spot, the spot where he can taste the honey, the ultimate realisation. Mahavishnu said, ”Because you don’t have a guru, you don’t have a guide.” Then he asked, “Then give me a guide.” So he said, “Walk along the banks of the Ganga early in the morning and the first one whom you see is your guru.” He walked and walked and there was none. Finally he saw a boatman. When he saw the boatman, he was disappointed, “How can a boatman teach realisation? There is no guru.” He went back to Mahavishnu who was very angry. He said, “You are stupid! I told you that you should accept the first person whom you see on the path as your guru. It doesn’t matter who it is! It could be an enlightened master, it could be a boatman, it could be anybody. But an instruction from an avatar, an instruction from a god, should be followed to perfection.” So he was cursed to one thousand lifetimes spent on the Earth. Narada was worried, he went to his father Brahma and told him the story. Brahma said, “Ok, no problem, but everybody has a destiny. Take a lot of paper to Mahavishnu and ask him to write the whole destiny, (like nadi astrologers do. They write about your future lives and past lives), write down the whole history, the whole pattern of what will happen to you in these thousand life times. He gave a lot of paper to Mahavishnu and gave it to him. Basically it was an astrological chart or the destiny chart for a thousand lives. He brought it to Brahma and Brahma said, “Ok, spread it on the ground, and roll over it.” So he spread it on the ground and rolled over it. Then he finished the thousand life times in this rolling. That is why people do the production of rolling in some temples. They roll so that they are actually unwinding the karmic baggage. Then they went back to Mahavishnu. Mahavishnu said, “Do the same, go to the banks of the Ganga and walk.” So he saw the same boatman and when he went closer to the boatman he bowed down and requested to take him as his disciple. Then the boatman turned out to be the Lord Shiva!

The point is that guru is there so that disciples know where they are going. Otherwise they think they are on the right track and what they’re doing is entertaining the mind! What we call practice, is not always practice, it is basically entertaining the mind. Once this is understood, then it’s easier. Somebody who can see from above knows that this is exactly where we are going. It’s much easier. That is why guru is important.

Q: We know that with the present life we have to suffer the karmas and sins of past lives but, why must this be; because we do not remember our past lives.
M: As I said, most of the life times are repetitions. Each life is more or less a reflection of the past lives. First of all the constitution, the character, the mold, it’s the same. Only thing is that life is different. For example, we use the body for a particular period of time, to experience or fulfill a particular set of desires. Then that body is done and then we leave the body, and then we take another body, and again everything is probably a bit of upgrading. For example, you have a laptop and software. After a year or so you have refreshed the software. You upgraded it and it probably has more functions. Like that another software comes and gives you even more functions. Every time a year goes by, you have an upgraded, better computer. It’s almost like that. Each life time there is a bit of upgrading happening there. But the basic structure of the computer remains the same, the constitution, the character, everything remains the same, except the software is getting upgraded that is also what we call awareness and corresponding experiences as well. When you have an upgraded system, experience is different, too. When you have an old primitive system, experience is different. Each life time is like that. That is because we have chosen a particular constitution for a long duration of time. And that keeps on repeating. In order to cut this off, you need to be clearly aware.
Number one, be aware of the accumulation of desires. More and more desires are accumulated each day.
Number two, impressions. When we meet a person, when we go through a situation, when we interact with the world, even when we watch the news, the TV, we watch everything, we are constantly collecting impressions. Each impression has the potential to become an expression. So every expression has a thought or a word or karma behind it. This is the way we are accumulating. It is important to curtail the impressions in thoughts, words, and action. Also, through body, mind, and intellect i.e. three levels of consumption.

There are stages in samadhi. One of the stages of samadhi is called savitarka samadhi. In savitarka samadhi a person experiences a particular thing, but is not worried about the result of it or about the reason for it. If you are not worried about the reason for a particular happening, you already have a level of peace within. Ok, one thing is happening, a situation is happening, it’s fine. You are constantly in that mode, where you are fine, you are ok, so that struggle between why and why not will not be there, “Ok, this is happening, let me handle it.” The levels of peace determine your states of samadhi. Samadhi is a state. Earlier the questioning, doubting, controlling, all these things go and they say, ok, acceptance happens. Everything is fine. Then you go further into the state where whether a thing is there or not, ok. So levels of the samadhi change. As we evolve in the samadhi states, we also decrease the number of life times.

4_yugasUnderstand one more thing. I think we are going through the eighth era, time of Manu. Each time has four segments. One is the golden age, then the Treta yug, Dwapara yug, and the Kali yug. This is the cluster, 1.7 billion years of golden age, where only evolved souls with very, very high frequency can exist. The lower frequency cannot exist on earth. So there is no conflict at that time. Golden age is the time where very few people with very high frequency, operating with siddhis and all those kinds of stuff. Then comes the Treta yug, the time with Sri Rama, again evolved beings, but they have a life span of ten thousand years on average, lesser population, higher frequency. Then comes Dwapara yug. One thousand years is one’s life span, still lesser frequency, a set of entities much less than in Kali yug. Then we come to Kali yug which is only 48,000 years. In the time of Kali, it is a very, very dense and very gross existence and people are all in the mode of emotions, anger, hatred, all those kinds of stuff and that is the time when maximum souls can take birth. Just like if you call some people for satsang you can count the people coming on your fingers. But if you offer alcohol and meat, you will have hundreds more coming. It’s like that. During the time of Kali, there are many more births because in this low frequency time a lot of souls can take birth and also experience the terrestrial. Then it gets recycled again back to Sathya yuga. So we are in the transition now. Each time many of us have taken birth. So the souls who are operating in higher frequency you can very well understand that they have been existing in more than Kali yug. They have been existing in other times, too. Many high masters have continued through each era and they have taken different bodies but they have continued in that frequency and their need for continuing or their purpose of being in the body is just like a beacon of light. Just to show the people or guide the generations saying, “Look here, there is a frequency of this level which you can operate in. Why do you choose a lower one?” Basically they lead by example. There are various masters each time, each generation to show the light and they have probably existed in the era of higher frequency.

Serve the people, animals, birds, in your own way, so that your dimension changes. Your frequency changes.

Serve the people, animals, birds, in your own way, so that your dimension changes. Your frequency changes.

These four together is one Manu time. That continues each time and the eighth Manu time is now coming up. So each time the repetition happens. Each time maybe you and I will take a birth again. In the next Manvantara we will probably have the same conversation. If you remember in Russia they found a microchip which is millions of years old on the stone. It’s on the Internet, you can see that. Where does the microchip come from? They say that aliens deposited it. This is not true. It is not aliens. It is that we actually had a civilization equal to what we are now or more developed than we are now, in another Manvantara, too. Each time we have repeated life, repeated the patterns, everything, these incarnations, so it is important to understand that the lower frequency is a binding frequency and in the lower frequency you can take birth only during the time when it is inducive for you to be on Earth. For example, in the lower frequency you cannot take birth in Sathya yuga, Golden age. Because frequency itself is different, and only elevated beings can take birth then. That is why they say during the Sathya yuga only very few people are on Earth. And also good and evil do not exist together. Good and evil are in different planets, which means it’s a frequency i.e. good means operating in higher frequency. Only they can exist. But in lower frequency, many more can exist. This is to give you a broad picture.
Why you do not know this is because you are not changing the frequency. The moment you are within, you are connected within and you are growing in spirituality, you will definitely understand. It is not difficult to know what you did, what happened in the past, but even on a laymen’s level, if you understand yourself, if you observe yourself, then you will know that, “This is exactly my pattern that I have unconsciously been bound by.” And if you choose to change the pattern, life will change. That is why if we insist on seva activities, serve the people, serve the animals, birds, in your own way, so that your dimension changes. Your frequency changes. This is why all the masters, all the religions, talk about service. It’s very important to have karma yoga (selfless service) mixed in our life.

Q: Unconditional Love is unbinding but what about when I get mad at my roommate for not doing the dishes?
M: Ha, ha, ha, ha. Call it soulmate rather than roommate, then the problem is solved. Expectation is the problem there.
Q: Then I do the dishes myself.
M: It’s expectation. We expect certain things and when there are more expectations, there is less peace. When we have more expectations about somebody, we have less satisfaction. Instead, like in Gandhi’s principle, people come to Gandhi’s ashram and put their slippers all over. Gandhi personally went and put them in order. They did it a few times, then they were conscious and they started putting the things in order. Likewise, one person was telling that they went for a course, a teacher training programme or something, the teacher trainer was not on time and he is normally on time. He was 15-20 minutes late. When they went around checking why the person was late, the person was tidying up the beds. Because people were just leaving things in the room in a very untidy way, so the teacher first of all went around the room and made everybody’s bed, clothing, everything and then he came to the class. He didn’t say anything. There was no resentment, nothing. It happened for two days. The second day, they found out what was happening. The third day everybody got up, everybody tidied up their room, they cleaned everything themselves and went back to the class. So, leading by example has a lot of power, rather than preaching, shouting. Mahatma Gandhi used to do that when people came to his ashram, and made a mess, he always cleaned without asking anybody, telling anybody. Then people understood. This is the way it should be done and got ashamed. There is always positivity in doing what you think is the right thing and demonstrating, leading by example. There is a lot of power in it. So don’t be angry.

Q: Often in life we find people who are selfish and self-centred moving ahead, but those who are nice and kind do not.
M: I already answered that question. The time of Kali is gross. This is a very low-frequency time. So the success which we talk about is momentary, sometimes material success. This is the success we are talking about. Do we know how much peace of mind they have? Many people whom you see or feel successful cannot sleep well. They cannot eat well. They cannot eat most of the food. All these issues are there. So don’t look from a terrestrial point of view. See how they are within. If you understand the reality, probably the person who is according to terrestrial terms not so successful, may be very successful inside. Because they will be peaceful inside. They will be happy with what they have. Being satisfied at every moment is success. Don’t think if you have a better car, you are more successful.
There is a recent anecdote about a singer Yesudas. He had a programme in the UAE, and one guy, I don’t remember whether he is a sheik or somebody, was so enchanted with these songs and music, that he went up to the stage and handed over the keys of his Rolls Royce to him. He said, ”Take it.” He was so happy with his music that he gave him the Rolls Royce. Yesudas gave it back to him,” I wouldn’t be able even to change its tyre, if I take it to India. I don’t have the money for the expense of keeping a Rolls Royce.” Sometimes things can be a very big burden. So from an external point of view, “Oh, my god, he got a Rolls Royce!” The second point is that is he able to maintain it. Not all things that shine are the things which are going to give you satisfaction. We must be clear about it. And why the selfish people, because the frequency is suitable for them, not for the lighter beings. That is why I already answered that question. During the Kali the frequency is dense, gross, they are more accusing, complaining, cheating, stealing, all these things are possible now. It is not possible in Sathya yuga or in Treta yuga and it is a little bit possible in Dwapara yuga. But in Kali, everything is possible: destruction, etc. Have you seen what is happening in Iraq and Syria? Children burnt alive, women sold as sex slaves. We are living in the same world right? There are a lot of things going on, very tragic. An earthquake happened in Nepal, so many people died. We don’t even know how many died. So this is all part of the current frequency, the current level of operation. Time is deciding beings here. Time is favourable for dense beings to operate. That is why we see greed, anger, cheating, being judgmental, all sorts of things. And when you say, “Please don’t do that, be kind to people, birds, animals, it’s a small life”, people do not understand. They think you are probably an abnormal person. So that is the operation.

Mohanji quote - There is always positivity in

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What is a Guru?

An excerpt from Sediba retreat in South Africa in September 2013

Mohanji quote - If you  have taken one life, use it to become GodWhat is a guru?

Q: Please explain the concept of a guru. How can one’s or my, his or her spiritual growth and cleansing depend on someone that is a guru?

In the macro level

A: The primary concept of a guru is that guru is a principle. Guru is a tattwa. Guru means the remover of darkness, somebody who brings the light into understanding, the light of awareness, the light of logic into our ignorant path. One who brings knowledge, awareness and clarity to our life is a guru. In that context guru cannot be just human being. The sun brings light into our Milky Way. Sun brings light to all the planets, so the sun has a role of a guru. You have to consider the sun in the context of the guru principle too. Guru principle runs through every being of this universe. Everybody has a guru aspect in them. But I know this question is about the physical guru who talks. I will come to it later. First of all understand what guru is. Guru is a principle which can operate through any medium, any being or any situation. Guru needn’t even be a walking, talking being. It can even be an understanding which happens in your mind. It can be the tree, or the leaves, or the wind. Certain revelations happen when we see certain things. Like when an apple fell on Newton’s head. He thought about the theory of gravity, right? Some other people also had an apple fall on their head. They only had a bump. (laughter) This is the difference. If it leads to something which is more revealing and awakening, that has to be considered as a guru. In that case, the apple is a guru, right? That triggered a particular process of thought and that created a particular path of understanding, knowledge, science. Guru should be considered in that aspect, the macro level.

In the micro level

In the micro level, the guru that we see in normal life, we call a person a guru if he is knowledgeable, if he is able to help us travel the path of life, if he is able to guide us to higher understanding. But again, there is a fundamental non-understanding here. In today’s world there are various types, shapes and forms of people who teach or convey a message to people. I believe all these people are necessary, because they are helping somebody. All these people are catering to certain people, because not everybody can understand or appreciate one path. Like, if I only speak Latin or Italian, most of you will not understand what I am talking about. I need to speak a language with which I can convey the message. Like that, there are various mouths operating and required in today’s world to convey the right message to people.

The gurus and acharyas

Acharyas are teachers, they have acquired book knowledge, they have learned, externally they have acquired information and they are conveying this information to the world outside. They look like gurus, they also probably have a name of a guru, but understand they are only expounding book knowledge or knowledge which they have acquired over a period of time. This is different This is acquired information. Knowledge has come from the outside into inside, it is churned and it is transferred back. It’s a process. You take in information, churn it, make formats and present it back to society. These are acharyas, teachers.

