Life is for Fulfilment

Rose Bank Satsang with Mohanji in Canada on 23rd August 2015, part 1

How can you be peaceful when society is like this? You can do this by being connected to your inside more than to your outside.

Q: What is the purpose of life and is the purpose the same for everybody?
A: The answer will depend on which context you are talking about. If it is from the angle of karma, the purpose is the same for everybody. That means exhausting karma, exhausting desires, fulfillment, happiness. That is the core reason for every incarnation. Every birth is for this purpose. Fulfilment is the purpose. But it depends on which aspect you are talking about. What is the purpose of the body? To feel the Earth, to feel the sensations, to feel whatever you can feel using the body. What is the purpose of the mind? To experience sensations, emotions… What is the purpose of the ego? Ego’s purpose is to maintain your identity. When it becomes swollen, it maintains its identity in a somewhat larger way 🙂 so it’s a nuisance for other people. What is the purpose of the intellect? Knowledge, accumulation of knowledge, collection of knowledge. So the purpose depends on which level we are talking from, which level we are operating on.
What is the purpose of the soul? The purpose of the soul is to go through this process and get back to where it came from. That is total and complete liberation.
Everybody’s purpose of life is fulfillment. But individual purpose differs. My fulfillment might be different from yours. What I came for might be different from what you came for. You can never generalise. 7.3 billion people and all the other beings have come for something. That is exactly your purpose of life. Whichever path or track of karma that destiny takes you on is exactly the purpose of existence. If you are looking for a purpose larger than that, then you may take another birth. Purpose is not different. What you are experiencing today is exactly the purpose. Because destiny takes you to the level of purpose. There are no two things about it. You cannot change it. What you are, what you will be and what you can be, is all determined. Decided. You cannot be or do something else. You cannot be at a different place. It’s impossible because the path of destiny is clearly defined. In that mode your path is clear, your purpose is clear. Is the purpose the same for everybody? It cannot be. Becauase then there would only be one person. If everybody were a doctor, an engineer, or a captain of ships or aircraft, do you think life would work? We have a huge variety and we need it. Thus everybody’s purpose and everybody’s fulfillment is not the same. Similarly, say I kept a lot of dishes here, with a variety of food. Each of you will have different food, right? Not everybody will choose the same food. Why is it so? It’s because we all have a different orientation. Our creation is like that. We have been created like that. We have our likes and dislikes, characters, constitutions. Everything has a distinction. This is how creation has happened, and so we choose only as per our orientation. There cannot be a generalisation. There can be resemblances, but none are exactly the same. You are you. Other people may resemble you, but they are not exactly you. That is why this question has been answered in this way.
In simple terms, the purpose of existence is fulfilment of karma, and whether all people’s purpose is the same, in that context YES, it’s the same. But is the fulfilment the same? The answer is NO. Fulfilment has to be different.

Q: Why is it that we sometimes feel that we lack something? We have family, children, jobs, but why is there still a feeling that something is missing?
A: There are a few reasons for this, at various levels.

On the one hand, imagine you have evolved from a level of awareness where you found your happiness in some of these things. Then you went above it. You evolved beyond it. You clearly understood or you realised that it’s all about role-play. You are playing the role of a mother, wife, an employer, or an employee, a shopper… At every level it’s a role-play, and nothing is permanent. So when you start connecting to the real you which is beyond all this role-play, sometimes a vacuum happens. This is because you are used to a certain pattern, and then that pattern is annihilated. Then you will come to a realisation, an awareness that this may not be me. Then, for some time before you actually enter into silence, there could be a vacuum.
On the other hand, there could be expectation. Imagine your expectations constantly get defeated. For example, you expected to be a doctor, but eventually you became a teacher. You wanted to marry somebody whom you like, but you married somebody else. Like that, all these major things are getting defeated or diverted. Then you reach a stage where you think, “Nothing in life is per my plan!?“ That is happening because we have expectation. What you chose before birth, is what you got. However, you may not get what you’ve chosen with your mind, because the mind may not understand the whole picture. What has to happen will happen. What you’d love to happen, may not happen. Again a vacuum situation happens. You will probably become dull or resigned about the whole thing.
You can see this in animals before slaughter. When they understand they are going to be killed, some become violent and cry and shout and try to break free, while others understand they are going to be killed and just walk through the death. There are both reactions. We humans, also operate similarly in the same situation. We either accept the situation and move on, or we resist and make a lot of issues. That is when a lot of emotions come. The blame game comes. When we are completely resistant to what is happening all around, within us, around us, then resistance happens. That resistance then creates pain. When we constantly resist, life becomes a bundle of emotions. There is no positivity in it. It is all just a rolling of emotions in different forms.

Q: How do you overcome this?
A: Awareness. You need to be aware. When you know you are playing a role and that the role is changing at at each point in time, and that the experiences are different, then you start floating over it.

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Watch yourself playing the roles…

It means you are always watching yourself playing the role. Sometimes emotions will come and go. Nothing stays. In this way, you are constantly connected to the clear and permanent in you, but at the same time you are not affected by the temporary. The temporary is coming and going, it’s floating, you are floating to it, but at the same time you are not disconnected from it. It means you are not hating it, you are not resisting it. Nothing in you blocks anything. It is all floating, “Ok, I’ve seen all this, it’s ok, it doesn’t matter. I am none of this. I could be part of this, but I am none of this.“ That awareness changes your whole outlook. Then there is no resistance. There is no pain. Only when there is resistance, is there pain. If there is no resistance, there is no pain.