Now there are gurus who have awakened the knowledge from within. That means knowledge is already available, past, present and future exists simultaneously in absolute time, so they are established in knowledge. When they are established in knowledge, and knowledge is awakened in them, and they are expounding that knowledge, these are gurus. These are the real ones, connected to the source and they tap into the source as per the requirement. This is the fundamental understanding every seeker should have. A guru who is already operating in the highest consciousness, who is operating from the source, can transform a person just by a glance because he is already in the silent mode, established in silence. If I have a torch in my hand, I can show you the light as well. If I am only showing you a picture of the torch and say,“This is how the torch looks,“ you will definitely have an idea of how the torch looks, but you will not have light. This is the difference. This is the fundamental understanding every seeker should have. That means information can be available, if you google or type certain words on the Internet, you will get the information, but what about experience? Experience changes you. Experience makes you. Experience is you. This is the one thing we must understand. You are the experience. If you want to grow spiritually, root in experience, not in words, not in theories, not in understanding. That is a problem with the kundalini experience or enlightenment experience as well. People talk a lot about their own experience and seekers think,“This is how it should be.“ It can never be the same because each one has a different constitution. Each person has a different metabolism, different configuration, so it will be different. This is the reason. I hope it is clear now what an acharya is, and what a guru is. A guru has an awakened knowledge from within, an acharya has an acquired knowledge from the outside. First, acharya does not have much walking space. He can only walk as much as the knowledge he collected and transformed into readable material that can be conveyed. Second, there is no guarantee that acharya has understood the subject well himself. If you have read something, assimilated it, digested it, you might have understood it based on your level of operation, your IQ and your level of understanding from which you are churning. That is why we see distortions in the performance of the scriptures. No guru will ever say,“Go over and kill somebody.“ No guru will ever want violence, but today if people are resorting to violence, what does that mean? It means wrong understanding of the right scriptures. This is all because of acharyas. Acharyas are teachers, they can also interpret the scripture saying,“This is also a way you can look at it.“ Then some people will buy it, some people will “subscribe“ to it. They will say,“No problem, this is also one method of looking at it.“ And they start operating in it. Once they start operating in that line, catastrophies happen and distraction happens. This is the difference between an acharya and a guru. A guru will never do that because he is connected to the source. He will only give you what you need. He will not give you his opinion, he will only give you the truth, because there is no opinion to talk about there. Truth is one and the same truth has been spoken through generations through time by various mouths. There is no way you can speak a different truth today. I can speak a different language today, that is because I live in this time, but I cannot speak a different truth today. Nor will further generations to come speak a different truth from what I am saying. Likewise even Krishna used to say,“Thus spake the masters.“ Lord Krishna was an avatar. An avatar used to say,“As spoken by the masters before me, I am speaking.“ That means he always regarded and had gratitude for the ones who came before him. That is the way you operate when you are absolutely established in absolute time or you are established in knowledge. Then there is no ego attached to it. It is just knowledge as per requirement. Like we breathe air as per the requirement of our body. Our inhalation, exhalation are not as per requirement of the mind. We breathe spontaneously because we have to breathe. That means we have taken as much air as we need. It’s not like greed,“Oh air is there, let me collect it and keep it.“ That doesn’t happen with breathing, that happens at non-understanding level. So book knowledge converted and interpreted can be distorted, distortion is possible.

First of all understand who you are following. If you want to follow a guru, follow a guru who is connected to the source. It helps you. If you follow a guru for understanding’s sake, e.g. you have been at college, universities and schools, and you gathered information which brought you to this level, have gratitude. They are all good. It’s not that they are not good. At the same time, they have limitations. You can cross over the limitation and they can also cross over the limitation, but that’s not our programme today, that’s not our call. This is individualistic.

Why should somebody follow a guru?

This is your choice. You have every right. Why should somebody follow a road sign? The same question. Why do you choose a road sign? Because you don’t know the way, right? If you knew the way, you would not even look at the road sign and the road sign would never be unhappy because of that. It will never say,“I wasted my time standing here.“ The true guru will do the same. He is available. You can choose to follow the guru’s guidance, or also not to follow the guidance. This is perfectly up to you, and no true guru is insecure about it, just like the road sign is not insecure about it. If a guru is insecure thinking,“Nobody is looking at me,“ that means he is at acharya level. He is worried, he is insecure, he has problems, just like if some people keep criticising another person. They are insecure and their insecurity is being expressed. Similarly, if you are a person who is established and you come only with eligibility, you will get anything. That is also there. You can choose the guru, but the guru has to choose you as well. This is both ways. Why should I choose a guru? You have every right not to choose a guru. The guru also has the same right to choose you or not to choose you. Understand this is not a supermarket where I pick up some materials. Actually speaking, knowledge is not the right of a student. It’s the gift of the guru. Why is it a gift of a guru? Because the students do not usually know what they want, but the guru knows how much a student can carry. I am talking about a true guru, not the acharya. Acharya will give you the books, telling you,“Learn all this, you will reach somewhere.“ So true gurus will always know what the disciple needs and will only deliver that. So you can choose a guru, and the guru also has the full right to choose you or not to choose you.

Mohanji quote - If you want to grow spiritually, root in experienceChoosing a path

Q: I come from a very, very protestant family. Now my experience is different. How do I marry the two ideas, the two concepts together?

A: All of us, right from our childhood, as we grow up, are fed with concepts more than with food. E.g. tradition, family, lineage… We say we come from this respected lineage which used to be rulers or landlords before, every family has something, so you should behave in certain ways, you should walk in certain ways, you should talk in certain ways… Right from our childhood we are fed with concepts.
As we progress, through religion, through the schools we attend, through society,even through get-togethers, programmes, the right and wrong is fed into us. That takes away our freedom of choice. Everybody or most people are like that. In many of the western countries, probably the condition is much larger. Like, you have walked the path for twenty, thirty years in one method, or one chosen path for a long time, and suddenly a new idea comes and you become fascinated by it and want to explore it and there is a guilt of leaving what you have already tread and excitement with something which is seemingly uncertain or interesting. Everybody has this conflict.
What happens is that we are also animals in a different way. We chose intelligence over might. Or we can say we chose predictable intelligence over the sixth sense. This is what happened to us. When we were in the forest, our sixth sense was very clear. This predictability also confined us to a certain pattern. This pattern created the comfort zone. Leaving the comfort zone is very difficult. That is why this question arises ’why should I follow a guru’… because these are alien concepts. Some people are following it in another region of the world, but how can that be adapted to a path where you have been brought up in a more or less programmed atmosphere, where you go to church, you go to the mosque, you have certain levels of worship on a methodical basis, sometimes the surrender is transactional, activities are transactional, and prayers are in a particular order. All these things will appear as conflicts in the path to come. At that point in time, the thread to hold onto is awareness,“Am I changing? In which direction?“ Not being a rebel saying,“I will destroy everything so that something can happen in the future.“ That is basically non-understanding as well. That’s ignorance. Because by destroying things, you cannot guarantee change within your life time. However by going through the process and if it is suitable, you can only consume some food which suits your body. If different food is given to you, you will not consume it. Like in certain areas of the world people eat dog, cat, or snake meat, all these things, which many people who are meat eaters will not consume. Why is it so? It doesn’t suit their constitution, or it doesn’t suit their understanding or interest. In the same way, you will accept only something which really suits you. It means awareness is important so that you should know what you are doing.
Why has it come to you? You should ask this question. Why has this particular method of prayer come to me? I’ve been following one path for a long time, but now it has come to me. This is question number one.
Number two,“Now that it has come to me, how is it relevant to me? Is it liberating me or is it binding me? Have I been bound by the path for so long and have I lost interest to explore or to see if I am doing the right thing? I am doing things mechanically, because my grandfather was doing it, my father was doing it, and I am doing it.“ This is the way most spiritual practices happen today – repetition because of lineage or tradition. However, at no point in time are we checking,“Is that relevant to me?“ The moment you sit down and think,“Is some activity relevant to me?“ If it is not relevant, if you have the guts and courage to drop it, at that point in time the shift happens. It’s not being a rebel. It’s being aware that,“I am doing the activity out of compulsion, out of repetition or out of fear, mostly out of fear of heaven and hell, or fear that somebody will not like it. Some of my family members will say that I am not in the right way.“ So we follow out of compulsion, but is that giving you any kind of elevation, any kind of pleasure or any kind of fulfillment? If the answer is no, no, no, it’s time you left it. It might be the best thing, or you might also have the soft leaving, which means you leave for some time, taste it and you go back again. But it is important to evolve.

Make an effort to spread the word of love. That is what you are.

Knowledge is not the right of a student. It’s the gift of the guru. Because the students do not usually know what they want, but the guru knows how much a student can carry.

I always say,“If you have taken one life, use that life to become God. One with God. Then it’s worth it.“ Otherwise we take life times in rotation and achieve nothing. We taste a lot of things which are available on earth at various levels of mind, body, intellect, then we die and then we come back.

Punarapi jananam punarapi maranam
Punarapi janani jathare shayanam

(Again birth, again death, again in the womb of a mother, it keeps on going)
That is exactly the point we are talking about. If you have one life, use that life to be fully aware. ”My job is to experience whatever I wanted to experience, express whatever I wanted to express, and then get out of the place, get out of the game.” If that clarity is there, there is no conflict. Otherwise the social conditioning, the concepts, keep binding you, they keep pressurising you, and they keep making you a slave. I am not against any religion. If you want to experience how to be a slave, you have to be a slave. That is your choice. But in the path of liberation it has no validity. This is the only equation I am saying. In the path of liberation you can never be a slave to anything including habits, including relationships, including dependency, including place, time, objects. Ramana Maharishi used to eat food from the shell of a coconut. Some of the devotees felt it was very bad that the master ate food from the shell of a coconut, so they brought a plate for him. He said,” So you want to teach me attachment to this plate now? With the shell of the coconut, all the shells look the same, this shell or another shell, it doesn’t make a difference, but with a plate you will start owning it, where is my plate?” It might seem very simple, but this is how the mind works. Mind always holds on to small things, but that is important for the mind. Mind will say, “This is my plate. Don’t you dare touch it!” Why you say that is because of ownership. It is part of mind’s job. Even in spirituality we have ownership of our god, guru, we have ownership of all these and it binds you. At the same time if you do not have ownership, if you just do serving, it’s a beautiful scenario. Especially when the guru leaves, why are disciples affected? Ownership of the image. You like the image. You get connected to the image. But not a moment in time does the disciple feel guru is not the image. It’s a principle which is working through this body. He has gone, very good, ha, ha, but this is the point.

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See the Truth Beyond the Mind

An excerpt from Sediba Mountain Retreat in South Africa in September 2013

Transcending the Earth

Mohanji quote - Nobody can own the EarthQ: How to transcend the Earth?

A: Earth is definitely a beautiful location and we must be grateful to the Earth and all the beings of the Earth, because the gratification you are getting from the Earth, you are not getting from elsewhere. That is why we are here today and are walking this Earth. So we must be grateful. Understand that nobody can own the Earth. If you are on Earth, you have to pay the rent, and the rent is service. If you are using this realm, just like you are using this space now, you have to pay the rent. They are not going to allow us to sit here and leave without paying the money. Likewise the Earth will not release you until you settle the bills. And the bills are selfless service. That is why we are talking about various methods of helping people. The more you serve people, the more liberated you become. The Earth will bless you, ”My son, you walked this Earth, I am happy, you have served my people and the other beings and I bless you. You can go.” Then you will not come back. In that mode it’s fine. But through the senses, we become fascinated with the Earth, this is also fine. But what is the use of being earth-bound? Because we are moving in the duality mode. We need awareness to know, ”I am in this place, what is the best I can do? What else can I do?” There are two things. One is do your best, and the other, a constant quest, ”What else can I do?” Both are liberating. If you constantly keep looking in this way, ”Ok, I have done this, what else can I do?” you expand that mode again. Then you finally reach a level where you are actually in perpetual action mode for a purpose, a purpose-bound action, and then, “I am delivering at every point in time. And I am moving on.” Connection with the Earth is also fulfilled, this is a debt to the mother for nurturing us. That is fulfilled and you are liberated. If you want to come back, you will need to take a body and come back to the same Earth. This is what you will do. Those people who fall too much in love with Earth, definitely do come back and work on Earth. Body has a duration. This is your choice. You can definitely come back. Keep working on the same area. This is up to the individual.

Understand from which level the mind operates

Q: Why am I so rebellious in doing things that are good for me, which involve loving myself, eating right, doing work on time, exercising. It seems when I’m not rebelling, I am impatient because I do not grow and change as quickly as I understand. I understand quickly, but I manage slowly to be able to practice or create a healthier habit. Can spirit help me? Is there a technique to improve my ability to take care of myself?
A: Rebellion is in the mind. When you are rebellious it means the mind is portraying that aspect of you. Where is the rebellion coming from? Which aspect of mind? The mind that does not want to work, or the inertia associated with the mind. If you know that this is a consistent pattern, at that time we have to detach from that faculty which creates that pattern, especially the aspect of mind which creates rebellion. Move backwards and watch it, “Ok, you are creating this rebellion, this aversion towards exercising, aversion towards doing the thing at the right time, and I am not that. I am beyond it.“ It is always true that you are beyond it, but at the same time, you are helpless because you are in control of the mind. Mind always creates patterns. Mind loves to have repetition. Mind loves to have patterns. Mind is like that. Mind does not like whatever is not repetitive. That is why we resist anything new. We resist change as well. It is important to know how the mind operates.

It is also important to know from which level the mind operates, where the mind is standing, which platform it is operating from.


If the platform is inertia, it is important to know that we must detach ourselves from inertia. Inertia says, ”Ok, it’s fine, you can sleep some more, you can rest some more, you can do it tomorrow…“ These are all signs of overpowering inertia. Inertia is overpowering and it’s creating these kinds of signs. Then it is important to understand, when mind says, ”We will not do it tomorrow, we will do it now.“ That is the best way to counter it.


If you want to beat tamas, inertia, you have to marry rajas, action. Action is the best way to beat tamas. There is no point in meditating. There is no point in doing something else. These are all probably diversions or substitutions. Substitutions do not work here. You can’t substitute one thing. If you are thirsty, you have to drink water. There is no way you can eat food and quench your thirst. You need to have some liquid when liquid is required by the body. Just like that, every aspect has its value. You cannot substitute that. But when you know that, ”I’m not able to move further because of inertia and the mind rooted in inertia is creating such problems, that’s the time to detach and move into action. When mind says, ”tomorrow”, do it now. This is the importance of being in the now. This is very important to know. If you operate in the now all the time, inertia cannot stay. Inertia always takes you backwards and forwards, to the past and the future. This is important to understand. Where are you operating from and why are you operating?
When you do not do something and then you feel agitated, this is also part of inertia. It means you do not want to do something, and then you start blaming yourself. Both are two sides of the same coin, or two aspects of the same thing. They are dimensions of inertia. Inertia is postponing things, then putting guilt into you later on. It is important to understand what is working within. If it is inertia, and if you are clear about it, cut off. And the best way is action. I tell people, go jogging, play tennis, do activity with a physical body, more than you did before, so that the tendency to procrastinate is defeated. At the same time, you try and sit to meditate, mind will love it, because mind will manipulate that and convert it into inertia, mind will say, ok, now you are feeling tired, sleep now. So what happened? A good activity which would have raised you to the level of sattwa, the mild, the clean and the pure, brings you down to the level of ignorance, because for procrastination, you don’t have to do anything. By nature you procrastinate. But to create sattwa, it is the positive action at the time, of being in time, it takes effort. We have to really tune ourselves to achieve that. That is not easy. But procrastination and indulgence are no problem. If you like to drink alcohol you’ll have many friends. But if you sit and meditate, or if you meditate at the same space and time, then people will say, ok, after my drink, I’ll come to you (laughter). This is the way life goes. In most of the situations you can see that happening. In most of our life on a consistent basis, many times we see that happening. It means, good company is hard to come by. That is because good company needs sacrifice. Sacrifice in the sense, what you like to do versus what you have to do. What you like to do versus what is good for you. Maybe the food you eat is not good for you.

Purity and the subtle

If you are operating in the level of sattwa, in purity and the subtle, then you will only consume what is good for you. You will definitely reject what is not good for you. It’s not what you like to eat. That is why we go to fast foods, things which make you a slave of it. It makes you repeat it. You consume it once, again when you are hungry, you suddenly remember the fast food joint. Not ever do we consider, ”Is this actually what I want?” You never consider what your body wants. Not because you have deficiency. This is how mind operates. Mind’s pattern is like that. It catches on to something which you like to do, or it creates things that it likes, and that’s usually related to senses. Something which is very tasty, may not be the right food, and the right food may not be tasty either. Some of the best medicines are very bitter, but that is what cures you.

Whatever you do, do it with conviction

Make an effort to spread the word of love. That is what you are.

Make an effort to spread the word of love. That is what you are.

I clear doubts, but ask yourself,“Have the concepts been cleared?“ That is more important than doubts. Mind poses doubts. Mind will continue to pose doubts, but when the concepts are cleared, the root is cleared. I would rather be happy to clear the concepts. I would rather be happy if you attain the state of non-conformity, and you are flowing like a river so that you are not bound by anything, you are free, you have full freedom, you are liberated, no concepts are binding you, you are not bound by frames, you are not creating further frames and also you are existing in truth. That is what should be achieved with all this exercise. This is what is meant. I’ll be glad to clear doubts, because doubts also block progress. But doubts are minor compared to concepts. Concepts are the more powerful barriers in the path of spiritual evolution, any evolution, on any level, concepts are the binding factor. They never allow you to see the truth. They give you distorted truth and mind buys it, mind subscribes to it saying,“This could be the truth.“ This is also why some fears do not leave. Some fears for which the mind says,“This is dangerous.“ It makes us invalid, our motion is limited. That is the thing.

The key point is whatever you do, do it with conviction. That gives you intensity. I tell people, if you live only one day, live that day with intensity. It is not intensity out of the mind. It is the intensity of the purpose. If you look at Jesus’s life, every moment was intense. Because the purpose was so overwhelming and so real, it made your every moment intense. And that intensity is beautiful. Because if you are living only ten years more, those ten years will be worth it. Or a few days more, it will still be worth it, because a whole life wasted over concepts, over theories, over perceptions and a few days lived with intensity of purpose, it is a huge difference. Life becomes worthwhile. That is the difference between living and existing. We are existing most of the time, not living. ’Living’ means you have to live with intensity. And that intensity should not be created. It should happen based on purpose. Mind is such a culprit that it hides and attacks. There are certain animals which hide in the bush and attack. Mind is like that. It catches you at the time when you least expect it.

My wish is that you are able to see reality and the truth beyond the mind. And make an effort to spread the word of love. That is what you are.

If you are able to spread the word of love, saying that,“I am love, you are love as well. I am god, you are god as well.“ The simple truth of spirituality and without any binding. Not forcing,“You should meditate ten times a week!“ Not so. This is all immaterial. If you like to meditate, meditate. If you don’t like to meditate, still be clear and pure within. That is the constant exercise. To be pure within, you need to be like a watchman guarding the gate. You need to control the inputs in thought, word, action. You need to control the inputs through the intellect, mind and body so that at every level we maintain our purity and purification. Nothing will affect you any more. You are pure and clean while living and you will be pure all the time.

Mohanji quote - Whatever you do do it with conviction

By mohansuniverse

Towards Liberation

Mohanji quote - All I am talking about is pointing towards liberation


Q: When you say everything happens, it’s not really us in control. It’s the divine coming and working through us. What about these documentaries like “The Secret”, etc. where if you visualise something, you can get that, and have this experience?
A: Actually, has anybody had that experience? I’m not talking about you. Did you read any testimonials at all? “The Secret” has sold well, I understand. I’ll answer that when I come to it later.
Q: That visualisation has changed things, yet certainly not the overall picture. Isn’t visualisation like a wish?
A: Yes. It is not the divine working through you. Divine is always available. The part of the divine is your soul. Before we started this journey, before your incarnation, you chose what you wanted in this life, including whom you would meet and what things you would achieve. That is where free will entered. The moment you entered into your womb, you started your journey. Then it is a pre-planned trip. That means you drew your map before the journey. You said, “This is where I want to go and I need this much time for the journey.” One hundred years, two hundred years, however long you want to stay in your body. That is chosen. Thus the journey is chosen, where you will take your birth is chosen, all this is chosen and you come forward. Once you start the journey, it’s basically the road map, or destiny, taking you. That is where your free will ended. This is how you started the journey. In this case, if you say, “I want this particular thing, let’s say, a Mercedes car.” If you think you need to have a Mercedes car, you decide to have it, and you are visualizing. I don’t know how “The Secret” tells you to do it, but you visualize whatever you are doing in that picture. Where did this thought of a Mercedes car come from? Why a Mercedes car in the first place? That ingredient already sat in you. Why didn’t you choose a bicycle? Or an aircraft? There is a saying, if you dream, dream like a king, not a minister. So, what actually gave you the thought of this particular thing? It’s because that ingredient had already been sitting in you. If you do not have an inclination for having alcohol, you will not even have a thought of having alcohol. So the ingredients are already there. And then, what are you doing with this visualisation (or you can look at it as meditation) is that you are focusing on one aspect which you really want so that the other things move away. The clutter is removed and you focus on that thing. Then it manifests, because it was supposed to manifest anyway. You see? This is the truth. Think about it.
Don’t just accept what I say. Think about how it works. Where does the thought come from? A wish? A desire? There is something in you which tells you that you need a particular thing. There are so many things in the world which you do not need at all, or that you are not even aware of. However you need a particular thing. Where is the thought coming from? The desire. The inclination for that thing. Where does the inclination come from? From karma. That is what moved you here. That is what made you take birth. So the karma gave you the inclination, or the desire, and the desire gave you the thought, thought gave you the word, or visualisation, image, whatever, and then it became an action. Then you think, “I visualised enough, so it materialised.” I say, “Congratulations. :)” (laughter) Because I always see the gimmicks in it. You are trying to manipulate your mind and make it believe that you achieved it. That is the doership issue, “I am doing it.” So you feel happy, “Oh, I’m amazing!” But actually what has happened, ha, ha? You just removed the clutter. So many things were there. You focused on one thing, so it happened. It was supposed to happen anyway.

Wealth and true charity

Happiness Desktop BackgroundYou can see very, very rich people with very poor hearts. Have you seen? You can see it in our society. Extremely rich, they don’t know what to do with their money, but very, very poor hearts. They will not give anything to you, or anything for a good purpose. But they will hoard, they will hold all their money like this and they will die. And the children will come and waste the whole thing. You can see this. Especially first generation rich men, most of them are just watchmen. They live like watchmen of their wealth, and then the next generation comes. They have no clue where the wealth came from, and they will destroy it. Because they were born in money. Why is this happening? It is because in one life time they will be craving wealth. But if you have wealth and no maturity, you will be much poorer than the poorest man. If you have wealth as well as maturity, you will have a balanced existence. I always tell people, if you have wealth, be grateful. And also, share it with people. Not the whole thing, I am not saying to blow it away, I am saying, keep whatever you need, it doesn’t matter. If you are able to have a Rolls Royce, have a Rolls Royce. That is probably what you wanted in life. Enjoy it. Be here, enjoy, have good food, have whatever you need. But understand, do not be dependent on that. That is not moving you. Enjoy it while you can. At the same time, share so that you feel wealthier. You will actually feel the wealth. Only when you share and spread the happiness, can you actually feel that you are good enough. ACT to stop hungerI was discussing the Daan. Daan means giving away. Daan should always be with a flavour that you are grateful to the person who is receiving because he is relieving you from your karmas. If you give something to a person say, “Thank you for accepting this from me, and please enjoy. Thank you for relieving me from my afflictions, my karmas because of this, I’m grateful to you.” This is true charity. Not that, “I’m a richman, ok, you are very poor, please be poor so that I can keep giving to you.” This is sadism, this is not good. These are subtle variations of the whole thing. I am saying this because we must be clear where we stand. E.g. “I’ve donated 10,000 USD to charity.” Excellent, it’s out of 10 million, it is still ok, but the attitude of charity is what? “I’m also looking after the poor people. But I like them being poor so that I can keep paying them and feel gratified.” That is not exactly charity. That is a sadistic pleasure. We should give so that it makes us happy, and the receiver is happy and gratefulness sprouts in us. If gratefulness sprouts in us, we are liberated all the time. We stay liberated. This is one aspect.

A man is sitting and begging in the palace of the king. He can see very rich princes and princesses and all the people going up and down and he aspired, “I should go inside.” And he dies and takes the next birth as the princess’s son. So he is inside the palace. But he still had the attitude and characteristics of the beggar. All the while he had been standing outside, but now he had taken birth inside. In that life he couldn’t have gone inside. But in this life he came inside. But the outlook is the same. A poor servant comes in and asks, “My child is sick, please can you give me some money?” The man says, “Oh, no, no… I cannot give you anything.” That will be the attitude. Why? Because inside the beggarhood still continues. You can see this in life.

So manifestation of anything also needs eligibility. Eligibility has to be acquired. And the highest eligibility is where you have everything, but you are not dependent on anything. That is the highest possible eligibility, and that is also liberation. All I am talking about is pointing towards liberation. Understand this from every angle. If you assimilate all this, you will know the path of life, the path of the pathless. And you will be able to see through the world, to see through situations, to see through people. Because these are obvious things.

So doing as the books say, this is all probably good. These practices are definitely beneficial to remove clutter from the mind. They leave the mind free, empty. This is all nice, but what is the objective? I know so many people, day in and day out praying for wealth and richness, but not for wisdom. If you have money, but no wisdom, what’s the use? If you have money, but no maturity, that is even more detrimental. It pulls you down further and you do all sorts of atrocities with the money. Because the ego comes forward as well. “I have purchasing power, I have wealth, I am a rich man. I am much better than you.” Ego, pride, lust, all these come forward and you get contaminated further. However at the same time, if you have wealth, you are grateful for it, you are enjoying it, and you are using the wealth for your own benefit as well as for others’ benefit, it is a beautiful scenario.
Money and wealth come to you when your stature grows. Money comes to you when you elevate yourself, your consciousness, because you grow more and more into the subtle plane of energy. Money is matter. It conglomerates to you, it comes to you. You don’t have to run after money. If you run after money, there is no guarantee you will get it. But when your stature grows, money flows. Please remember this clearly. When your stature grows, when you are operating more and more in the plane of energy, of subtlety, the gross aspect comes to you. Then you may not even need it. That is what I am saying, you may have everything, but you are not bound by anything. That is freedom. That is liberation. You have millions, but you say, ok, that is fine, you can still only eat as much as your stomach can contain. You cannot eat currency. This aspect will always maintain your maturity, your wisdom level. At that time you will have everything you need, but will not be bound by anything. That is absolute freedom. As your stature grows, money flows.

Q: Is all the money that comes into our hands meant to be, is it all part of our karma?
A: Yes, right. The nature of money is that it is valid only when it is moving. If it is sitting inside a box, it has no validity. Of course, money has its value, but its movement is its life. Money is energy. Money is transactional. When it is transactional, when it is moving, it has validity.

The hoarding of money is not a good idea, because that is not satisfying anybody. It’s only satisfying some insecurity of the individual who hoards the money. Money needs to be moving. It’s like drawing water from the well. The more water you draw water from the well, the more water comes in and equalises. If you are naturally creating that recycling of money, more and more money will flow, you will be fine. Whether it’s the money that you keep with you or money that is flowing through you, it doesn’t matter, as long as you are on a perpetual happy path. Let the money flow, it comes and goes. You are fine, things are taken care of, you are happy.

But the moment you start chasing money, then you have all the associated problems. You will tend to hold on to money, you will tend to store money, you will have insecurities, you will have anxieties that somebody will come and steal it. That is why when we become richer and richer, what happens is that we build more and more cages around ourselves. We destroy our freedom and we depend on other people to protect us. This is another aspect.