Q: We have mostly come from India. We migrated and stayed in Canada. There is a vacuum though. On the one hand, India is a land of so much spirituality, which never flourishes. People are more oriented towards material aspects, when they are supposed to be more humble, more spiritually oriented. On the other hand, people in Canada or western countries are more humble, and more loving, yet they don’t have any idea about spirituality. Why does that happen?
A: It’s a socio-psycho situation. When you are away from something, you understand the value of it. Sometimes when we are together with a person, for example with somebody in the house, especially elders, we take them for granted. They are kept on the bookshelf (ha, ha). We don’t really worry about them too much. But the moment they pass away, then we feel their absence. In the same way, we have close relationships or associations, but the moment the person leaves us, we feel we miss them. Likewise most people do not really practice religious worship. By worship, I mean systematic religions. However, they are religious. They are not aware of it. They are just following somebody’s rituals. “His grandfather was doing it, his father was doing it, my father is doing it, I am doing it.“ But they do not know whether this is valuable or not. Whether there is a reason for it. Somebody would have told them that if they did not pray to God, He would be unhappy with them. So a bit of fear, a bit of routine, and the activity goes on. One can see a lot of ritualistic bhakti in India. That brings aversion to a lot of people. Which God is binding you? People who are educated will ask the question, “How come that God is unhappy with my not going to the temple?“ If God is dependent on me, why should I be dependent on God? Such questions will come. So that is wrong understanding. This is mostly created by astrological priesthood. Community creates all this kind of thing, “If you don’t do this, God will punish you, or will be angry.“ The fear factor is thus created so that they can make money. However when you step outside and come to another country, you see the whole tapestry in a different way, the structure, the upbringing, or religious methods. Then you start realising that the real India is the spiritual India. All that you see outside are just fakes or masks of India. However you need to go outside to see inside. Sometimes it is the main thing. Though you may not see it when you are there, when you come outside and look back at it, you say,“Look here, this is beautiful! I never saw that when I was there.“ Nostalgia is part of that. When you do not have it or when it is not happening, at that time you feel, oh this is very important. Each time it’s like that. Ultimately the fundamentals of the Hindu tradition are all about liberation. If you had to sum up the Hindu tradition in one word – it would be liberation. For all aspects whether it is the tantric, ritualistic, vedic, upanishadic aspect… everything you take, the end story is – be liberated. Be liberated means that you should be liberated at this point in time, not when you are dying. At the time of death you cannot guarantee liberation. You should be liberated right now. Every aspect, puja, ritual, knowledge, every aspect of bhakti, is all pointing to, is all equal to liberation. However, when you are occupied with this religious mode activity, you may not know that this is the reason for it. Whether you are doing a shrad, a puja or performing a wedding, a mantra, everything is talking about completion, liberation. Let this aspect be complete. So it is for every aspect of your existence, whether it is brahmacharya, grihastha, or vanaprastha, every level. Vanaprastha doesn’t mean going to the forest. It means to detach from everything around you. So in every aspect it says, “Let there be completion and fulfillment so that you are liberated. If you take everything, for example parenthood or eating food as liberation, then you are living the life of a proper Hindu. Hindu means ’ha’ sun, ’indu’ moon. Combined together it means Hindu. Your heat and the cold part of you are actually united, you are Hindu i.e. your ida and pingala nadis are in full order. They are operating in the actual capacity. So the sun side of it and the moon side of it, the male and the female are together, you are in balance. This is the Shiva and Shakti aspect. Then you are a Hindu. It’s not a religion. It’s a state. Hindu is a state, not a religion. Once we understand that, we will go beyond all the rituals. Then there will be no fear, because fearlessness is our state. We can’t have fears. What is it that we are afraid of? Nothing. There is nothing to be afraid of. Where there is fear or unhappiness, or insecurity, there is non-understanding. If you are truly connected to God, if your path is liberation, every moment is fulfillment. There can’t be anything else, because everything is provided – time, space, the situation, understanding, intelligence, body, mind, intellect. Everything is provided so that you attain fulfilment every moment whether it is good or bad.
Coming back to your point. When you are in your country, you are worried more about gas cylinders, pipes, the electrician, the lightning, thunder, earthquakes, all of these things. However, when you are away, you don’t look at all those things. You look at the beauty aspect of it – a great country, a great culture, the tradition of liberation… This tradition of liberation is not happening in many places. Some people have asked me,“Why are there so many masters in India?“ I said, “The environment makes them happen.“ The environment provides facility for it. In many places you need to compromise to be in society. You cannot be clear and free. Thus how can you express? There have been great masters in every country, in every community, but they all have had to compromise with the current ministers or kings or religion. The people who created religions were enlightened. They were of high order. But those who interpreted it later on, were not of high order. The great masters who guided people in life were powerful. They knew exactly what they were talking about. They were of high order. However, later on, others used their teachings but with a different interpretation, and they used the teachings to bind. Friedrich Nietzche’s philosophy was good, but Hitler used it for a different purpose. Can you control it? This is exactly how everything is manipulated. Somebody asked me,“Mohanji can you guarantee that what you are teaching will stay after your death?“ I said, “I cannot even guarantee now!“ (laughter) What people are saying about my teachings now I do not know. The interpretations change as per the mind. The minds pick up what they would like to pick up, and use it. How could I change it? How could I control it? Similarly, the words we use can be either misinterpreted or properly interpreted. If you remember the last time I came to Canada one person asked me, “ You said the soul is already liberated. Then why are you saying ’a good soul’?“ That’s a usage. It’s not literally, you are not going deeper and saying ’your soul’. That’s not what we mean. ’Good soul’ means a good person. So understanding changes with the word, sometimes we use it to represent something…
I was talking to a saint during Kumbh Mela. I was giving a lecture, and there were various spiritual saints. I asked them,“Why do all people unite? What is the purpose? The purpose of being in society in whichever capacity is to elevate the awareness of the people. Thus if you are not worried about your name, fame, money, position, whatever, everybody can be together and just raise the awareness of society. Many of them do not come together because they are on various paths. However, if your only aim is to elevate the awareness of society, everybody can be together! All religions can be together! However religions are dividing people now for the sake of money, power, position. Then how do we attain liberation? What has happened everywhere, is that the politics and culture have become that of greed. Everywhere, not only in India. That is being reflected. The times are being reflected in every location. The sign of the times is one of greed, conquest, possessiveness, owning and ownership. I was talking about ownership, about parents owning the children. What ownership do you have? The children chose the parents. The parents did not choose the children. It is not like going to the supermarket and choosing. It’s the children that choose the parents. It’s probably not a conscious choice, or we can say the prarabdha made it happen. However, the truth is that we have no control over them. They have come with an agenda, they used part of you to come to the world for their own gratification. Similarly, we have absolutely no control over anybody. We don’t even have control over our own mind. We do not know what we are going to think in the next moment. That being the situation, what are we controlling at all? People change their minds, people change their behaviour, society changes, country changes, we talk about so many changes. We do not have a grip on any of these. In this way, erosion has affected everything, even philosophies. That is why I said every Yug has its flavour – the time of Ram, the time of Lord Krishna, the time we live in. Each Yug, each era, has a different flavour. So we are experiencing the flavour of Kali Yug where bribing is a normal thing. People bribe without any conscience. It goes like that. India, being Indian, Bharat, it’s a mixture of bha (God) and rat (love). It’s an amazing country, but sometimes you need to go outside of it to see it.

Mohanji quote - If you are truly connected to God

Destiny vs. Free will

Q: If there is free will, how does it happen that there is destiny which is pre-decided? If you can choose each moment to go left or right, how is it pre-decided? Are all these detours we make chosen as well?
A: What you transacted before you chose this incarnation is free will. Before you manifested in the womb of your mother, you had already traded it. As the cost was an incarnation, the choice was 100% free will. Before you took the decision for manifestation or incarnation, you had to make a plan about why you were going to Earth. This was decided in the astral plane. The question was, “Why are you going?“ You said,“I have a lot of things to do. A lot of experiences are pending.“ “Ok, in that case, you make the plan for how many years you will live, where you will live, what you will experience, who you will live with, who are the people you are going to meet, what sort of experiences you are looking at.“ Everything is defined. Once it is defined, and once you lock it, you are ready for incarnation. The rocket is ready. Then you manifest yourself. At that point in time i.e. from the time of birth, till the time of death, it’s chosen. That is the part of destiny, in Sanskrit we call it prarabda. Prarabda is fixed.
Then in your whole aspect, your body, mind, intellect and ego are a mixture. You are a mixture of these things. There is also a part called the soul. This ’man’ has full free will. He can decide ’I’m leaving’ and leave the body – finished! ’He’ can leave the body behind and go but ’he’ doesn’t do that. Why? Because the pact is that, “I will continue till the end.“ It means we agreed on a journey, “Ok, I’ll come with you“, so the soul stays on. But the soul definitely has 100% free will saying, “I have been on this journey over thousands of life times, so now it’s time“. That is why the soul pushes you towards liberation saying,“Ok, just watch and listen. Go meditate somewhere. Detach from all this mess. You’ve been through this many times.“ We do not know however because we closed that gate before we came. We do not know what happened in our past life and what provoked a new birth. However the soul knows because the soul has been experiencing this. The soul is all-knowing. It’s all encompassing and it’s also connected to the supreme consciousness, so it knows. The soul pushes you,“Go here, see.“ When it happens a few times, then awareness starts growing and you realise,“Oh, this is just a role-play. I’ve been an idiot, I didn’t know. I thought it was all real. And nothing is permanent. Everything is temporary. Emotions are temporary, people are temporary, situations are temporary, time is temporary… Oh, my God, now I realise I should catch on to the permanent.“ The only permanent companion is your soul. That is when you start listening to the soul, and asking “Oh, please tell me something.“ Then the soul guides you to the real answer, to the right places. Next you start becoming closer to your soul. It means you start looking inside. When you start looking inside and start connecting to your soul, you will get the right answers, the right directions, the right guidance. That’s the point in time when life starts shifting. Then it’s up to the process. Immediately you will start distancing yourself from whatever is not real, and you will start opting for what is real. That is when all the gurus and great mirrors come into play. They give you the total picture, your naked image,“This is you. All that you have considered are masks.“ They remove all the masks. This is you. That’s the point in time when you actually start seeing yourself. The purpose of every great master is to be a perfect mirror to society, to the people. Being a perfect mirror, they reflect you only at the time when you are looking at it. That’s what Baba said, “You look at me, I look at you.“ Only at that point in time. Otherwise nobody gives you food in the mouth, there is no spoon feeding. They guide you to the food saying you are welcome to have it, you are welcome to reject it and then – reflection. You understand, “Oh this is me! The other things are not important.“ So the lifestyle becomes one of non-violence, unconditional love, and then the purification becomes strong. You will not be interested in any violent activities, and your only expression becomes compassion. Then internally you become a saint, whether you are grihastha or a renunciate. You become a saint inside. Then it’s quick progress. The next step is liberation. Liberation is already happening in your life because you are detaching from everything which is unreal. Then you come inside and you see the real, you marry the real, and immediately the shifts happen. Other people will notice it better, more easily, because they think, “This person has gone mad!“ He is not responding to the usual gossip (laughter). So what happens? “Ok, let’s leave them alone.“ That is why I said yesterday if somebody abuses you and you don’t respond, they become surprised. The usual thing is that you would give back some abuse, right? But that’s not happening. They stop it. Whom will you call an idiot? A person who is normal, right? If you are absolutely sure a person is idiot, you won’t call him (laughter) because he wouldn’t know. If the response is not happening properly, then society is surprised. Society cannot understand people with usual problems. So how can you be peaceful when society is like this? You can do this by being connected to your inside more than to your outside. This is the point.