The worst aspect is when you sell your integrity, your soul to make money. That is very bad. Many people do that. They are greedy, they want money, so they do things which are completely unethical. They make money and they try to regain their stature or status through using the money. But I’ll tell you one thing. Once the inside is contaminated, cleansing is very difficult. Keep this clean. Do the right thing. The best thing is to stay with the truth. Always stick to the truth. Do what is right. What is right is what does not damage your conscience. If something does not damage your conscience, it is good for you. It will maintain you. It will stabilise you and it will take you forward. Whether you are rich or not, peace of mind is more important. If you are very rich and there is no peace of mind, what is the use? You will have an excellent bed, but no sleep.

Operating in the Now

Q: If I am supposed to live in the present and doing meditation makes that easier, how do I make plans and set priorities for the future?
A: The answer itself is in the question. If your purpose of now is to make a plan for tomorrow, you must do that. Like, you were planning for my trip here. If you say, “I will not make any plans for Mohanji’s arrival from the airport, then how will people come and meet me?“ So at that point in time you have to make a plan for my coming to South Africa, these are the venues, these are the programmes, and to announce it. That is operation in the now. That is not contradicting that point. The point is that you are operating only in the now. You are not influenced by the guilt of the past, nor anxieties of the future. This is the point. I am operating in the now. What am I supposed to do now? This is the question. ”At this point in time, the thing on my table is Mohanji’s visit to South Africa,” and then, ”What should I do about it?” Dissect it. ”These are the available dates. These are the possible programmes. These are the venues which could be possible. Contact the corresponding people, put things in order and announce it.” That has to be happening now. But the activity is happening in the future. That is not contradictory. You do what you are supposed to do, even if it is planning for an event in the future, now. It is not that you worry about something in the future, ”Oh, Mohanji is coming, I’m worried…” What for? That is not solving the point. Be in the present, do whatever it takes to make the present fulfilled, complete.

Mohanji quote - Always stick to the truth
Excerpt from Sediba retreat in South Africa, September 2013

By mohansuniverse

From Duality to Oneness

From Satsang at Sediba Retreat, South Africa, September 2013


Q: Each of us will attain liberation one day, nobody will not attain it. It is a fundamental truth about Christianity, at this cross section, somebody will go to Heaven and somebody will go to Hell.
A: In principle, everybody will have salvation. Everybody has to go. It’s like the supreme Father has to go, so when the show is over, “Come back!” So all the good and bad will come back, merge and finish. That’s it. Once it’s dissolved, there is no duality.

Q: The cycle will not continue after it?
A: Cycle can continue, it depends on the maintenance of duality. It goes on for trillions of years. However, if we consider it from our limited duration, e.g. 80 years, we will not understand the size of that activity. Now consider this in an objective way. Wherever there is brightness, there is the possibility of shade as well, darkness. When light is absent, there is darkness. When light comes, darkness disappears. So there is distinct duality on the plane, the light and the shade.

What maintains duality


Mohanji quote - Wherever there is brightness

In that context, shade means ignorance or non-understanding, or tamas, inertia. Brightness and white light is full understanding, consciousness, purity, beauty. If you look at the path of beauty, purity, bright light, you can say that every being will merge sooner or later. Temporary detours do happen, but finally they will merge. In the case of shade, shade is dependent on light for its existence, but at the same time, it also has its relevance. I’m just throwing thoughts to consider. Shade has its validity. Shade says, “This area, this is the reality.” You cannot see, you have to believe. “You are not as great as you think, you are only this.” So you automatically have a conflict there. This conflict happens in everyone’s mind. This light-and-shade show goes on in everybody’s mind! Nobody is immune to it. That is also the reason why we doubt ourselves – because we listen to the shade and we feel, “Maybe that is right, I must consider that.” But if you consider light, I’d say, “No, I am the absolute brightness, I’m fine. I’m moving on.” Shades will happen, like the saying, “If you start throwing stones at every dog that barks at you, you will never reach your destination.” Ha, ha. It is similar. We have to contain this sound, but often we can’t. Somebody will say something. It could be a human being, a thought, a message, an email, facebook, whatever, but it provokes an action or reaction from us, within us. And that delays us. It makes us take a detour. This is one side.

Negative entities

So on one side, liberation, yes, it is guaranteed for all, no problem.

Second, there are negative entities, the entities who chose to stay in the negative, and thus duality is maintained. Just like us, just like the white, negative entities are all the same. Their interest is sadistic pleasure, more or less. Like, you bought a beautiful car, one boy was jealous, he picked up a stone and threw it at the car. His job is done. He is happy. He manifested his jealousy in a ‘beautiful’ way, “ha, ha, he is out of the game”. You have to repair the car, right? This is the point I am making. It’s easy to throw a stone, but to rectify the whole thing, takes time, and that’s agony. You have to spend money, you have to spend time… all these things will happen.
If everything is good, you will never understand what good is. If there is no villain in a fiction film, you will never know who the hero is. Who will James Bond fight with? :) You need to have an opponent. The opponent is one that binds you, controls you, enslaves you, makes you do things which you probably never wanted to do, and makes you miserable. That aspect is there. Many people go through that process. How do you get there? It’s primarily because you do not know where you are going. There is confusion in your existence. You do not know the journey. You do not know what you are here for and also you think that this is what you are here for.

Following the crowd

The third thing is the attitude of “I do not want to think, let somebody else think for me.” So you follow the herd. If one cow goes, every cow will go. That aspect, for e.g. “My neighbour is attending this programme, or this particular thing, so let me go as well. She must be right. I trust her, so what she does must be right.” We never know. We have to use our intellect, our understanding, our awareness. Take your time to choose your guru. It is your right to take the time. But once you are clear and convinced, follow till the end of the road. Otherwise you will be neither here nor there, anywhere. So how do beings who like to control and own operate? They capture souls who are weak and vulnerable. First of all, understand clearly that every soul has the same power. There is no weaker or stronger soul. Clear that notion away. However, the baggage has various flavours. This is the point I am making. The soul which is operating with the baggage is weaker and can be controlled. Like a soul which is has the baggage of ignorance can be conquered and controlled. So these are the beings who control such people. Not just human beings, any beings. That is why if you look at the weaker, the victimised, mostly such souls are operating. Why aren’t they able to get rid of the victim cycle? It’s because they are put back by these master entities, who captured the souls and put them into the bodies of cyclical victims. This is what we are talking about in the dairy industry, animals in captivity, tortured animals. When these souls get out of the body, they get caught again and are put back. They control the operation. This is not on a karmic level. Ok, even if it is a karmic birth, it is controlled by other entities who are conquering nature. So it is even more important to be associated with the powerful, with the white side, and have nothing to do with the dark. So this is the third aspect.


Mohanji quote - A mind filled with doubts

Fourth, in human beings doubts are put in. If a person is climbing up well in the path of spirituality, suddenly a few doubts come in. Immediately the fall happens. It is usually said, partially as a joke, that whatever you hear from the left ear is from the right side. Whatever you hear from the right ear is from the left side. If you are hearing oriented maybe it is a good thing to consider. But you can see this in life a lot. We will be progressing well over a period of time, then suddenly – we drop. Even people who have had great experiences fall. It is often not their fault, however they did buy into this idea, they bought into the idea of the negative. They started feeling, “Oh, that could be true.” This is exactly the point.

The astral planes

Q: What is happening on the astral plane?
A: Don’t look at dimensions at the astral level. Because that is more or less connected to our existing dimension. See, there are business lounges, economy lounges, first class lounges, etc. at the airport. On the astral level it is almost the same. Let us not distort our thought process. The point is that you get a general understanding. Based on your level of consciousness, you get that kind of master. Like if a person speaks Italian, and a French master comes, he will not understand him. Think in practical terms. When you go up, from this body, you are at a particular level of evolution, and a corresponding master will come. You can call this a different level of astral plane. If the astral plane is a trade center with a hundred stories, you reach different locations :) But in the whole perspective, in the whole structure, there is no difference. The purpose is the same. Mohanji quote - What you are connected to at the time of deathThe purpose is actually recycling. What you are catered into depends on what your merit is. And what you are connected to at the time of death is also very important. If you are deeply connected to my consciousness, you go back to my consciousness. That is what Krishna says, “You can merge with any consciousness, but it is mine anyway.” Krishna is talking here about Parabrahma, the supreme Father, within which the astral plane also exists. Every plane exists within him. Levels and layers are there. Why I am not giving too many details is because intellect is too strong in all of us. We would start churning all that now. But our aim is not analytical or academic ideas. Our aim is to liberate, right? Just a basic understanding is good enough, no more, because there is no written exam tomorrow :) What we do though is we collect these, and we start going through the Internet, and we start adding more. This is human nature. That is why I am giving only a basic understanding. This is the inner field. There are many lokas, or worlds, which are also similar and where we can exist like here. Like if the fire that we had in the morning had been more powerful, you would have run away, right? Our body, our vulnerability could not handle it. In that context, there are other lokas where there are different levels of existence. And that is directly reflected on those beings, what their capacity is, what they can do. But our capacity is limited because we are made out of elements. If you say, “Let me meditate under water,” you will have to come up after one or two minutes, breathe and go back again. Because of our limitation, we need oxygen. We cannot have too much fire, and too much air is also not possible. We’d be bloated.

Q: And too much knowledge is also not really valuable?
A: Yes. It is good to know, but then it is only catering to the intellect. And the intellect will churn out more, “I want to know more about that.” It is just wasting time. The intellect is just taking it easy, taking time. It says, “I wanted that information. I want to know more.” But what for?

Stay connected, the rest is guru’s job

Q: Sometimes when you fall, your awareness is not enough to pull you back and your will is not enough. What else can you do?
A: In our path, the path of Shiva, it’s usually the guru’s job. When you fall, guru holds you. What happens is you are allowed to experience, and at the same time, you are allowed to come back. The door is always swinging open in our path. Datta tradition is like that. Nobody will judge you. Nobody will criticise you. Everybody is accepted as they are, because your free will is intact. And you wanted to experience something else, you even wanted to experience the fall. This is allowed so that you know what it feels like to fall. Then again you are lifted back, you are embraced. Guru needs nothing in our path. Guru delivers everything. It’s not in teaching. It’s in activity that everything is achieved. monkey mother and childFiguratively said, it is like a monkey’s child. The monkey’s child does not have the power to climb the tree. It’s small. But it clings to the mother, and mother climbs the tree, so it reaches the highest branch. So you are lifted. The path itself lifts you. And the corresponding gurus will come and hold you. Sometimes, if you did not understand the fall, you may not understand the elevation. That is also part of our path. You may fall, but then the fall is not permanent. But if you operate on the ego plane, then it is more of a permanent nature. Again, it is not absolutely permanent, but still in repetitive activities. Especially when you have a feeling, “I am doing it, so I am achieving.” Then it is even more difficult to get up after the fall. But to slip up and down is normal, as long as there is the mind. That is mind’s job. Mind keeps you up for some time, then pulls you down, then pulls you up. That goes on. So just watch it with amusement, watch the play. But our tradition has always said, “Stay with the guru.” Guru or path, let’s say, if you do not like to have a physical guru. It doesn’t matter. Or if the Guru has left the body, it is also ok. They are equally powerful. Even if they have left the body, their consciousness stays. They are here, now. If you connect to Shirdi Sai Baba, Sathya Sai Baba, Akkalkot Swami, Jesus, any guru whom you are able to connect with, that is enough. Because that consciousness is available to you all the time, just like the sun is available to all beings. Your job is to stay connected with all your tenacity and conviction. The rest is guru’s job. 80% is guru’s job. Even now during the retreat, too, this is how we work. That is our way of operation. That is also the beauty of the path. The beauty is not in the activity, it’s in beingness. That is also the difference of this path. The beingness is well established with every activity. Activity is there, but it is minimal. It is not in the activity that you grow. Activity is used to occupy the mind only. Activity occupies the mind, but it cannot guarantee your progress.

Consciousness is one

Q: Does the guru have to be in the body to physically transfer that special current?
A: No, that is exactly the point I made. In our path of Shiva, guru happens when you need him. When in the classroom, you never invited a teacher to come and teach you. They walked in and they started teaching you. And that was the right teacher to take you to the next level.

Q: We have had many lifetimes. We may have even met Shirdi Sai Baba, or other masters in other lifetimes, but here in this lifetime we haven’t actually physically met them. Are we still connected from other lifetimes?
A: There are two questions in this. The first question is whether you are connected from other lifetimes. Definitely. First, otherwise you wouldn’t have this information today. Second, you did not meet Sai Baba or Jesus, these are the bodies who existed in those times. Then how will you meet them in this time!? Consciousness is still there, but you are looking at the physical form. I do not guarantee that this physical form will exist. I am here today. Ten years later, there is no guarantee. So twenty years later, if somebody says, “I have never met Mohanji in this lifetime,” that is not the proper question at all because how do you expect to have longevity in the physical body? Consciousness-wise they will meet me all the time. Consciousness-wise you can always stay connected to Krishna, Buddha, Jesus, because consciousness never goes. It’s one consciousness. It can operate through many bodies. Even if Krishna came back today, he would not come with a peacock feather and a flute and walk along the street. This would be like a comedy show! He would probably come as a doctor, an engineer or a computer expert, or maybe Bill Gates, ha, ha. Just joking. This is my point. An avatar can happen, consciousness can take any number of incarnations, but it may not be in the same form and it isn’t valid in the same form either. However, unfortunately we are stuck with images. We want to see that in this context. That’s where the problem lies. Then we suffer. Because that’s not possible. The form is taken only for a duration and a purpose. After that the form is shed. How do you bring the form back again? Technically yes, Babaji has lived for thousands of years. That is technically possible. Even if your intent is very strong, Krishna can happen, but not as a birth and death, i.e. taking birth, living and dying. He can appear and disappear because this is not a big deal.

Mohanji reflects Hanumanji 1 Our USA family asked that Mohanji bless them on Hanuman Jayanti last year. These photos, taken after the Hanuman puja that same day, reveal and uncanny reflection of Hanumanji in Mohanji's photo. The pure intentio

Our USA team asked that Mohanji bless them on Hanuman Jayanti in 2014. This photo, taken after the Hanuman puja that same day, reveals an uncanny reflection of Hanumanji in Mohanji’s photo. The pure intentioned wish of a true devotee is always granted. All masters are one… where does Mohanji end and where does Hanumanji begin?