Transcribed by Biljana Vozarevic
Proof-read by Caroline Moscato


Raise the Awareness of the Society

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The only possibility for a better tomorrow is to raise the awareness of the society.

Q: How not to hurt others if one is forced into a battle?

A: Prevention is always better than cure. There is always a past, present and future for any situation in any place. Usually situations are created by people whose consciousness levels can create problems for a larger group of people. Such is the case for some of our leaders. They are elected and brought forward from our own people and society. Understand the times that we are living in. In the past, many centuries ago, the kings or rulers were guided by saints who had nothing to do with worldly affairs. What would they tell the king? Let all people be happy, let there be proper division of labor and wealth etc. This is the kind of advice a saint can give. A saint would never say “go and conquer the neighboring country”. Who is running the countries today? The people who are making weapons. These people run governments. If there are no wars, there are no weapon sales. So what created this situation? What is moving the world? People. Seven billion people, seven billion consciousnesses. What can an individual do against 7 billion people? The only thing we can do is raise the awareness of the people – we are here to find peace, not war. We have been trained to accept the decisions of the elected government. We are also helpless because these are the people to whom we gave votes. Authority without responsibility creates confusion. We tell the elected person that he can run the country for five years. What does he do? He ensures that he makes sufficient money for his children and grandchildren, and is not worried about the next generation of the whole country. Normally, he will use the situation for his own benefits. There is no point in us getting disillusioned, because they came out of us. The consciousness of the society reflects the consciousness of the leader. So if the consciousness of the society is one of greed, jealousy, anger and hatred, the leader will be the product of that. You and I can be much higher, but what is the majority? Insensitiveness is now ruling in the world, people do not care. They do not care about what you or I feel, what the society feels or what the next generation will feel. Their problem is whether they’ve made enough money. The only possibility for a better tomorrow is to raise the awareness of the society. It is important. What are the governments doing? They provide alcohol, entertainment etc. so that they occupy the mind of people and keep them as slaves. If somebody desires to raise their voice, you will not see him again, he will be taken care of. So singularly nothing can be done. We see injustice everywhere. How does it happen? Insensitiveness. We don’t care about the other person. We pretend to be benevolent, but internally we express greed. I am talking about the average society. When Jesus was alive, Pilate asked the people “I have two options. I can pardon this noble man or pardon this thief”. What did the society say? Pardon the thief, kill the noble man. Why did they choose to kill Jesus? He was telling the truth. Today we are living in the same world, only technology has changed, but people have not changed. When somebody tells the truth, sometimes it’s beyond his time. Jesus was challenging people who were priests. The priests could never accept that they didn’t know their job. So Jesus directly challenged the priests and asked them “Isn’t this the truth?” When your ego is affected, when you have to face a carpenter challenging you and what you do, what happens? Society decided to get rid of him. But Jesus never cared for his body. He said that the body is temporary, taken for expressing some truths of God. The dramatic exit of Jesus on the cross shook up the consciousness of the world. That was his final message. If Jesus was, even for one moment, afraid or had any fear in him, there would be no Christianity today. He was fearless. And where is this fearlessness coming from? Conviction. Conviction, based on truth, the real, eternal truth. So this is society. What do we do with it? Those who talk truth get assassinated. Those who pretend, compromise and conform to the sins of the world are maintained. This is the reality of any time. Why is this happening, have you ever thought? Why is the truth destroyed, at least temporarily? It is because the more spiritual you become, and the more established in the truth you become, the less communicative you become. Your operating level becomes silence, deep peace. Silence, because you are stable in truth. When you are established in truth, there is nothing to prove, you are just doing the job. You are just doing what you are sent for. You can see that very much in Jesus’ life. He just went ahead with his mission, whether people liked it or not. But usually what happens is – they are understood only after they are dead. It takes a different generation to understand the truth and the man. The contemporary generation gets stuck with the personality and the expressions, so they fail to understand. For the next generation, it’s just a picture on the wall and some messages, so it’s easy. You do not have to deal with personalities, it’s better. So what do we do? When we have to encounter a personality, we assassinate him, so it’s easy, that man is gone. Then you put a picture and say he was God. Even though this was meant as a joke, it’s the truth.

Surrender and acceptance

Mohanji quote - You are not what you seem to be in the mirrorThere are the small and large aspects of surrender. The small aspect is – I’m helpless so I surrender. That is probably the weakest possible surrender you can have, because when you become powerful then you will kick again. The second aspect, or the higher aspect, is that I surrender out of unconditional love. I surrender out of devotion so the highest level of emotion becomes devotion, where I do not exist, only He exists. Like Jesus said “let your will be, not mine”, that is a high level of surrender. That surrender happens by itself, we do not have to surrender. Surrender is the opposite of ego. Surrender is a state of egolessness, or egolessness state leads to surrender. The first level of surrender is towards existence: I accept myself the way I am. The second level is: I accept the situation around me as it is. The third level is: I accept the universe in all its diversity and conditions as it is. Once the acceptance becomes absolute, surrender happens. You don’t have to surrender, it automatically takes place. So, if surrender is spontaneous because of acceptance and higher awareness, it stays, and nothing can shake it. However, people talk about surrender as a kind of compromise. That is a wrong understanding. We don’t compromise anything when surrender is absolute. There is nothing to compromise because we do not exist. Only the consciousness exists. Individual ego entities do not exist. When individual ego entities are removed, surrender is spontaneous.

Where can you build a house, which location helps you? On a rock, on stable ground. When you want to build something or express something to the world outside, it should be from a level of stability, not a level of confusion. This level of stability is achieved when we are not ego bound, or operating out of egocentric identities. The best message you can give to the world or the best way to trigger changes in the world, is through yourself. First point: you are the universe that you have been searching for. The moment you understand the universe that is you, you understand the external universe which is a part of you. Society consists of people and you are a part of society, you are one of the ingredients of society. Second point: since you are a part of society and society consists of you, your expressions become valid to society. So, if you are peaceful, and you are well settled, people will ask you “How did you achieve this?”. How do we change society? Change yourself. Also, you have the power. Please understand, you are not what you seem to be in the mirror. You are much beyond it. What you see in the mirror is only an expression of you. And you are not constantly in front of the mirror either. Once you start expressing your true self, which is based on unconditional love… and unconditional love is the unshakeable ground you have been looking for, but unfortunately because of the mind we do not know it… the moment you start building your base on unconditional love, others will start taking notice of you. Your inner self will express and when your personality overflows and mixes with the personality of society, you see your own reflection in everybody’s eyes. You become one with society and society becomes one with the world. So, the beginning of the revolution is within.

The Guru principle

The guru or the teacher, the true master, that entity which you see is only an expression of a huge consciousness. The guru or the master is only an expression. That means you need a mouth to talk or express. In the universe there are numerous forms and expressions of the principle called guru. All these expressions are important and related to somebody or some situation in society. The principle called guru operates 24/7/365 beyond time and space. Out of this principle, about 10% is in human form. If you look at nature, you can see the principle called master (guru) working all the time. Look at how the sun operates. The way the sun nourishes the earth, activates all of life and also puts it to sleep. Our life cycle is more or less moving with the movement of sun. If you look at the way the animals live, they consume only as much food as their constitution needs. They do not store or worry about the next meal and they are completely working on the principle of existence in time. If you look at the cycle of the seasons, each season has a value. The seasons make you understand that life also has a validity, time has a validity and whatever you do has a validity. Some are for a longer periods of time, some are useful for some time, some are not at all useful. The principle is delivering all the time, but do we have the eyes/mind to see? The principle also comes in human form, which we call guru, my teacher, my master. That has a reason. First of all, in order to work, the guru principle needs connectivity. That means that I should be understood by you. Otherwise whatever I say is of no use to you. You cannot understand this principle using the mind, you can only perceive. Another thing, to understand the guru principle, you should be able to raise your awareness to that level. For example, a child studying in the 3rd standard is eligible to receive a teacher which will impart knowledge on that level. You can read many materials and listen to a lot of people, but at the end of the day, what are you assimilating, what is useful to you? That is the only thing which is worthwhile. If you approach any guru or any teaching with a prejudice or mindset (creating frames), huge limitations happen in our understanding and our assimilation of the knowledge.
First of all, guru is not a human being, it’s a principle (tattwa). Tattwa expresses itself through many beings or every being, including you being a guru to somebody else. A small child could be a guru to its parents because it teaches so many things. Like that, the principle of guru works all the time. Read more about Guru principle.

Guru’s dimensions of operation 

Earth is not the only plane where the principle operates. A small example: this person sitting in front of you has a given name Mohan. But this Mohan represents a conglomeration, a much larger and much more complicated system (entity). Imagine, there are 1 trillion cells on our body. Each cell has a unique capacity, a mind and a spirit and can store and release things. So each cell has a value in this body. This body is a conglomeration of many millions of cells. And the consciousness is a conglomeration of the huge consciousness from each of the cells. So if I say “my body consciousness” that means I’m talking about 1 trillion cells’ consciousness. Another thing: usually we see children inheriting property, and sometimes character, education and position from their parents. In the same way, when a cell dies and goes, another cell replaces that cell and inherits the character of the previous. If this is what we are, then what do we understand as ourselves… Look at the contrast in our understanding and our reality. If you understand our reality as 1 trillion cells containing a consciousness which is unique, and each part of our system having a particular mind/character, and all this is put together to form a man, then just imagine the size of our operation. Huge.

Mohanji quote - How do I communicate with you when you are far away

I’ll give you another way of understanding. Let’s take our basic emotions such as anger, hatred, fear, jealousy, happiness etc. and give each a different color and imagine that our cells have different colors based on what is in it. Then if we look at our own body, we can understand what it is made up of. All these ingredients are sitting there. That is why each time we are responding in a different way. This is what we are.
Now, as we say, “I am suffering from anger or jealousy” – this means that this particular emotion is established in many cells of our system, external and internal, and this is all becoming a fuel for our expression. What we are trying to do here is to extract them and throw them out, that is why we call it cleansing. Why do I need the body? Otherwise I cannot communicate with you. However, understand one thing. When you evolve into higher levels of awareness, when you establish yourself in higher levels of awareness, you may not have as much requirement for the body as you used to in the lower awareness. In those times, the body is one way of expression, but there are numerous other avenues for expression. Coming to your specific point – how do I communicate with you, living so far away? How do certain entities come into your canvas? I am calling it a canvas because it’s much larger than the mind. You are sometimes encountering situations not when you are awake, but when you are in different realms (not even a state of dream, it’s a state beyond dreams). In those realms, communication becomes much simpler, if you are able to raise yourself to those levels. One point – there are numerous waves in space, but our TV cannot tune into every transmission. Likewise, we develop our eligibility to tune into different levels of transmission. Once you reach those levels you can connect in those realms. It is based on the level of subtlety. If you are talking about masters who are not in the physical body, but are available… how are they available? Because co-existence happens in the subtle form. Your subtle form is definitely available, but you are not conscious of it. You cannot have this level of operation if you are too concerned about the body and the physical constitution of your waking state. That means, when we are awake, we are too conscious of who I am, what I am, what is my qualification… All this baggage weighs you down, it makes you feel that you are the body, but actually speaking this is only one projection of our full consciousness. Is that too complicated to understand? Now, how subtle you go brings you more eligibility. The soul is very subtle, you can’t even see it, you can only feel its expression. You cannot see the petrol in the car, but without the petrol you would have to push the car. All of spirituality is about being more and more aware of our constitution, and starting to operate in that larger awareness. When you start operating in more subtle planes, you become more powerful. How do we talk in the planes beyond the dream state? Simple. Your subtle form connects to the subtlety of me, which is available, or entities like me, you convey a question and the answer is delivered. The projection from your mind is on forms, or what you call other masters, but there is only one master and numerous expressions. So, when you think of other masters, you are thinking of the forms which some people have taken at some point in time. I’ll give you an example. A person who is not very close to me, but who met me in one of the programs, was praying to Baba for an answer over for two consecutive nights. Baba is not in his physical body, but his consciousness is very much available. So, she was praying two nights consecutively and though I didn’t have this person’s number or contact, I knew her friend. I texted the answer to her friend and told her to please deliver it to her. This person was overwhelmed, saying that this was the answer she had been looking for. “How did Mohanji know what I prayed for?” she asked. She lives in the Fiji islands, thousands of kilometers away. Ultimately, the point is that in consciousness it’s all one. So the message is delivered through somebody. My validity is only in as much as I can deliver the message. This physical form has no value. The value is in the result delivered. Likewise, if you think about many masters and that they should come in their form to deliver the message, then you are not understanding the truth. Masters are all one in that realm, however there are various expressions in this level, because there should be. Everybody cannot reach everybody. However, it’s connected in one realm. Expressions are in many forms.

An excerpt from a satsang during Serbian retreat in May 2013
Transcribed by Tamara Bobic
Edited by Caroline Moscato

Trust and Dispassion on Spiritual Path

Trust on the spiritual path

Mohanji quote - Truth is beyond forms or dimensions

A. Doubts are projections of the mind. Mind is also the seed of confusion, as well as alienation, that is – duality. What makes you feel different from me is your mind. There are 7 billion people in the world, 7 billion expressions and 7 billion constitutional differences. It’s all fueled by one soul. Once you go beyond the differences of the 7 billion and connect to the soul which runs the whole diversification, then you understand you are that.
Mind and its expressions (ego, intellect) create the wall of differentiation from other people and entities. Mind tells you “That is separate from me”, “I am not that”. Mind also creates frames, mental images: “My guru should look like this, behave like this”. If the guru in front of you delivering the message, does not fit the picture in your mind, we reject him.
First thing is to demolish images and go to truth. This can be done if you are linked to the truth- only truth- which belongs to the soul and is beyond the mind. Soul activates the mind; mind cannot do anything to the soul. Truth is beyond forms or dimensions. If we are constantly connected to the truth, mind cannot distort any situation. Many people ask me the question “Who is my guru?” The answer is very simple – the one who came in front of you. Because there is an eternal truth: when the student is eligible, the right guru appears. When the right guru comes, it may be a picture different from the mind’s expectation but the only criteria is if the message or information useful and relevant to me? When we were in school, we did not go in search of a guru, a teacher. A teacher came to our class and we accepted the teacher. Another teacher could not have helped us to go to the next class. Many people say they would like Mahavatar Babaji to be their guru. I always say “Sure, it’s possible, but are you subtle enough to understand him? Even if he comes and sits near you, how can you get anything from him?” First we have to raise ourselves to a level where we are able to relate to him; only then there will be a transfer of information or energy and elevation. Many people ask me about the realm of operation of Satya Sai Baba. I tell you that is not relevant to you. You can only understand the realm of operation of a master of that stature, when you become him. Otherwise we only see what is in front of us- the image, words or expressions. That is actually nothing compared to the operational level. We make our judgements based on this plane (the visible operational level), which is again (I always say) a weak expression of a huge consciousness.