When you are operating in the plane of energy, you can conglomerate matter at any point in time through centuries, no problem. My point is that if Krishna came back, he would take another body, another name, another identity. But Krishna’s consciousness is available.

Q: Even Babaji or Hanumanji will not appear in the same form?
A: There are many entities of that nature. Babaji is one of the most powerful and interacting. Babaji is actually guiding a lot of people, and doing a lot of things. Even now, I don’t think he always comes in one form. At that level of operation, when you are completely operating on the energy form, the form has no validity. He will probably choose a form that you will understand, so that you know that Babaji came. Otherwise there is no problem. Babaji could come as a cat or a dog, or a bird, too. The idea is to convey a message or do a thing.
Coming back to your question, reincarnation may not be in the same form or the same flavour. He could be of a different flavour. Consciousness is one. Once you merge with one consciousness, all the consciousnesses are the same. We have given various names to various bodies, like we have today. And we are trying to reproduce that body or the name, to clone in another life time. That is not possible. But the consciousness is coming back now and again, it is possible.

By mohansuniverse

Progressing Further

Access Your Real Self

Usually people have only very small blockages within them, which prevent them from experiencing the ultimate or the highest. Sometimes if there is a problem with our body, we do not realize until it becomes serious. In the same way, we are used to carrying a blockage over from many life times, so sometimes we do not see it, or feel it because it’s part of our system. But in such a communion you are able to access your real self.

Mohanji a I wouldn’t call the Power of Purity a meditation because it is more of a communion. The 360 degrees is a meditation because you are deliberately cleansing the chakras in a certain way so that the higher energies can be accessed. Furthermore, it’s more serious and time consuming, and unless the person has perseverance, he cannot get through it. But the Power of Purity meditation opens all the channels, and then the communion becomes easier. This is more of a communion than a meditation. So you are able to access your real self.

I will briefly explain what this accessing is all about.

When your soul first took birth in this plane of Earth, the soul was fully in communion with the Higher Entity, i.e. there was no difference between the Higher and you. It desired to take a certain unit, such as a body, only for certain experiences. At that time, I would call it a dharmic experience, or something which is not of a karmic nature. It wasn’t binding, it always had a choice that it could go back whenever it needed. Later on, what happens is relationships happen, bindings happen, ownership happens, attachments happen. Then you go through the process of births and deaths. So when you go through the process of births and deaths, the unit becomes further unitized i.e. you start feeling that “I am a unit. I am not part of the Higher Existence”. This is just a notion that the mind gives you, but reality is different. We don’t access reality because we don’t know how. It is something unknown. For a conscious mind, for a particular body, for a particular duration, you have taken it on to experience certain things and to express certain things. And like that, life has gone by. Many lives, many births have happened. And over this time, the consciousness which was one started segregating. You can always access the Higher Consciousness – just like the transformer outside, but it had to go through a smaller unit to give you electricity in the house. Like that, you started operating with a smaller infrastructure. But the Higher always exists, and you can always access it, provided the blockages are removed.

So now the situation is that you have gone through various lives, experienced enough and you think, “This is all temporary. I have been doing this for lifetimes. Where is the relief now?” Then you start getting back to your real nature. This Higher – what I call “transformer” – starts coming close to you. And you are in the process of merging with it. Again back to your old form, which is all powerful. Which is not different from the Higher energy that created the world. It’s just a unitized form, that’s all. Like a drop of sea water has all the properties of the mother ocean. Just like that, you have all the properties of the Creator. But you will start knowing that and feeling that and experiencing that. Knowing has no value, because then the mind always plays games, “Oh, you were probably imagining, you never really experienced it”. But experiencing and owning that experience takes you to the next level. Because this is 100% personal material. Nobody can have the same experience that you have had, because you have earned it. Because of your past life sadhanas, you have reached a particular level where you got the eligibility level to experience such a thing. So you have that prarabdha with you. And that created that experience for you. In such a case, nobody can take it away from you. Like your experience in professional life – nobody can take it away from you. Maybe they can steal a seat, but not the experience – that belongs to you. Just like that, whatever you have earned is yours. And you are travelling from there. The best thing about spirituality is – wherever you stopped in your last life, you continue from there in this life. There is a continuity. But as regards the physical, mental, emotional – there is no continuity, so each life, you cut it off and you start again. Sometimes we feel the familiarity of emotions and people, that’s about it. Once you travel through this path of experience and evolution, detachment happens. Whether a particular thing or person is with us or not with us, it doesn’t make a difference, we are still the same. We are actually immune to all the external affairs. We are very happy with our internal strength and that is what you call God. So this is the process, in short.

Q: Today, while doing the meditation, despite the physical discomfort due to not being used to sitting down, somehow I felt that something was moving inside, under the skin on my forehead. I don’t know what. I could visualize everything while blessing, but somehow I could not visualize myself. Then you were telling us to “visualize friends, relatives”. I could visualize everyone, but when it came to visualizing myself, I could not see myself. I don’t know why.
M: There are two reasons for that. First of all, acceptance of ourselves is much more difficult than accepting other people. This is our truth. This is often why we have conflicts within. We can probably accept another person, just as we accept film heroes, or we accept gurus, or others. We accept or do not accept – both are the same, both we can do. Definitely you have the faculty to accept an external being. But internally, we say we are not up to the mark. We feel we are somewhat short, as we are very judgmental of ourselves. Sometimes we are judgmental about other people and they go away from us. This also happens, but essentially we are very judgmental of ourselves. In order to come together with you, or with the world, or with any activity that you do, first of all, acceptance of yourself with all the pluses and all the minuses is very important. With that, deep peace falls over you. Maybe other people will say that you are not up to the mark. That is their opinion. That is not your reality. Please understand that clearly. If someone comes and tells you Person X is not 100%, that is their opinion. Does that person know you? In all your states? It can never happen because you have 3 states every day.
One is the waking state where you are sitting now. Then there is a dream state, where you are also operating, using energy from the system, but you are operating at a much wider angle than you can in the physical form because sometimes you can see yourself in another country, USA or some country in Europe. You are probably married to another person. So many dreams happen, and there you are sorting out so many issues. So you have an active dream state.
Then you have a 3rd state – a deep sleep state where you are completely nullifying all your identities. You do not know whether you are a man or a woman. You don’t know whether it’s day or night. You don’t know what the time is. Time, space – everything vanishes. Your identity is also dissolved. That state is the state of replenishing, astral travel and all such things, because your identities are not bothering you. Then you wake up, you bring back all the identities of this life. And you start believing that this is my qualification, this is my job. Like that, if some person is giving their opinion about you, how much of you does he understand?

This is why I say that there are 2 nonsensical things we always do. We start talking about other people, and say, “I know him. He is like that”, etc. This is only 1 part of him, his activity which we are expressing. This is a waste of time.
Likewise we become too judgmental about ourselves and we undervalue ourselves. Or overvalue. Some people have more than required. That is also not good. Be real. “I am like this”. That is why yesterday in Chandigarh, I said this – like a mother, observe your thoughts. Some of the children, i.e. some of the thoughts, are very naughty. Let them be. Do not try to censor it, manipulate it, criticize it, or block it. Let it all flow through your mind. Don’t participate and just watch. When a mother watches the child very closely, the child will behave in a normal way, without any interference. Like that, you can detach yourself and watch your own thoughts. When that happens more and more, your detachment becomes much easier. So you will start accepting yourself from every angle. Once you start accepting yourself from every angle, it’s easy to bless yourself. Because you are an entity, just like any other entity. There is no difference. You have taken this shape for a particular experience, or for a set of experiences or expressions. Whichever way you look at it, this is fine. Nobody else is like you, nobody can be compared with another. So where is the conflict? Everything dissolves. When everything dissolves, there is a deep shanti, a deep peace within. And that peace is transferable. When you are in the company of other people, they also feel the peace. Similarly, when we are agitated and we try to mix with other people, they also feel the same agitation. This is because they can catch it – it’s subtle, but it’s potent, so they catch it. Like that, if you keep practicing this, if you like to practice it, practice it. If you cannot meditate due to bodily discomfort – whether you are sitting down or not, that is normal. Meditation is a stage where the mind is getting dissolved. So mind will protest – it’s like when someone is drowning. They will desperately try to get a breath. Like that, mind creates certain situations where you are unsettled. You feel restless, and that has to happen. Because then you know that mind exists. Then you have to look beyond the mind. “Ok, mind, you are fine, you are doing your job. I am doing my job as well. I am not you. You are a part of me, but I am not you.” Detachment happens. Then it’s very simple. Discomfort? You won’t even feel you are a body; this gentleman here felt the same. He was completely expanded – I was watching. You know, he has done tremendously well in one go. That eligibility achieved – I hate to compare, but you can achieve the same thing too.

Mohanji quote - Look Beyond the mind

What I am saying is – walk the path. Do not measure your progress. Do not compare yourself with another person. Keep walking with faith and 100% purity. Not for a particular reason, but saying, “Whatever result happens, I accept it.” Whatever food comes to your table is your Prasad, your gracious gift, for the day from the deity, from God. Like that, you accept it as it is. No harm will happen. Faith will make sure that no harm will happen. Like that, if you go further, things start clearing. And particular gurus will come and give you information as well. You won’t know where they came from, but you will get your information. And Guru is not just one individual or an image. It is a sanskara, it’s a tradition. Guru is a tradition. You will get your apt information at the right time, whether you follow a guru or not. It is also essential not to be bound by it. I have a tea today, I am happy. If I don’t have a tea, well enough.
If you exist that way, all the frictions will vanish. There are no conflicts within any more. Like that, you can progress further.
Transcribed by Madhusudan Rajagopalan

By mohansuniverse

Reach the Substance Beyond Form


Mohanji quote - God does not ask for any worship        God does not ask for any worship; God does not ask for anything from you. Or Guru, true Guru doesn’t need anything from you. But You, you have to feel connected to him. See, it’s like I say I know Silvester Stalone very well, but he doesn’t know me. You know- it’s always one way connection. So how do you feel connected? You are to move in with the consciousness of the Guru. That is the real connection. Otherwise, you look at the image, you look at the manners, you look at the action, and you’ll say “I know Him”. That’s not true; because that only signifies a very small aspect of the whole consciousness. So, when your consciousness is connected, what ritual will help you? Nothing. But if certain rituals the Guru does for you, or guides you, that is to relieve you from some afflictions; something is being changed, that is good for you. Otherwise it becomes another ritual. Many people do fire rituals every day, without meaning it. So it’s wasted time, waste of effort. But the Guru says “OK, do this, break the coconut now,” or do something; that way something is removed. That is okay, because Guru can see from above. He can see that this is the constitution this person is operating, “Let me take this away, so that the operating level becomes more free.” That shows in life, it will be reflected in life; otherwise it’s not a good thing to do. I’m not ritual-oriented either, I’m not into spirit rituals, because rituals bind you. Activity per se is not compulsory. None of the rituals are compulsory. But they might help at certain times. If you do not do something, even meditation, if you do not practise one day you feel miserable. “Ooh, I didn’t do it; I don’t feel nice.” That is binding. You should be staying liberated, “Okay, whatever it is, I am connected to the Guru”. In the Nath tradition the Guru delivers most of the stuff. That is why just by being with Shirdi Sai Baba people attained the highest, not because he asked them to do so many things. He will ask them, “Okay, you sit here.” That’s all. Then what? Just sitting and connecting, that’s it. So rituals have no deeper value on an individual basis, unless it’s asked by the guidance by the Guru, “Do this.” That takes you to the next level. Otherwise, we become habituated. Habits are not good, whether they’re good or bad. Whatever enslaves you is not good. Whatever binds you is not good, in the spiritual path.


I would call Dattatreya as The Supreme Father, The Para Brahma; Because Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva. Brahma is the creator, Vishnu is the sustainer and Shiva is the dissolver. Those are three aspects of our life. That means we are born, we sustain our life, and then we die; three aspects of our existence are united into one saint, called Dattatreya, so that means He is The Supreme. But, Dattatreya also represents nature; because if people ask Him “Who are You?” He would say, “I am a worshiper of Nature.” So, Nature is the Guru for Him; He learned everything from the Nature. His Father is Atri Maharishi, and Mother is Anusuya. They were some of the most powerful saints who ever walked on Earth. So, Datta then incarnated into many bodies, later on – Shreebada Srivallabha, Narasimha Saraswati, Sai Nath Shirdi Sai Baba, Akkalkot Maharaj, Manik Prabhu, so many avatars he took, and each avatar is distinct. There are no two avatars in the same way. Each avatar came in a particular time, for a particular purpose – that means the body was taken for a particular duration. But each avatar has always been unique and distinct. Navnath1Datta Tradition is a continuation; it’s also interlinked with Nath Tradition, because Dattatreya formulated the Nath Tradition. Nath tradition is when you are fully in control of each and every vibration of yourself. The tradition is in such a way that you occupy the whole body on a cellular level, and your consciousness is interlinked. It is actually interlinked but we do not have conscious control, because the mind manipulates. Beyond the mind we go to the whole consciousness and in total control; you can be everywhere and you can be nowhere. Every possibility is in your hand. And there is always a natural shine on the way. Any Nath Guru you take – there is a shine, because actually they recycle the energy within all the time. Nothing is dissipated. Thoughts take energy, and then words and actions take energy away. This is all controlled in this tradition. It’s interlinked and Datta actually formulated the tradition. Also, Datta has many aspects, like He is a healer; there is a mantra particularly for the power of healing. Datta tradition is a particular tradition where the whole idea is to have a balanced life. It’s not just spirituality. See, you can be highly spiritual and very poor materialistically, it wouldn’t work. You need to be balanced in the material plane and balanced in the spiritual plane. Otherwise, what happens – there will be huge imbalance in existence. So in the tradition of Datta it never happens. There is always a balance in both ends – the material balance, and spiritual balance. Like Shirdi Sai Baba used to bless people with money, with health. But one thing you must understand – what you do, what you need for living, for comfortable existence, is rightfully yours. What is the excess should be used for higher purpose. If people start holding, the grace will go. So, you’re getting a million but your expense is a hundred thousand, you should use the rest for the welfare of the world. This is the understanding. But what happens is when money comes, then possessions come, materials come, people hold it, then they beat it. Then the downfall starts. So, many people do not understand that when they are with a Datta Guru, they get material benefits: salary gets increased, money comes, bonus comes, and all these things come, “Oh, I was waiting to buy a new car.” There’s no need for a new car, but they buy; likewise, a new house and expansion of property. They get immersed in material wealth. Then it’s a deviation from the spiritual. But the Guru will never object. The Guru cannot object. This is your free will. But your life depends on your free will anyway.

Mohanji quote - What you need for comfortable existence Why is it so rare to “know” Krishna?

Q: “Krishna said that of a million people one will look for Me. And of those one in a million, one will find me. Why is it so rare?”

A: Because of the Karma, the maya. See, delusion always stays, right? Right from out childhood until we die we think we are something, we feel we are something. All the time it’s relative truth. We are not actually catching the real truth. Krishna is the real truth. So, very few even get to know that there is a real truth apart from this relative truth. Very few people even get that thought, or emotion, that there could be something beyond all this, there could be something beyond what is in front of the eyes; there could be something which is extraordinary. We are so stuck with the ordinary. We are so stuck with our fears, phobias, conditionings, concepts. Beyond that, there is something much larger, but we don’t get that thought because we are so stuck with our routine, habitual stuff. Very very few people are able to go deeper and get it. Those people are very rare, and for them the thrust of karma will be less. So they’re not pushed into thinking, pushed into talking, pushed into action. Then they think, ”What else is there? What am I looking for?” or “Who am I?” this kind of stuff. Very few people have the notion and even if you have the notion it takes time to find the truth. First you have the thought: “Okay, there could be something else,” then you have the thought, “Oh, what is it? What is that thing which I’m looking for?” In spirituality they have already given the answer: Tat Tvam Asi, You are That. But it takes a lot of time to understand what you are. For an average seeker the main barrier is the form of the Guru, because he connects to the form first. Probably he is guided to the form with a few teachings, but when he reaches the form he gets stuck with the form. And then it takes a long time to go beyond the form to the truth. What is visual, what is audible, what is the fragrance, all these things are the first lures of our existence. You are to cross everything. And then you reach the substance which causes all this. So once the action goes to the cause of the action then you are transcended. Then from the cause you reach the super cause – the manifested cause to the unmanifested cause. Like that you transcend. It takes time. So when Krishna says, “Very few find me,” it’s 100% true. What is visual, audibla, fragrant are the first lures of existenceWhat are we like when we were in Vrindavan? Full of romance. We were seeing the romantic side of Krishna, the youth of Krishna, the dancing, the gopis, the singing, Radha. Radha is His consort. It fascinates, it gives a lot of joy, it gives bubbliness. But finally, they reach Krishna, the real Krishna, the one who has the capacity to deliver Bhagavad Gita. It’s not easy to deliver Bhagavad Gita. To analyze various aspects of existence in terms of the truth is not easy. We can only talk about relative truths all the time. Look at another aspect: you look at all seven billion people of the world – most are physical, they are only physical gratifications, extraordinarily physical gratifications. You can definitely say that their level of evolution is on that range; that can be good or bad in them. Good in the sense they are good in nature, bad is that they are pretty harmful in nature, so this is this way. Then you can see something slightly higher- an emotional growth. They operate in the emotional plane. So the largest is the physical then the emotional plane. And then you see a group who are on the intellectual plane. So it’s like a pyramid: physical, emotional, intellectual. Then again, from the intellectual people cross over to spiritual. By the time it will become a smaller triangle: the bottom is bigger, then the next, then the next, then the smaller triangle – spiritual is there. Then you cross over the pyramid. That is maybe one. Out of a million. Or ten out of a million, if you can be very optimistic. You understood how it works? So usually you are to cross over from physical, to emotional, to intellectual, to spiritual. When I say spiritual I mean real spiritual. In all these physical, emotional, intellectual there will be an element of spirituality, but what is that spirituality? Ritualistic, or given by somebody, or herd-following – one cow goes, every cow goes, or it can be out of fear, God-fearing. God is never to be feared, first of all. But, the herd of God-fearing is all from the lower level. Then there are “bookish knowledge”, they have quite a lot of knowledge and they say,“I have a lot of knowledge about spirituality,” this is somebody’s knowledge handed or taken over or acquired. And then they feed us. In emotional it’s bhakti – a lot of people chanting, they are emotional by nature so they like to chant, they like to pray, they like to visit temples, ring the bells-make a lot of noise, thinking God is happy. At all these three levels mostly people think that God is outside of you, God is away from you, and you are to make that God happy. They never think that God could be within us. For that you are to even cross over intellect, to really feel that God is inside. Whatever rituals we are doing is to awaken the God inside. That thought does not come in the physical, emotional, intellectual level. It comes only in the spiritual, also only in the higher levels of the spiritual, means you are to still evolve higher. There could be a bit of trial and error. If from intellectual you reach, like from Vedas to the Upanishads, like that you reach slightly higher. And then you start feeling, “All these deities are signifying various aspects of me.” The energy aspect can be considered as the mother, the yogi – the fully withdrawn and fully connected in the omnipresent aspect can be connected to Shiva. Like that we worship various deities because they represent various parts of our constitution. We are actually awakening that aspect in us. So when we are praying to a particular deity, when we are doing something for that, or chanting the mantras, that aspect is awakened in us. Mohanji quote - We worship various deitiesThat awareness happens much later. It takes time to know that. And once you are there, you are settled within, by the time you are inside – all settled. Because by the time you see everything inside, all the expressions on the outside you see as your own reflection. Then you are omnipresent, already expanded. If you are realized well, you will understand that this is how it goes. There is nothing to achieve outside. All the gods, all the goddesses are happy as long as you are happy. They are the reflection of you. By going and paying money to a temple no god is going to be happy. What will god do with the money? Priests will take it home, or the owner will take it home. No way the god is going to say, “Thank you for giving me a million, I’ll give you two million.”

Q: …“I will give you enlightenment. Haha… “

A: Are you asking for enlightenment? What is enlightenment at all? It’s just a word with a dictionary meaning for many people. People do not understand enlightenment. They think it is something which is: “OK, everybody is talking about it, you read books of Paramahansa Yogananda, books of Vivekananda, so it must be something great, let me also have it. I already had my Marutis, I already had my Mercedes-Benz, so now let me have enlightenment, that’s about it, that much. But I don’t want to leave my judging, censoring, criticizing mind.” Then how will you evolve? Mind is such a big trash can. All the trash is in the mind. You have to empty the mind and then throw the mind out. First of all you have to remove all the trash out from the mind, then throw the mind out. If you don’t have trash – you don’t need a trash can. Maybe you will have some trash in the future? Forget about it, you don’t have it. If you don’t have trash this week, you won’t have trash next week. Cause you will learn not to have trash. Once you learn to have no trash you don’t need the mind, mind will dissolve. You will not need a thing which is useless in your life. As simple as that. Truth is as simple as that. But we are actually going round and round and beating around the bush, unfortunately not knowing what we are looking for. And when you find it you don’t recognize it. You find your Guru but you don’t recognize Him because the image is not suiting the guru’s frame. It’s a tragedy. Why? Because you are mind-oriented. You are operating only from the mind. “I want my Guru to be a celibate, but I want to get married,” or, “Because the guru is married he should be a little less than the other gurus who are unmarried.” How do you know? Don’t judge another person from your perspective. That’s the biggest mistake you are doing in the spiritual path. You are to accept everything as it comes. If the teaching is good enough take it, if the teaching is not good enough – leave it. Nobody’s judging you, nobody’s criticizing you. It’s your journey, it’s your path. Nobody has the right to judge you, nor criticize you, nor control you.

Mohanji giving blessing through "Power of Purity" book

                Mohanji giving blessing through “Power of Purity” book

Transcribed by Barbara Dizdarevic

By mohansuniverse

Spirituality is You

Mohanji’s Satsang in Mumbai, Part 2
Date: 30th March, 2015
Venue: Life Positive Soul Space

Mohanji Satsang in Mumbai 2015(Laughter )
M: No no, I answered all your “stupid” questions on mail also, so let it be direct.
Q: As I understand, spiritual evolution or growth for liberation has nothing to do with materialistic things. And materialistic desires are always endless. But there are needs and wants in this life by human beings which can be satisfied only with material things. So does acceptance of this situation, as it is, put you into the correct spiritual track? Or does non-acceptance of the circumstances and working towards a better materialistic life make you spiritually regressive, or more greedy or selfish?
M: Who said this is a stupid question? Why you framed it before uttering? This is what we do, you know. We buy the frame in advance and then try to put the picture. If the picture is bigger than the frame, we cut the picture, we don’t change the frame. This is not a stupid question, this is a good question. Don’t underestimate yourself; I never underestimated you. You are a soldier (to someone on the side – “he’s a military man”).
You know, first of all, who’s deciding all this. Do you think you have that kind of choice? It’s a flow. Life is a flow, mostly predetermined. The thing called destiny – from your first heartbeat till your last heartbeat: done, decided. You will take birth at a particular time and you will die at a particular time; nobody can change it. I’ve written a story about it (In Search of The Precious – 3)


mahakaliWhen Mahakaali came, she saw one avadootha. Kaali said to him, “I want to give you a boon.” The avadootha said, “I don’t want your boon.” Kaali said, “No no, I am a goddess, and if I see a man, I give a boon.” The avadootha said, “I need nothing; I actually don’t have any needs.” But Kaali insisted on giving a boon, so he said “OK, give me one year more life.” She said, “No, I cannot do that. You already decided your fate before you came here; I cannot change that.” Then he said, “OK, give me one year less life.” Kaali said, “I cannot do that either. This is chosen, predetermined, destiny. You have to live your life as per your agenda”. Then he said, “One month more? One week more? One day?” Kaali said ‘No’ to all these questions. So he said, “Basically you have no power, so don’t give me a boon,” (loud laughter in the room).
So Kaali said, ”No no, you ask me something which I can give you.” The avadootha had elephantiasis on one leg. So he told her, “This leg is suffering for too long, so now please shift this to the other leg,” (laughter in the room). Note that he never asked for healing, you see.
Can I change this track, can I opt for that? These are all our mind projections. You are here now – this is your only reality. Even if you wanted to see Dhoom-3, it is not possible. Because you are here now. You have to listen to my bul.$..t. (loud laughter). There is no other way.
Now, spiritual path is part of you. There is nothing called spiritual path which is apart from you. You cannot create another path which is not yours. Spirituality is a kind of training, where you are trading your worries for emptiness, for peace. We use various methods for it – we go to temples, we go to gurus, we go on the knowledge path, we go chanting, seva, anything you like. So that at the end of the day, you become empty, you become purified and you become peaceful. This is spirituality. Ultimately, when you have no more desires, you don’t come back. This is what we are talking about, right?
In this mode, OK, I go materialistically – 10kmph speed, 100kmph speed. Do you think you can speed up like that? It depends on the road and on your car, and your capacity. This was chosen before. And it is happening at a time. What is happening right now is only happening right now. Tomorrow I’m in Delhi; I can’t speak to you, except on the phone of course. But this is the situation – we are here now. I am talking, you are listening. Between the “talking” and the “listening”, there is an essence called karma. Why I’m talking what I’m talking and why you’re listening to it is because of the karma. There’s no change to it. We have a notion that we can go material for some time and then we go spiritual for some time. Which is better? There is nothing like it. Everything happens at the right time in the right ingredients.
That is why I said it is not a bad question. You got the point?

Q: Somewhat.
M: Ask again, ask more.

Q: I have a follow up question. Whatever is this framework of destiny, how does free will play a role?
M: Let’s say you decide to make a house. You want a 21-bedroom house, a very big house. You tell the architect – here’s the money, this is what I want. In the middle, there should be an area with the sun coming down, on one side there should be a swimming pool, one bedroom should face a particular side… all these things, you tell him. Now it’s the architect’s job to make the design. He made the design and you approved it saying, “This is good,” and you give the approved blueprint to the builder. Builder started building it, and the house is built. Your money is spent, you are happy. Now if you want to change it, what would you do? You have to spend again, if you have that kind of money. Or you have to wait till a particular time when you can either sell it or you can change it over. This is exactly how life is. Your blueprint was done before your birth, the whole tapestry of life was decided. There is no free will amount later. That’s why the saints always say – you have power over destiny, provided your agenda changes. This changes sometimes. Kuppuswamy became Swami Sivananda. At one point in time, the same body, this path ended, another path began. And it completely deviated the whole track. And there is a fulfillment there. This is over – the commercial world is over, and the spiritual world opened up. That is a total deviation. This is possible, in the same body. But that is not possible as long as desires are getting built up.
So the house is an example of how you make your life. So where is the agenda coming from – it is pre-birth. After your death, before your birth, you decide, “This is what I want in life.” So many times, your decisions are going not so good, because the ingredients are like that, your data entry is like that. A person who says, “I don’t want to see this world, I don’t want to see,” will become blind in the next life, because he keeps projecting the image of not wanting to see. So subconscious takes it literally – “this person doesn’t want to see,” so that goes into the blueprint of not wanting to see. Again, in the next life, he is born blind. This is how the cycle goes. This is non-understanding. What you utter, “I hate this, I hate that,” those people will get those things. Some people criticize, some judge – all these things are detrimental because you are keeping those impressions inside. Everything in the elementary level is impression. That becomes an expectation, that becomes a concept, and that becomes a reality. This is how it’s evolved.