Mohanji quote - When awareness grows

There are two types of dispassion. One is – we tell the mind to be dispassionate. Attempts to be dispassionate on the mental level are not permanent. Another level of dispassion, which is permanent, is that you reach a state where nothing matters. Everything is available, but it doesn’t matter. That is permanent, achieved through exhaustion or experience. E.g. you craved for pizza, you had sufficient pizza in your life so you can say I don’t need it anymore. At one time it was very important, but at another time it is nothing, you don’t need it. That is actually your dispassion towards a material, which was important at one time and not important at another time.
Going through own experiences is one of the sure methods of exhaustion. Let me explain own experience more. If the mind makes it a habit, i.e. you are experiencing a thing but the mind is not available, it will become a repetition. That way exhaustion doesn’t happen. In that level, you feel sad without pizza. So this is the mental level of operation where mind captures an activity, retains it and instigates the desire on a periodical basis, repeatedly. And if that material is not available at a particular time, mind says that things are not right. So habit does not help exhaustion of a desire; a habit just maintains it. At the same time, when the mind is present during an activity, it fully enjoys the situation and chances for repetition will be small.
As a member of a family in a society, you are part of the experiences of the other people. You carry certain impressions or experiences of other people which become yours as well. In that level also you say “ok, I know what my friend went through in a particular situation, I am fine with it, thank you very much”. That also leads to dispassion. Please don’t confuse this with escapism or hatred about something. These are all different emotions. I am talking about dispassion as a settlement, that means that you are dispassionate about something and it settles you, it doesn’t hide you. There are various inputs which help create dispassion. The best thing is when awareness grows, you can see from above the whole pattern of life. At that time, many things will have no value. Then dispassion sets in as an expression of unconditional love. That is forever, it can never change. In other words, you have taken effort and climbed 20 floors of a big building and the reality is that you reached the 20th floor. Nobody can take the view from there away from you, because you achieved it. So your awareness depends on where you stand. Are you on the 1st floor, are you on the 20th floor?

Transcribed by Tamara Bobić
Edited by Aviral Srivastava

Excerpt from a satsang during Serbian retreat in May 2013

Mastering the Soul

From a Satsang during Serbian retreat with Mohanji in May 2014

Q: How did the souls become?

Big Bang -galaxy -Centaur
The first possibility for creation was relativity- when the big bang happened. When the supreme energy split into many so that there is a possibility of me and you, otherwise it’s One, original unity.

A: We make a machine, like a washing machine or a refrigerator. We put various ingredients into a particular mode so that we can wash objects or cool them. Then electricity executes it. Electricity can remain electricity without expressions, or electricity can go through machines and express its presence, like light, air-conditioning, washing machine, refrigerator. So electricity’s presence is felt through objects. These are the bodies with life. Just as petrol can exist as petrol or can manifest as movement. So creations have happened and creations started creating. That means, the first possibility for creation was relativity- when the big bang happened. When the supreme energy split into many so that there is a possibility of me and you, otherwise it’s One, original unity. Why is duality created? Because creativity was only possible that way. There have been many, many creators because once the clay was available…

Take the whole consciousness as an ocean. If you pour the whole ocean onto anything, it will destroy the whole thing. But if it is minute quantity, it can nourish something. If the whole electricity comes into this building, the building will burn. You need transformers and further transformers to reduce its intensity so that the lights can burn. This is what happened in the whole creation when relativity was formed.
The universe formed only after the big bang. When relativity occurred after the big bang, the energy split in trillions of pieces across the universe. Otherwise it was just one consciousness existing as this was billions of years ago. When the bang happened, One became Many. It was all over the space. Space was created. Space was created with relativity. Relativity was created with space. It’s all intermixed, it’s all connected. This is connectivity between supreme consciousness that we call Father and trillions of children.
See, if you are the only person existing in this world, you will never know who you are. Because there is nothing to compare with. Duality gives you opportunities, helps you to realise dimensions. So duality was created. For the duality to be created there should be ‘this’ and ‘that’. They are the same as Father. Father did only one creation – just explode himself. Then all his children scattered across the universe because universe was created by Father, by just exploding himself. Then all the children across the universe got the opportunity as creators, they can experience creation. But who is actually experiencing the creation? The witness is the Father. Father is witnessing the children creating further. Like our family. Each generation creates the next generation. Like that creation became the creator, and creators started creating more creations. This is the flow.

We are creating in two dimensions each day. We are creating our destiny through our thoughts, words, action, emotion. It means we are creating our further lives at this point in time or while we are living. This is number one.
Number two, we are creating successors, or our next generation, propagating our species through procreation. Though you do not know how to infuse a soul into a body. We can only kill an animal and release the soul. We do not know how to bring it back. This is the level of consciousness that we are operating in. But you can create only something with available material. If material is not available here, you can’t create a particular thing the way you like. Your creativity depends on the material available, right? The kind of colours required for the artist to paint, if the paints or the colours are not available, he will have to use what is available. Likewise, in our creativity also, our consciousness matters, which level we are operating in. Only that we can create. We cannot create in different dimension with our available consciousness or awareness.

What Father did was, he exploded himself, and made available the material for creation, which means through relativity. Once exploded, space was created. You need minimum space and time duration for creation. So, time was created. Then, third is awareness that a unit is as powerful or as potent as the macrocosm. Microcosm is equal to macrocosm, the only difference is in the form, dimension. The opportunity was given. You have the space, you have the time, now you create. So, various beings started creating various forms.

There are two levels of creation happening in the earth plane. One is the evolutionary creation. It means one form becomes another form. This is actually internal creation or evolution, like, an ape became a man. Second is that entities are coming, attaining a form and living here. This is birth by choice. An avatar happens or something comes into mother’s womb, and attains a human body. This is also possible. So the creation at will plus evolutionary creation.
Human beings started trying to understand what makes all this possible. That is why the ancient man worshipped the sun, whose energy is very important for earth. Then the wind, the water, the air, the earth. So in vedic times people were connecting to the beings of nature and the elements of nature. From there they realised that there are energies which have the power to create, induce a soul into a body, and create bodies. These are the creators. We started calling them gods. The principle of inducing a soul into a body, is the same principle as the prana pradishta used in temples- inducing energy into the idol. They make an idol, induce the energy in a particular way, so that it becomes a deity. The same way, as the body is created, the soul is induced.
But don’t think that somebody comes and induces the soul in the womb everytime. It’s not so. Because then it becomes karmic cycle. The soul decides to go into any womb which suits its purpose. So theoretically it’s the same as putting a soul into the body for creating an entity, similarly through the way of certain chants and rituals you bring an energy and put it in the idol so it becomes powerful. One more aspect is that there is a particular level of power you can induce into any idol. But there are sometimes saints who leave the body and put the soul inside the idol or a place. That has much more power. These places become the power centers. Because they are giving their own soul into the idol so that it can stay forever. Body is perishable. These are the places like Shirdi Sai Baba’s place, where his body is kept. Thousands and thousands of people are coming and everybody is getting results and benefits. The most powerful places of worship in India are all associated with some saints. They have left their body and induced the soul into that place. So the soul attracts people and induces blessings.
But in order to induce a soul into any material, the person who can do it should have mastered the soul. Otherwise you can’t just leave the soul anywhere. It will just wander. You need to have an absolute control on the whole activity of the body, having merged with the soul. It takes the range of a very powerful master, siddha or avadhoota to do this. Otherwise various saints die, but nothing happens.

Mohanji quote - Normally the souls do not choose

Q: Do they come back exclusively into human bodies? Do they often come back into the families where they had been?

A: If a person has extreme desire for meat, he can become a tiger in the next life. That is the clearest desire. Consumption of meat is like an obsession. When a person becomes a tiger, for fifteen years he can eat only meat, then he’ll come back. Have you heard the word ‘yoga prashta’? It means expelled or displaced from yoga. A person who has been practising yoga for a long time, and suddenly started having extreme sexual urges. He falls. There is no falling actually, he diverts. Then he may take a body of an animal or probably human as well, just for the gratification. Then he comes back again. So yoga prashta is more or less going in the path, deviating and coming back again. Maybe it will take another lifetime. You can see this in certain sects which practise celibacy. They can’t hold it. They can’t move on. So what happens is they are spiritually growing at the same time they are suppressing sexuality. Then it comes back with a bang. Then they topple. We can see this in various types of yogis. That is why I always say, fulfilment is important. Move on, avoid suppression! Move on with fulfilment, so that your practice also grows and at the same time you are evolving. This is very important.
It’s a collaboration. A set of souls decide, ”We will come back to earth and enjoy relationship.” It need not be family members. It could be your boss, or a priest of your church, any kind of relationship you have, guru and a disciple, father and mother, father and child, any permutation or combination. These are all souls deciding to come together, and experience the earthly life in unity. Once a soul decides, I’ve had enough of you,” ha, ha, they go and take birth elsewhere… there is full freedom. Normally the souls do not choose other dimensions. If you have not seen any dimension beyond earth, you will not choose to go there because you do not know. So once you evolve and you start expanding and experiencing other dimensions, then you have multiple options. Otherwise you keep coming back to earth. That is why evolution of awareness is extremely important.