Mohanji quote - Spirituality is totally individualistic

Q: Do you have to be religious to pertain to spirituality?
M: No way. Religion is like a broad guideline. This is based on various people’s various experiences and a path is created. So for a normal person who doesn’t know where to go, can use the methods or activities of religions, or guidance for a certain result. But they are broad guidelines.
Spirituality is totally individualistic. You need to grow beyond any religious ritual to be spiritual. And how is that? It is internal exploration, not outside. Basically all religions tell you to go within, to love, to be kind, to be compassionate, to do charity. This is all good. But you have to evolve it yourself. Normally what happens is that people say, “Our religion has said this,” and they mechanically do a ritual. Nothing will happen, it is just entertaining the mind. “Oh, I went to the temple, church or mosque. Now I’m happy.” That’s it, but is there any inner transformation?
The whole idea about spirituality is silence within. Complete shanti, peace within, “Whatever happens outside, I am not affected.” Here, we are affected by everything. We have opinions, we judge, we indulge in criticism, we censor, we suppress. Then there is nothing, I mean, we’ve understood nothing. Religion is good, as long as there…I would say, even books that way – you can pick up something from a book. See, you can only eat as much as you can digest. Knowledge is also the same – you pick up something which you can digest and convert to experience. Otherwise it’s just knowledge sitting and people think, “I know so many things.” But what’s the use of that? When we die, it’s anyway all gone. But you can pick up something which will help you in the journey and experience it in its time. This is OK, this is very good. So books can be used as a guide and move on.
Q: What is confusing the state of the soul during birth?
M: Soul is not confused during birth. It is completely neutral. Birth is like releasing a car into the market. Another body coming into the world. But soul is just travelling, it’s going on. All the shocks are sitting in the constitution, or in the consciousness level. That is where all the impressions are stored. Otherwise the soul has no confusion. Soul is never confused, it is pure. Soul is a vehicle, soul is a carrier. In a way, it is like the petrol in your car. Soul has no interest in your destination, it just helps / aids the journey.
Q: Is it like the engine in a car?
M: No, engine has a role in the journey, engine is your brain. It propels your movement, but soul aids your journey. We drag soul into everything, you know. Soul will be laughing – look at what this fellow is talking (laughter). Just imagine all these things from the standpoint of the soul., “Look at this person thinking, all nonsensical thoughts. Because… You know, what is he doing? “
Q: Continuing the Kuppuswamy story, so was there a blueprint for him to become Sivananda?
M: Yes, there was. Blueprint is always there. Otherwise what happens is that at certain points, you edge towards a soul where you are available for dharmic activity. And then the soul is given back to the body. That is not a karmic life. That is a dharmic life. For the sake of preservation of dharma, you continue in the body. That has happened to many people; their expiry date was over, but they continued.
Q: Does that also happen if you don’t have any more desires?
M: Not necessarily. Desires are different. Even if you don’t have any more births or desires, sometimes you see, that is why some people get connected to powerful Masters and then they may say, “I might as well serve you”. So their life is extended just for the sake of serving. That happens, but then their whole awareness is there, they have a clear picture.
Q: When you say the blueprint is already decided – the start, the end and also the journey, does that mean that its not very important to work hard on whatever we’re doing in our daily life, to have aims and ambitions. Because everything is pre-decided. So how does this fall into place?
M: That is exactly what I was telling him. Even an activity is propelled. We do not know, unless you check astrology or something, what comes next. There is a surprise element in everyday life. That surprise element is connected with the mind and hope etc. and that propels you. Like, “I want to make money, I want to do this.” These thoughts are sprouting from a desire – “I want to make money, I want to enjoy this meal, I want to go to this place.” All these things are going on, they are sprouting from desires, or karma. So karma is what propels you. So if you want to sleep more, procrastinate, not do anything – that is also propelled by karma. Some people get very depressed when the astrologer says that for the rest of your life, you are doomed (ha ha). Then suddenly something happens in their life and they get totally rejuvenated. Then they will prove the astrologer wrong. The astrologer was wrong anyway (laughter). But what happened was that this was triggered by the force of destiny. So whether you want to work hard, or you want to sit idle, this is part of the agenda. That is not changeable. A particular information comes to you at a particular time, and that triggers an experience. And that experience provoked a certain emotion in you. And that emotion worked for sometime. And then that emotion went away – anyway emotion never stays for ever. Then you start doing something else. This all goes on and on. So if you have hyper-action in your life, it is chosen, you will not be able to sit idle, you can’t change that. It happens. One way or the other, it gets triggered.

Mohanji quote - Continue to flow
Q: People and situations happen in your life. And there’s this thing that they mirror what is inside. So if I am facing again and again a particular situation, where I’m feeling a thing, I’m feeling angry or frustrated…

M: Yes, that is a pattern, you’ve kept a pattern.

Q: And there is something in me which is mirroring outside. Is that true?
M: Yes, correct. You have collected a pattern. That’s what I said – impression. Impression is the first level. As I said, if I say “monkey”, you remember the picture and the characteristics of a monkey in your mind, when I just use the word. Like that, every time you are collecting impressions. So some people say – “All gurus are bad.” Definitely not. Who’s good, who’s bad? How do we know?
So these impressions are stored and we make them into concepts. We have made expectations, we have made certain theories in our mind. This is what we are manifesting. This is why being fluid is very important. A situation is not the same, time is not the same, people are not the same. Continue to flow. Even the same set of people in a different situation could be different. So we need to be fresh at every point in time. If you say, “This is how my life happens,” then you will be forced to continue that way.
Instead you choose, “OK, this is all happening, this is all projection of my own mind. There is no good or bad that way. Life is flowing,” and then you continue to act on that. Life definitely opens up. Even if it doesn’t open up, you will have lesser impact of it. Even if nothing is changing (which is unlikely), if it doesn’t impact you, you are immune. You are free.
Q: I will be a bit more specific. If I feel at any point of time that the situation doesn’t allow me to be free, to be the way I am, what I want to express, what I want to do, if I am not allowed to do that, if I feel that I can’t do that, I feel restricted. There are times in my life – and this is a pattern I’ve noticed, it’s coming from some impressions, I know this is a pattern, but I don’t know how to help myself.
M: Look, you cannot change the situation. Now it is night. I cannot make it morning, right? You have to use the situation as it is. This is unchangeable. But your approach can be changed. Being in the situation, being in the particular environment, with a particular knowledge, with a particular set of people, you choose to be objective. For example, this is what I could do and this is what I’ve done. I could have done better in a different environment, but I will do that later. So objectivity comes into play. When you are objective, there is no pain. You have done what you can.
If you could have done better, you would have done better. But you could not do better because the environment wasn’t helpful. See, I am sailing towards the east, but the wind is towards the west. I slow down, I cannot change the wind. Suddenly the wind changes direction, my ship is faster. Something like that.
So you need to use the environment to your advantage. With awareness. You need to be aware that this is the environment and this is OK. You’ll not kick yourself. Otherwise what happens is frustration, anger, and then you give it to somebody else. This is a cycle which happens.
You just say, “This is the best I can do,” and do your best. Maybe other people will offer their opinion that you didn’t do this well, etc. But that is their opinion. They didn’t understand the wind. They may say, “You should have reached earlier.” But that was impossible. So you do as per your capacity, as per your full capacity with full conviction without judging yourself or others, plus the lack of ownership, no ownership. You surrender whatever you do at the feet of the Lord – “Narayanaayeti samarpayaami” and then you do your best. So that karma does not get accumulated.

Q: What I am hearing is that there is a huge amount of illusion of choice that we have. Things actually happen. And that’s why you used to say – become more aware, so that you can allow things to happen. So I wanted to ask – nowadays I am finding it more and more difficult to meditate. Is meditation one way to increase your awareness?
M: Meditation is useless if you can’t meditate. (laughter). See, something is of value to you only if you can use it. So if you cannot meditate, accept that as your reality. It is not necessary to do anything which is not practical. See, you couldn’t meditate today. Doesn’t matter. That doesn’t diminish you or increase you. We need to accept spirituality or anything else as practical. In life, everything should be practical. “I’m able to meditate more today,” no problem, meditate. If you cannot meditate, don’t meditate. But one thing you can still do – Practice awareness. Feel yourself. Watch yourself. Witness yourself. Decide that no word will come out of your mouth without you being aware of it. Decide that no activity will happen from you without your mind being present with it. That is meditation, practical. If you do that in all your waking hours, you are fine. You’ll see how your awareness grows. And as your awareness grows, you will be meditating all the time. Perpetual meditation. This is the way to go.

Mohanji quote - Feel yourself watch yourself witness

Sitting down in meditation is possible. See, first of all, you are faking most of the meditation. During meditation, what are you doing? Your mind is going elsewhere, you are sitting here. This is what I am saying. You are real only when your mind is present here. Rest of the time, you are not real. Mind is elsewhere, and body is here. Only when body and mind are aligned, that is the time you are actually living. You are living only when your body and mind are together. Otherwise I am talking, your mind is elsewhere, what is the use? It’s all wasted, isn’t it?
I think we spoke about this earlier. Your practical time with me is when your mind is with me. Even if your body is away. We talked about it. The real time you are spending with me is when your mind is connected to me, not when your body is near me. This is the truth. So if you cannot meditate, its not a handicap. First of all, don’t have concepts that, “I must meditate.”
Some people send me messages, “Mohanji, I am ashamed to come to you because I don’t practice your meditation!” I said, “I am not asking you to meditate anyway. Why are you ashamed?” I never bound anybody with anything. This is not my path. I say, “The meditation is available. You want to meditate, you meditate. If it helps you, do it. But basically it’s your growth.”
Spirituality is an individualistic thing. You cannot absorb it from another person. You can probably take a cue. But if you follow someone else, if he jumps into a well, you’ll also jump into the well. That way, it will not work. You need to adapt it to your thing. You bought the cloth, you stitch it as per your size. This is the way it should happen. So spirituality is like an ocean. You take the water from it as per the utensil you have. And use it, so that there is no guilt, no fear, nothing. There is no need for any of this…
Q: No judgement.
M: Yes, no judgement. And never do anything because Mohanji said so. Mohanji can say anything. Can you do all those things? That is not the point. The point is whether it is suitable to you. Anything for that matter. In life, if you decide like that, life will be much more free. You will learn to say ‘No’ to many things. Otherwise, you would go, “This man is saying many things. It is important, I must listen.” Not so. The point is, does it suit you? Can you do it? For example, if I am giving a great curry and meal, which is amazing, you know, like royal family stuff. But it doesn’t suit your stomach. What will you do? It can be anything like this, you know. This is the thing.
Understand: spirituality is you. Not a part of you. It is nothing outside of you. It is you. Then the whole answer comes. The right answer comes to you. The right guru comes to you. This is what I always say, “The guru that appeared to you is the guru for you.” Why? Because if you chase, what will you chase? First of all, you do not know which standard you are going to enter. The guru knows. We always want to enter the post-graduation standard. But we haven’t completed the 10th class. One guy was saying, “I wanted admission in IIT, but I didn’t complete my 10th. They didn’t give me”. I said, “Beautiful” (laughter). He said his biggest ambition was to be in IIT, but he couldn’t overcome the hurdle of 10th . This is how it goes. (laughter)

Mohanji quote - Understand spirituality is you
Audience: We can request you to give a double promotion. (laughter)
M: The guru can get that (ha ha).
It’s like that – in one comedy programme, one guy is sitting on the side of the road with a lot of amulets. It was written that if you wore that amulet, you would attract a lot of money. And there was a queue of people standing to buy this. You have to tie it on your body and you will get money. So one guy was asking, “So if I wear this, I will get a lot of money?” The seller says, “You will get nothing, but I already got money.” (loud laughter). This is the way we are!
Doctor says that you should jog for one hour. So we get somebody to jog and we sit at home. Spirituality has become like that. You pay the money to the guru or to the priest and say, “You please talk to God and get that for me.” (laughter). It never works like that.

Recorded and transcribed by Madhusudan Rajagopalan

By mohansuniverse

One with God

From Satsang in Cape Town, and Sediba Retreat in Johannesburg, South Africa in September, 2013

Be Based in the Spine

Awareness is almost like your shadow. It follows you, always ready for you to tap into. But we don’t know that it follows us :) , we don’t look at our own shadows. We do not even remember that there is a shadow, so we don’t tap into it, we get caught up into daily life. Once this is conglomerated, we are complete again. This is why it is important to base oneself in the spine. We have to shift from the front to the middle. Anxieties, fears come into us making us vulnerable, incapacitated, disabled, only when you operate from the front. The same things cannot touch you when you are based in the spine. Try it, you will know.

Mohanji quote - Awareness is almost like a shadow It follows you

I’ll give you another example:
When you sit down quietly, just sit down quietly and feel the spine, any part of your spine. Automatically your consciousness would have shifted to the third eye, the space between the eyebrows. This is the proof. We go beyond the normal senses to the higher dimension. Third eye is a higher dimension, it is the pathway to the higher dimension. We have that faculty within us, you don’t need any religion, any guru, any guide, anybody to tell you this, because you are complete. This is the truth. All of us are complete. Gurus and masters are road signs, they just tell you this way you go to reach the destination. It’s up to us to walk. This is an individual journey. Because we came as individuals. We were born alone, we will die alone, we are experiencing various aspects of relationships while we are here.