Q: What do you think about transcendental meditation?

A: Every path is good. I have good opinions of every path, because it suits somebody. It may not suit everybody, but it suits somebody. If you can transcend into any frequency in the transcendental path, it is always elevating. But it is especially good if you have no objective or if you have one objective which is total nullification.
Usually what happens is every path has some faith. ”If you do this, you get this result.” That hooks the mind. If you follow anything related to transcendental aspects of life without conditions, without expectation, it can elevate you. Because then you are not entertaining the mind. You are keeping the mind quiet but you are doing your thing. So mind is not really occupied with activity. The more mind gets occupied, the more binding happens.
All paths are good. I actually feel that there are numerous gurus, paths, religions, all are good because each helps somebody. We should look at everything objectively. Like, there is a buffet on the table. You want to eat everything, but you can only consume as per the capacity of your stomach and as per your inclination for food. Likewise, you choose what suits you. Like the dress you wear. You wear it because you chose it, you like to wear that dress. Everybody has their choices. Seven billion people means there are seven billion aspects of existence. All are unique. There are no two buffalos alike.
I only say, first, don’t believe any guru who says ”I’m the only one”. Second, if anybody tries to bind you to himself or to some activity, run away. Third, the moment you start to be miracle oriented, understand you are vulnerable. Because you are only looking at miracles, you are not looking at evolution. This is again the play of the mind. Remember these three things.

Mohanji quote - In the spiritual path use feeling more than eyes
Sometimes, when we are at the party or at a buffet dinner, we taste some things. It doesn’t mean that it’s the only thing we eat. Likewise, you can taste certain methods. There’s no harm in it. But the moment it starts binding you and you feel without it there is no existence, it is just an addiction. I feel that you should be meditating if you love to meditate, not that you have to meditate. There is a big difference in here. Whatever you love to do, evolves you. Whatever you have to do, binds you.
One of the primary things in the spiritual path is you should use your feeling more than your eyes. Everything that glitters is not gold. However, if you use your eyes or ears to look or feel a guru, you might be disillusioned. You might not understand the truth. But feel the guru or feel the energy. Try to feel more than see. Then the chances for delusion are much less. This is very, very important to understand. That is why often a guru who has passed on is more respected than one who is alive. But actually, as I said earlier, if you have found one person who is connected to the source, even if you lose your life don’t leave because that is enough; you found the rocket to reach the moon. But there will be tests before you get close to the guru. There will be tests on your conviction, determination, clarity that this is what you want to do. Otherwise, half-way through, you will say, ok, this is not what I want to do. And then you take a detour. Many times in spirituality this happens. People travel a little bit, and then say, this is not what I wanted and deviate. Then they start feeling completely angry and disillusioned about the whole spiritual path. These are all traps of this system. But be clear about it. That is why I said last time, run away from people who bind you at any cost. Those who keep you liberated, definitely, go with them.
Fundamentally, there should be unconditionality, not conditional interaction; whether you are here or there, whether you are happy or sad. Lastly we have a concept, a picture in mind. For example, Shirdi Sai Baba, with a turban and all the attires of that time. If we are looking for a guru of that level, we will find one. But that may not be Shirdi Sai Baba. And then when you get closer, you may be dissillusioned. This happens many times to spiritual people. You need to accept the guru that comes to you. It may not be the same picture that you have in mind. Suppose, you have a picture of Babaji in mind, and you find somebody who resembles him, and then you immediately connect to him. Then, what happens? That person is definitely not Babaji. So mental concepts should never be a barrier on a spiritual journey.
You have the right to accept what is right for you, reject what is not right for you. If you accept whatever gives you inner silence or liberation, it’s extremely good. That is exactly what you are supposed to do. And if you accept anything that binds you and say, this is the meditation, this is the path, a daily ritual; there is no heart in it, it’s a burden. That is to be avoided. Then, if you are only looking for inner silence and this is benchmark you are keeping for yourself, and you are evolving, then whatever comes which suits that journey, this is ok. Then nobody can cheat you. Because your purpose is very clear. If you move around without clarity, and you try to have mental images, ”Oh, my guru should look like this” , like Shirdi Sai Baba, or Babaji, or Sathya Sai Baba. So many people go to someone who looks like a past master and get trapped. Why I am saying this is because concepts are often traps in our existence. Then to get out is very difficult. You start blaming the guru, the situation, other places. But the problem is that your concepts are binding you and making you miserable.

In early years, there was a person who had the power to materialise, so I was looking at him as Sai Baba. Even now he is very active. There is a meditation that this man is propagating, there is my voice and my script. But it took many months for me to realise that he was using me. And he was trying to put me under his umbrella so that he could get… But what distracted me were a couple of incidents which were not very interesting for me. And people were coming, he collected money from some people who were coming to see me. I did not even know. Not small money. Substantial money. One day one of these people called me and they thought I was getting a share from it. See how manipulation works? We don’t know because we connect and think, this is Sai Baba, because he can materialise something, but any magician can do the same. But it took time. This is what I’m saying.
We might be deluded for a long time, because we are bhakti, devotion, we connect to some other entity. And this was actually a princess of Malaysia who sent me a message. Mohanji you are much purer than this kind of thing going on, get away from that place otherwise you will be tarnished. She went to see him and she was very sharp, she could recognise him deep through. I was more blinded at that time. In front of me she said, ”Mohanji I’m staying in a resort which costs a lot of money. It would be better if I get a place to hire and build my own to stay here when I come here… I said, ”Princess, this is a good idea.” Once you are not there, other people can stay. She agreed. I suggested this to this guru, and immediately an architect came and said 13,000 USD. Princess said, ok, go ahead. While she was there, this guru said, ”No, it is 26 000 USD.” By the time she reached Malaysia, they doubled the price again. Princess called and said,”Mohanji do they think I’m an idiot?” When I went to Malaysia, we went to the palace, had dinner and then she was explaining how the manipulation was going on. And it was her who warned me so she told me, ”Get out of the place, you do not fit there.”
In another instance, one disciple of this guru goes to an astrologer very often. That guy is not an astrologer for money. He is a school teacher. But he practises this. So the astrologer asked the person who was staying with this guru, ”How is this guru doing?” He said, ”He is doing well.” A lot of people are coming, there are a lot of activities. Then he asked, ”How is Mohanji doing?” He said, ”He is also fine. One day he will be more famous than this guru.” Then this guy came and told this to that guru. This is where the problem started. Real manipulation started then. Because some people started coming to me. I did not know why these people were coming to me. I am also serving just like anybody else. Later on I understood this was the game. And the princess said she was going to talk to the prime minister of India, she was very detrimental. And I also detached. The whole point I am saying is these kind of things are very much there. It all looks cosy, everything is fine, but we never know. Maybe we are used. No regrets, this was education. I’ve never told anybody that I’m their guru. If people ask me, ”Are you my guru?” I always say, “This is your realisation, not my saying. If you feel, it’s ok. If you don’t feel, it’s ok. There should be no binding. We should flow freely, so I’m free, you’re free.’’ I keep this because if I do not have purity, I cannot deliver purity.
One of my followers met this person because somebody contacted recently from japan and said, ”I heard your voice, but I heard different meditation which is not on your website.” I said, ”This is another one which I gifted to them,” ha, ha. So princess asked me to sue him and take it back. That time I gave it from my heart so I said, ”Let him keep it, no problem.” And I’m not bound by any of this anyway. So this man met him recently and he was doing a discourse. He knows that I was connected to him many years ago. He created ash and gave him. This guy also knows magic. He created ash and gave him also. He became very angry.

Q: How do I reconcile my spiritual journey and what I do at work when there are conflicts, there is lack of integrity, bad morality, etc. Sometimes it causes conflict inside me.