Stop Cruelty to Animals

When we walk, so many insects get crushed, not deliberately. Deliberately is not good, like, if you want to crush an ant, it’s not a good idea. That amounts to murder. But sometimes nature uses you for spontaneous removals, this is OK. Because you are just being an instrument. Nature uses various materials for its balance. Maybe you will be one of them. That is OK. But look at the animals. They have a clear-cut definition of stuff, like, they do not kill for pleasure. They kill because they are hungry. When they are not hungry, they do not touch anybody. You can see a lion sitting and watching a deers walking. The deers know the lion is not hungry. At the same time, when a hungry lion comes, they are all bold, they go. Also, any being kept in captivity, suffers. Their death is not at all smooth. But if it’s a war, it’s a different feeling. Like in the forest, a lion hunts a deer, that’s a game between them, because it’s supposed to be. And there is an element of sacrifice in it. The deer says, “All of you go, I’ll sacrifice, so that you can escape.’’ And they know that this is the equation. But when we capture, and kill,… one third of the total grain that we use in our Earth, what we produce is for cattle. It is like ten pounds of grain produce one pound of flesh. How much of wastage! If that much grain is given to poor people, there will be no famine or no starvation on the Earth. This is all bad, this is manipulation. Because of the taste of our tongue we grow cattle and we kill them, this is very bad and is affecting our society, these are bad vibrations. Millions of pregnant cows are killed in countries. It’s cruelty, absolute cruelty. We can never agree with it. And one of the most beautiful relationship of the world, because we experience relativity more on relationship basis, one of the most beautiful relationship in the world is mother and child. And we segregate the child from its mother, this is cruelty. Mother does not get to see the child! It’s not able to give its milk. Agony! And they cry, and cry… And if it’s a male calf, it is assassinated within three days. During these three days, they don’t even feed them! Mother is crying and crying for the child, and the child has already been transported for killing. This is cruelty. This is atrocious. These kind of vibrations can never help the Earth. It brings more and more agony and tragedy. Because the Earth catches vibrations. It catches the subtle vibrations and stores them, and creates events. So much such killing, just imagine! It creates further and further agony.

dairy. industry

Q: What happens to your body when you eat meat?
A: When you eat meat? First of all, meat has no prana. When you take a picture of a person, you can see aura, right? It is prana. But in the meat, which is dead organism, there is no aura, there is zero prana, it goes into the stomach and sucks all the prana which is available for digestion… and it takes more than it gives. If it’s a vegetable, even if you cut it, e.g. a tomato, and take a picture, it has prana. So that gives prana when it is in the stomach. This is one aspect.
Another aspect is, when an animal dies, it dies with a lot of pain and fear. Because it has got central nervous system, it’s not like a vegetable. fruitVegetables are usually like our nails. Mother plant produces a mango, or a tomato, for further generation, reproduction, so that further plants are produced and further mangos or tomatoes happen. It doesn’t get hurt when you pluck a tomato. It is like cutting your nail. This way is fine. But for an animal, it goes through tremendous fear and pain because it has central nervous system and it suffers a lot. So what happens when you are afraid? You shrink. Your stomach becomes all churned up. When you face sudden fear, what happens? The whole system becomes shaken up. The same thing happens to the animal. They become tremendously shaken up. The toxins are released into the blood stream, and that affects the meat. So what comes into us is meat with toxins, and on a subtle level elements of fear, agony, victimhood. That merges with our constitution. So we tend to create further cancer, not only physically, but cancer in our character, behaviour, in all these levels. Plus there is no prana. So overall it is negative.

The Nature of Maya

Maya actually means non-realism or non-truth. Truth is one. E.g. there is no you separate from Mohanji. This is the truth. It means physical body is separate. You took the physical body because you wanted to experience what you experience in life, but consciousness-wise, you can’t have a separation. That is the truth. Maya makes you feel we are separate. Maya gives the illusiary side of the existence. The same thing happens in our mind, that is why mind is the child of Maya. For example, mind controls even our laughter. Sometimes, even if there is the greatest of jokes, we fail to laugh because mind gives you some other input. The situation is nice, it’s comical, but mind is giving you a different vaccine, so you fail to laugh. It happens many times, that the truth is in hand, but you fail to see. That is not your fault, that is because mind did not allow you. So mind is the Maya there. Mind is the illusion there, so you could not see this thing.

Q: Illusion of separation?
A: Illusion of separation, illusion of non-identification or non-understanding, basically illusion of ignorance. This is the right word. Because the truth is one, which is the same for everyone, it cannot be relative. Like the taste of the food actually has to be the same, but each time it has different understanding of the taste and sometimes rejection as well. That doesn’t mean that the food is the culprit there. Our level of awareness is the culprit. Our capacity for assimilation or capacity to understand is different. At that time mind has a big role to play. That is why we categories between spiritual teachers, too.


Mohanji quote - What is actually the core of spirituality 1

What is actually the core of spirituality? To be one with God. There is nothing else you need to know in spirituality. If you ask, the answer would be in a word – liberation. There is nothing else you need to know or do. But why do we go through various processes? Because we try to take detours from the mind. And mind also plays all with us. It takes you on detours. Finally mind becomes tired. Then we reach the absolute truth, “Oh, it was so close!” Many times it happens like that, “Oh, I knew it!” until other person tells you. But we fail to see it. That is not our incapacity, that is the way our state is made. Our state is like that, it gives that feeling and it gives many inputs. Physical possibilities, spiritual, emotional, intellectual, every aspect has a contribution to it, which alienates you from the truth. But truth can never be two. Truth has to be one, but we fail to see because that is the state we are operating in.
One more thing, there is a lot of difference between stature and status. You can buy or probably acquire state. Like if somebody gives you a title, that is a good thing, but stature has got to be earned. Stature is something where you stand or where you are operating from, which level is your level of operation, that has to be earned, which means you have to reach there, and for that reaching you have to dissolve yourself. If you dissolved your identities quite a lot, then what fills in is more of a cosmic identity, or a consciousness of a larger nature. If you always exist as your limited identity, then you and that are always separate. The moment you start dissolving, you become like a candle, you melt and melt and become just light, only that, emptiness. If you are separate from another, there is always a comparison, there is always non-understanding. But when you become one with it, even mentally,… Like, how do you unite? People get married, as they have some compatibility which they feel they have, and that brings them together, and then they go on for some time until they realise it is not so true :) but illusion stays for some time, right? That time is enjoyable. That is what life is all about. You cannot ask for permanent enjoyment, because we hop from pleasure to pleasure, not perpetual happiness. This is the difference. When we move from one pleasure to the other, there is always deep decline. But when we are in perpetual happiness, that means we are self-reliant, self-sufficient, we operate in our own strength, that time happiness is perpetual because it is not dependent on anything. Expectation level is low. Satisfaction level is high. This is the point here. When life gives you a sting in the tail, then we are suddenly jerked, we feel we have to do something. At that point in time if you take it as, “OK, this is an opportunity, completely dark, but it’s fine,” then we start looking for the matchbox and finally we find the light, that is a different room, a different scenario, probably different set of people, different life. It is probably reinvention. And that reinvention is always good for life because you transform yourself. You shift yourself to the next level. Sometimes life gives that, kicks your butt, because you transform yourself, you shift yourself to the next level. Life kicks your butt, you can’t handle it, you are forced to shift. But if you shift with awareness, this is better, so that your equilibrium is always maintained. It is not that you are put into the forest and you are fighting for your life. That is different. But you went into the forest saying, “OK, let me navigate through it,” and use your skills to go through, that brings you more power. Both are going into the same direction, but the positive one is the one with more awareness, which means you are using your awareness to navigate. This is more important than to be pushed into it. Destiny pushes you, that is also possible.

Liberation is the Path and the Destination.

Q: After liberation…
A: Let me correct the question. What we are is liberation. What we are after is nothing. Liberation is the path and the destination and we are liberated. That is why no binding, no liberation. “I am already Shiva, but that understanding is not happening.” That is exactly what we are trying to achieve on any spiritual path. That’s not true. We are already liberated. We are completely liberated, this is the truth. But because we are operating with the mind factor, mind does not allow to clearly feel it, experience it. That is why this question happens.

Q: Are liberation and enlightenment the same thing?
A: No. Liberation and enlightenment are not the same thing. Enlightenment is like graduation, the state where you are able to understand things from a higher perspective. But that does not mean you are liberating yourself completely from that state and going. You still have to be liberated from enlightenment, to dissolution. It means you are completely nullifying yourself, dissolving yourself, and becoming one with the cosmic energy which you can call Father or Parabrahma or God… So enlightenment takes you to the level of awareness where you don’t normally fall down again. But you still have the body, activities of the body, you will be hungry, you will have to go to toilet, you will have to take a bath, you will probably have some of emotions as well. But again, you are operating from a higher perspective, the higher level, so the impacts are different, things are less. It is like you have graduated, you will not go back to the tenth class again. There is no need to go back. Like that, graduation or post-graduation is like a state. Enlightenment is a state. In that state you are a different person, you will probably be able to see in 360 degrees, you are able to perceive more than you see, all these faculties will work. But again, liberation means complete moksha. Liberation means dissolving and going. You have nothing to do with the Earth. You want nothing from here. Nothing here pleases you, makes you happy. It doesn’t mean that if you want to have a cup of coffee, you don’t have it. Nothing is binding you. Nothing is making you hooked to the Earth. You reached that plane, “I am happy, I am always in bliss state, and then I merge with the consciousness of the God. Like Krishna says, “You can worship any deity, but you are coming to me anyway.” So all deities are expressions of one consciousness, supreme energy, any form is representation of supreme energy. Form is conglomeration of energy. Matter is conglomeration of energy. All the matter you see around is conglomeration of energy. If you go to atom level and dissect the atom, it becomes raw energy. So this is the truth of existence. In that level, you become completely disintegrated, you become light body, you become subtle, and you are ready to merge, expand into the ocean. The drop becomes the ocean. That is not enlightenment, that is beyond enlightenment. You have to be established in enlightenment and then you utterly have to shed. That is why seva or service has a lot of value. When a person does a lot of service to the humanity, to the people, animals, birds, at that time big cleansing happens and detachment happens. And then the path is easier. That is why many of the gurus insist on serving when you are evolving, it goes hand in hand. When you become more and more helpless, it helps the dissolution. It’s enlightenment, too.

Mohanji quote - Liberation means dissolving and going

Q: So, with enlightenment there is a possibility that you can drop back, but not with liberation?
A: No, with enlightenment it is very unlikely that you will drop back. There are two things. Like, you become another, some time. That can cause your fall. Like, some people get attracted to you because of your energy and your power. And you can probably become that person for some time, or reflect that person. That is a falling in an overall thing. But I do not think that you will ever fall from the state, you are probably taking a temporary detour. This is my opinion. You are not per se falling. But in the path, you can fall many times. Until you reach that state, until you reach the plateau and get established there, there are a lot of opportunities of falling. You see that in all the seekers, they climb so much and fall, then they climb so much and fall again… That is because of the play of the mind. Mind manipulates you, then you fall, then you climb up… but your guru is with you aiding you, helping you, holding you. That faith in the guru and faith in the path will help you. Now if you do not have a physical guru, if you have faith in the path, gurus will come and help you.

Q: And if one is a spiritual traveller, not in the sense of human activities, but the ability of enlightened soul to travel the dimensions beyond mind…?
A: I feel that would be a wrong understanding, in the case of absoluteness. Because you need to have a unit to move anywhere. If you expand beyond this form, then where are you moving? The state of Parabrahma is immovable. State of soul in reality is immovable. A soul, when sitting in the body, the whole substratum, the whole configuration is moving. And then we have the false feeling that soul is moving. But the soul is connected to the supreme God, and that is immovable, omnipresent, present everywhere like air, an aspect of air can move but air itself is not moving.

Q: The soul does not have light body or shed body as well?
A: They can dissolve back in the ocean, then you would not even know the identification. If you become the ocean, then there is only vibration, not a movement. But if you choose to stay in the unique form of whichever capacity, whether it is a human body, or another body, or no body, if you choose to have unique form, then you can have motion, because then you are still in the realm of relativity i.e. you can move from here to there. But if you are fully expanded, where are you going to move? You are already everywhere! That is the structure of God, right? The supreme Father is everywhere. There is nothing beyond Him. Everything is formed out of Him, and all the matter you see is the reflection of him. And in that level the matter can move. Because the matter is only representing him and it can move and it has got a mobility because it operates on relativity, it operates on duality. But once you merge with the whole consciousness, you become one with the universal consciousness, you have no identification any more, you do not exist as a unit, where will you move from where? It’s only omnipresence.

Q: Beyond universal consciousness?
A: There is nothing beyond universal consciousness. Universal consciousness is the supreme. And also there are layers of that. But you can never understand that using your intellect, because the stature of God has to be experienced. Until you become that, you will never know. For example, what is Mohanji’s consciousness that you saw? You will never understand by seeing a video until you become me. Once you become me, “Oh, OK, this is the game,” you understand. I am saying on the minimum level. That is the same as Krishna’s consciousness, Jesus’s consciousness. That is why people criticise. Why do we criticise another person? Because of ignorance. We have set certain norms and we expect a person to operate in that level because we don’t understand his consciousness. Can you put Krishna into any slot? Impossible, because they operate beyond that slot anyway.

Q: Once the soul completely merges with the universal consciousness, becomes that, can you go back in the real body?
A: You can, because consciousness has multiple dimensions, you can extract yourself and bring yourself back. But it may not be to the Earth plane. What will you do here? It may not be on the Earth plane, it may be on the more purposeful level. Like, you have to do some activity, or something is important, or on a cosmic plane there is validity for that activity, you may withdraw yourself from the ocean and become a unit and come back and merge again. At that time there is no karmic binding. Karmic binding is usually related to the body. Or in other planes, also, there are certain planes where karma works, but again that is related to a particular unit, or form and it has a duration as well, a particular longevity, from now to then. Understand one thing. Whenever you rent a car, it has duration, time span, you can’t keep it forever unless you buy it. Body is like a rent-a-car. This body is occupied for a certain period of time. It could be one year, two years, ten years, hundred years. But beyond that, you have to turn it back to where it came from. Even if you buy a car, you will probably have to change it, right? Similarly. That is the understanding we must have when we move on.

Q: But understanding must translate into experience.
A: That is exactly what we are striving for. That is why we are talking. First is the knowledge, then comes the wisdom. If knowledge does not get converted into wisdom, it’s absolutely useless. It’s a bothering for other people, ha, ha, keep talking what we do not know. Most of the time we talk what we do not know, because we collect book knowledge, and we articulate it, but with zero experience. If you do experientially, you may not even talk! Or if you experienced it you may not articulate it.

Q: You said when you reach enlightenment, chances for falling are almost none. Before that, climbing and falling, climbing and falling… Is the value of climbing and falling again and again in increasing awareness?
A: In principle yes, but sometimes it doesn’t happen. Because if the mind is ruling, it will keep on shifting the goal post. That is where you fall. And by the time you are ready to score the goal, the goal post has moved. This is the play of the mind. The mind is making that happen. That is usually reason why you fall. Actually speaking, the main reason for everybody’s fall from the progress is the mind.

Mohanji quote - Mind is our medium to the world outside

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