A: I think you already had the answer. I’ll explain. Every human being plays multiple roles each day. At home he is the king. At work place he is an employee. With his children he is the father. With wife he is the husband, with parents, he is the child. There is no segregation, you are floating through it. Each has a different flavour. This is what we call life. Out of these roles, which is the real you? The one who is watching the whole show is real you. So you are going through each situation and you are acting from one role to another, but you still remain immune to everything. You are acting each role, but once you remove the make-up, you are a different individual. That is the real you. So the answer is, play each role well. What did Krishna tell Arjuna? ”Arjuna, your role is to fight. You are a warrior. You chose the birth of a warrior. Fight and win, that’s your job.” In the war there could be murders, he showed him the Visharupa, the full form, in which all the people Arjuna was supposed to fight and kill are already dead and gone, in real time. So Krishna said, ”You are just an instrument. You are not doing any great job.”
Do you know when you have stress? When you do something which you have to do, not which you love to do. Otherwise there’s no stress. How many more things do you do which you have to do or are compelled to do, versus how much of your waking state you are doing what you love to do. This is the criterion with your success and failure in life. Now you decide, if you have to do this job. If you lose this job, you have a problem. Do this job as long as you have to do it, because you cannot afford lack of income state. But nurture what you love to do on the side. Let it grow, side by side. One day, you can switch over. How do you know what you love to do? It gives no stress, it gives fulfilment, and you will be happy to do it. Or you don’t need any artificial stimuli or provocation to do it. You are self-inspired for it. This is good for you. This is what is close to your basic nature. Nurture this. Make it grow to the level where one day you can smoothly switch over from what you have to do to what you love to do. Once you switch over, then that is where your life begins. Until then you are existing. For example, one lady is not well, she needs crutches until her leg becomes stronger. So the job which you have to do for your money are the crutches to take you until your leg becomes stronger. Once you are on your feet, you don’t need the crutches.

Q: During meditation I felt tickling at the top of the head, what was that?

A: When you go into higher vibration, automatically kundalini gets activated. This is not the final kundalini activation which we talked about for complete transit. We can call it many names but I don’t want to confuse you with names. So the bubbles will be felt at the top of the head. This is all inside. When you shift to certain frequencies you can possibly connect to frequencies or energies outside. That you may feel as external movement or some kind of activity, this is the second level. Like there is a school teacher for first class, second class, third… there are various frequencies in which masters operate. When you attain a certain frequency, there is a possibility of energy transfer. Or it may not even be energy transfer, it may just be supporting you to be in that plane. When you connect to my eyes and meditate, you are connected to me, then my energy comes to you or is transferred to you, or you will feel my presence as well. This is the fourth level. Fifth is some insect comes on the top of your head and you have different sensation, ha ha…

Q: How do we know where the line that we shouldn’t cross when we are trying to help somebody, e.g. in a story a woman thought she had the right to steal somebody else’s child. How do we know how far we can go?

A: This is more or less the mother’s emotion. Because she could not stand a small child being beaten by the father, she snatched the child and ran away. You can’t look at the morality of it. It’s the mother’s heart. The social morality has no value. But mother’s heart was pure. Her interest was to save the child. That’s pure, this has to be appreciated. In the absolute sense, she did the absolute sense. In the eyes of law this is wrong, but in the eyes of humanity, this is right. The purpose and purity makes the difference here. Sometimes people snatch a child and use it for begging. It is absolutely wrong. If you kill or rape a person, that’s a different thing. But here, it was to save and she sacrificed her life for the sake of the child. She was only 16, chose not to marry and worked as a tailor. She left the city, lest people there should catch her. Well this story is from a movie. Nevertheless, if the purpose is pure and clear, it is justified.

Mohanji quote - You are totally free, liberated being

Q: How can we be sure that it is not something wrong? Did that woman have the right to interfere in the karma of that child?

A: I always say, stay with the truth: the one truth that you are totally free, liberated being at this point in time. What binds you is the mind, ego and intellect factor. Stay with the truth that you are a liberated being even now. You don’t need any other certificate for that. Then do what is right according to this truth. Then you will be free.

Transcribed by Biljana Vozarevic
Edited by Aviral Srivastava

The Soul Keeps Moving

Satsangs from Serbian Retreat with Mohanji, 9-14th May, 2014

Astral Travel and Connection with the Master

Q: Can you tell us a little more about connecting with you on the astral plane? How can then one do service even astrally?
A: This is not a conscious choice which you can make. It is actually happening in an almost unconscious or superconscious mode. In every deep sleep state, you have the potential to travel. You don’t need a particular training to travel astrally, and I would never recommend training, because if you induce a travel, who protects your body? Your body is like a many-bedroom house. So while you are roaming around, another soul will be entering the body. What will you do?

Astral travelI never support astral travel which is induced. But spontaneously, you are travelling with me. That is my responsibility, to take care of your body. There are many people who come with me when I do some job in other locations. But that time, all the people who are coming with me, are deeply connected to my consciousness, and I take care of their bodies. So when they come back, their body is still there, as they left. I normally do not talk about astral travel because it confuses people. Some people are dishing out courses for astral travel, which I always find funny. Because you don’t need to teach a fish to swim. You already know it. And you travel in deep sleep state every time. Astral plane is just like a parental home. After every death you go there. You maybe know that place much more than your home country. There are certain fundamentals you understand. Let us not be preoccupied with this kind of stuff. I would say that if you are deeply connected to me, automatically you will reach the attitude of service, like ”What Mohanji does, I want to serve”. This is spontaneous by the soul. Then you will follow me. A lot of people follow me in other locations. And many of them come back and tell me, ”You did this…”, or ”You experienced this.” I don’t normally give much explanation. That is not necessary. If you have a memory of astral experience and you bring it down to earth, that means you have something to do with it. Just like your past life memory doesn’t stay with you, astral experience will not stay with you either. If you remembered what you were doing in your past life, you will confuse it with this life. Because it will blur.
Likewise, if you travel astrally, you see many things on the vertical time. You could see something going to happen in the future and you return with a trauma in the waking state. It is useless. So the point I’m saying is that astral travel is a reality, every person has a potential, and most of the people are travelling astrally during the deep sleep state which is three hours of the sleeping time and many of them are connected to me or not only me. There are various entities operating at that level, so many of you are connected to me in this plane, in that plane, in lifetimes… I think some of you had experience how you met me during other lifetimes, so I wanted to deliver that so that you have clarity. Because I saw many minds are still doubting, ”Why this, why that, is it worthwhile…” So now you know the connection from the past, then you know that this is a very important thing in your life. It means, current day is important. Tomorrow will be important. Every day is important. Every event is important. Everything aims to your evolution.
You can connect to my eyes before you go to bed, it’s a good idea, because then you will have that kind of quality in your sleep or in your travel. But you can’t intend to travel. And if it’s not worthwhile, you will not travel. Nor will I take you. Most of the souls who are coming with me in my other plane journeys are coming to serve. And that is spontaneous. That is not a conscious decision. Mind cannot take a decision like that. Even if mind takes a decision, it is not worthwhile in the plane beyond the waking mind. Understand, a decision in the waking mind state is worthwhile only in waking mind state. I hope that clarifies that point.
If you are able to move into your sleep state or dream state consciously, if you are able to leave your body consciously, then you have that quality or power to protect your body, too. If your movement from waking to sleep is not conscious, if it’s unconscious, and if you are not able to leave your body at will, then you need assistance. You definitely need assistance. And this is where masters come into picture. Once the master holds your hand, then the master is also responsible for the body. Our body is taken from the earth for a duration.
There are souls which are not having the power to create the body, or not having the power to enter into a womb and take a birth with the body. What they do is they use the body which is already available, but this is not possessiveness or anything like that. There are these kind of things happening in everyday life. E.g. You have a big house and you have a few people living there. You may allot certain rooms to them. How do you make sure that you are fully occupying your body is by increasing your strength. Your power. Your energy. So that you occupy your body fully and no other entity has space to enter. This way you are fully connected and fully stable. This is one of the reasons why I say before you go to bed, connect to my eyes. So that you move into my consciousness, you energise yourself so you have the protection sheet. And when you wake up, connect so that in waking state you are again connected to me. When I say ‘Me’ I’m not talking about this physical form. This physical form the same as your physical form. It can die any day or I can leave it any day. I’m talking about the consciousness which is represented by the entity called Mohanji.
When your mind or emotions are in control of you, it is very difficult to occupy your body fully. If mind is very weak, you are very strong. If mind is very strong, you are a very weak person. So when the mind is fully occupying you and the mind is controlling you, you are fully into emotions.

The soul keeps moving, let it go

Serve food in the name of the person who departed, “I love this person, so I’m feeding a lot of poor people or birds or animals, in that person’s name.” You create positivity and it helps the soul’s transit.

For example, if some family members die, you keep crying and keep pulling them back, it affects the transit. We may think that we are having fond memories and stuff. That’s not so. You should bless them and allow them to go because they have completed their job. You should allow them to go peacefully. Instead, you are crying, etc. and you are pulling them back. So even if they want to take another body, they are constantly affected. As I said, thought is the first level of creation. Word is the second level of creation. If both have emotion, it affects somewhere. It can’t just die in the air. We have learnt that energy cannot be destroyed. So it works. I always say bless them. That is why I recommend to all your ancestors, offer the food you are eating. So it’s another kind of blessing, another kind of gratitude, so that they go on with their activity. E.g. In 2000 I was in Himalayas. One saint asked me, ”You have just had a big sorrow.” I said, ”I lost Ammu, my daughter.” He said, ”How do you say she’s your daughter?” I said, ”I thought so.” (ha ha) He said, ”I have the power to call the souls back. And I can ask them, ‘Soul, would you like to go back to your parents?’ The fundamental question the soul will ask is, ‘Of which life?’ Because it has parents in every life. In this life, of course, you are the parents. But the soul will be confused, ‘Which parents should I go to?’ ” This is as simple as that. The soul keeps moving. It has no reason to think about the tragedy, or to think, ”Oh, this was not good…” These are all our emotions and ignorance working. We will die sooner or later. And this is not a tragedy. If we are doing something positive for the world each day, the world is benefitted by our existence. Instead, we are sitting and crying in one corner, blaming everybody and creating negativity in the air. This is connected to astral travel I’m talking about. The soul is leaving for astral, but you are pulling it back all the time. We should be continuously grateful, whether the person was good or bad, it doesn’t matter. But instead, what we do? We cry and pull the soul back, ”Why did you go, what happened?” This is something which we must be aware of. How much are we hurting the soul who left? Definitely we have emotions. I’m not saying we should not have emotions, but we should have awareness as well, along with emotions. If we have awareness, we will only do the right thing.

And you can do another thing. I always tell people, it’s a very good idea, give food to other people in the name of the person. That enhances their journey. Like, you serve food in the name of the person who departed. I love this person, so I’m feeding a lot of poor people or birds or animals, in that person’s name. This is a positive thing. So in the name of that person you do so many good things that help the soul’s transit. It enhances the soul. Probably that soul can even come back to your family because you are bringing it goodness. Instead, you are only creating negativity at home, then, what will the soul do? The soul will not come back. Soul is absolutely pure. You cannot contaminate the soul. The soul has left.
Now the science say we can go back and trace the sound and bring back the soul of Jesus. Because it’s available in the ether. If you are able to travel back in time and pick up the sound particles, we can recreate what Jesus spoke. I’m not the scientist, this is what I read. But the same way, soul is energy. And it was in the body for some time. There is nothing tragic about selling the old car and buying a new one. Sooner or later we will also leave the body.
Mostly I’ve seen people crying because of selfish interest, ”Oh, what will happen to me? Who will pay my bills?” So we are very sad because we have to pay the bills ourselves now. There is an element of selfishness in us which makes us cry. Otherwise we will be objective, we would say, ”Ok, this person lived with us, I’m happy, you have given me a lot of love.” I was feeling the same when Ammu passed away. She was so deeply connected with me. But I thought for a moment, life is about so much. This is all life goes. Sooner or later you have to go. Later I realised it was the fragility of existence. Then it was very simple for me. Ok, one day I will go out this way. So now, what should I do with life? Things became very simple.
You can exist in love and you can exist in fear. These are two options. My choice is to exist in love. There is no point in existing in fear. Why I said this in connection with astral travel is because there are so many factors detrimental for our transit whether it is astral travel or the similar travel after death.
If you are a free person while living, you can travel any time. And that time saint and masters embrace you and hug you, take you. But if you are bound, you chose the binding. When you choose the binding, who can help you? Nobody will interfere your free will. If you are free by nature, a lot of help comes in this plane or the other plane. But if you chose binding, if you chose to be bound, ok then liberate yourself first, then come to me. There is no tragedy here. But astral travel and travel after death have a lot of similarities. Both have emotional factor involved in it, mind, ego, intellect factors. I never recommend courses which promise ”I instantly enhance your kundalini, I shoot it up…” etc. Likewise I never recommend anything like, ”Ok, instant astral travel”. Instant, like you go to toilet then go to astral and come back. For me it is nonsensical. We should be practical in spirituality. Otherwise these are all theories which you can milk on but only reach disillusionment.
One thing I would like to tell you. While living here, if you love somebody, show it. Express it. Not somebody, everybody! I know it’s difficult of you go and tell somebody ”I love you” ha ha, but in some way express it. While living you express love. After leaving, don’t cry over it. Usually what happens is we hate the person while he is alive. And after death we have a lot of love for him. Because there’s no talk back, no problems, no snoring… (ha, ha) so it’s convenient to love. But while living, we gossip about the person, we pollute the air in our life.
My suggestion is, while living, love every bird, every animal, every person in your way. Even if somebody is not so loving to you, you express love; you don’t have to choose to express hatred. Because if you by nature love to love, express it. What’s wrong? If you choose to express only positivity while you are living, there’s 100% chance that you will also leave in positivity. But if you are heavy, you are only giving forth negativity in the surroundings. Then, god help you.
You know, everybody was talking about the speed of my activity. Because I constantly ask myself, ”What else can I do with this time?” So automatically the momentum goes higher. I always feel that I’m wasting time.

Q: I constantly express love and have no problem in it, once I told my friend’s husband, ”I hope you’ll love my wife as much as I love yours.” Then my friend immediately jumped and said, ”but they are not swingers” ha ha…

A: We wear various coats. One of the heaviest coats is morality. I don’t recommend being a swinger, but I always feel my benchmark of morality is fulfilment. If we suppress an emotion… Of course if our emotion is to kill somebody, this is harming, this is violence. I don’t recommend that. But if we suppress an emotion, a deep emotion and then we move on in life, we will come back to fulfill it. This is the law of karma. A desire unfulfilled leads to another life. But if it is harmless, and if it is acceptable to the people concerned, then I do not believe it’s a problem. I strongly object violence, because it hurts. I do not recommend it. But otherwise, what are we talking about?

Q: I would like to go to the subject of thoughts and mind. Can any person create each thought or can we just choose from the thoughts that come automatically?

A: If you just observe yourself, you have no control of the thoughts. Thoughts happen, then you realise they happened. Thoughts are always triggered by karma. You have no control on the production of thoughts. But you can always remember to concentrate, to come back to your subject.

Q: I would like to ask a question about the time between 3am and 6am, because this is the subtlest time. If I choose to be awake during that time, what is the best thing to do then?

A: I would say that chanting in the spine is the best thing to do. And if chanting leads to meditation, this is the best.

Mohanji - painting by Palak Mehta
Mohanji – painting by Palak Mehta


(Mohanji’s comment on the advanced kriya breathing technique we did:)

A: Just try to rewind and see. Birth happens at a point in time, we live through time and die at a point in time. So it’s birth at one point, then life and death. Even during the day, every morning we are born, go through the life and in the evening we die in sleep. This process is condensed in a molecular state in your breathing. Inhalation is your birth, holding is your life and exhalation is your dissolution. And once you go through the process it’s almost like a correction or even fine-tuning. Because you are actually going through life and that is reduced to one day and then reduced further so you can easily correct this thing. This is why so many changes happened in most of you.

Transcribed by Biljana Vozarevic
Edited by Aviral Srivastava