Satsangs from Serbian Retreat with Mohanji, 9-14th May, 2014
Astral Travel and Connection with the Master
Q: Can you tell us a little more about connecting with you on the astral plane? How can then one do service even astrally?
A: This is not a conscious choice which you can make. It is actually happening in an almost unconscious or superconscious mode. In every deep sleep state, you have the potential to travel. You don’t need a particular training to travel astrally, and I would never recommend training, because if you induce a travel, who protects your body? Your body is like a many-bedroom house. So while you are roaming around, another soul will be entering the body. What will you do?
I never support astral travel which is induced. But spontaneously, you are travelling with me. That is my responsibility, to take care of your body. There are many people who come with me when I do some job in other locations. But that time, all the people who are coming with me, are deeply connected to my consciousness, and I take care of their bodies. So when they come back, their body is still there, as they left. I normally do not talk about astral travel because it confuses people. Some people are dishing out courses for astral travel, which I always find funny. Because you don’t need to teach a fish to swim. You already know it. And you travel in deep sleep state every time. Astral plane is just like a parental home. After every death you go there. You maybe know that place much more than your home country. There are certain fundamentals you understand. Let us not be preoccupied with this kind of stuff. I would say that if you are deeply connected to me, automatically you will reach the attitude of service, like ”What Mohanji does, I want to serve”. This is spontaneous by the soul. Then you will follow me. A lot of people follow me in other locations. And many of them come back and tell me, ”You did this…”, or ”You experienced this.” I don’t normally give much explanation. That is not necessary. If you have a memory of astral experience and you bring it down to earth, that means you have something to do with it. Just like your past life memory doesn’t stay with you, astral experience will not stay with you either. If you remembered what you were doing in your past life, you will confuse it with this life. Because it will blur.
Likewise, if you travel astrally, you see many things on the vertical time. You could see something going to happen in the future and you return with a trauma in the waking state. It is useless. So the point I’m saying is that astral travel is a reality, every person has a potential, and most of the people are travelling astrally during the deep sleep state which is three hours of the sleeping time and many of them are connected to me or not only me. There are various entities operating at that level, so many of you are connected to me in this plane, in that plane, in lifetimes… I think some of you had experience how you met me during other lifetimes, so I wanted to deliver that so that you have clarity. Because I saw many minds are still doubting, ”Why this, why that, is it worthwhile…” So now you know the connection from the past, then you know that this is a very important thing in your life. It means, current day is important. Tomorrow will be important. Every day is important. Every event is important. Everything aims to your evolution.
You can connect to my eyes before you go to bed, it’s a good idea, because then you will have that kind of quality in your sleep or in your travel. But you can’t intend to travel. And if it’s not worthwhile, you will not travel. Nor will I take you. Most of the souls who are coming with me in my other plane journeys are coming to serve. And that is spontaneous. That is not a conscious decision. Mind cannot take a decision like that. Even if mind takes a decision, it is not worthwhile in the plane beyond the waking mind. Understand, a decision in the waking mind state is worthwhile only in waking mind state. I hope that clarifies that point.
If you are able to move into your sleep state or dream state consciously, if you are able to leave your body consciously, then you have that quality or power to protect your body, too. If your movement from waking to sleep is not conscious, if it’s unconscious, and if you are not able to leave your body at will, then you need assistance. You definitely need assistance. And this is where masters come into picture. Once the master holds your hand, then the master is also responsible for the body. Our body is taken from the earth for a duration.
There are souls which are not having the power to create the body, or not having the power to enter into a womb and take a birth with the body. What they do is they use the body which is already available, but this is not possessiveness or anything like that. There are these kind of things happening in everyday life. E.g. You have a big house and you have a few people living there. You may allot certain rooms to them. How do you make sure that you are fully occupying your body is by increasing your strength. Your power. Your energy. So that you occupy your body fully and no other entity has space to enter. This way you are fully connected and fully stable. This is one of the reasons why I say before you go to bed, connect to my eyes. So that you move into my consciousness, you energise yourself so you have the protection sheet. And when you wake up, connect so that in waking state you are again connected to me. When I say ‘Me’ I’m not talking about this physical form. This physical form the same as your physical form. It can die any day or I can leave it any day. I’m talking about the consciousness which is represented by the entity called Mohanji.
When your mind or emotions are in control of you, it is very difficult to occupy your body fully. If mind is very weak, you are very strong. If mind is very strong, you are a very weak person. So when the mind is fully occupying you and the mind is controlling you, you are fully into emotions.
The soul keeps moving, let it go
For example, if some family members die, you keep crying and keep pulling them back, it affects the transit. We may think that we are having fond memories and stuff. That’s not so. You should bless them and allow them to go because they have completed their job. You should allow them to go peacefully. Instead, you are crying, etc. and you are pulling them back. So even if they want to take another body, they are constantly affected. As I said, thought is the first level of creation. Word is the second level of creation. If both have emotion, it affects somewhere. It can’t just die in the air. We have learnt that energy cannot be destroyed. So it works. I always say bless them. That is why I recommend to all your ancestors, offer the food you are eating. So it’s another kind of blessing, another kind of gratitude, so that they go on with their activity. E.g. In 2000 I was in Himalayas. One saint asked me, ”You have just had a big sorrow.” I said, ”I lost Ammu, my daughter.” He said, ”How do you say she’s your daughter?” I said, ”I thought so.” (ha ha) He said, ”I have the power to call the souls back. And I can ask them, ‘Soul, would you like to go back to your parents?’ The fundamental question the soul will ask is, ‘Of which life?’ Because it has parents in every life. In this life, of course, you are the parents. But the soul will be confused, ‘Which parents should I go to?’ ” This is as simple as that. The soul keeps moving. It has no reason to think about the tragedy, or to think, ”Oh, this was not good…” These are all our emotions and ignorance working. We will die sooner or later. And this is not a tragedy. If we are doing something positive for the world each day, the world is benefitted by our existence. Instead, we are sitting and crying in one corner, blaming everybody and creating negativity in the air. This is connected to astral travel I’m talking about. The soul is leaving for astral, but you are pulling it back all the time. We should be continuously grateful, whether the person was good or bad, it doesn’t matter. But instead, what we do? We cry and pull the soul back, ”Why did you go, what happened?” This is something which we must be aware of. How much are we hurting the soul who left? Definitely we have emotions. I’m not saying we should not have emotions, but we should have awareness as well, along with emotions. If we have awareness, we will only do the right thing.
And you can do another thing. I always tell people, it’s a very good idea, give food to other people in the name of the person. That enhances their journey. Like, you serve food in the name of the person who departed. I love this person, so I’m feeding a lot of poor people or birds or animals, in that person’s name. This is a positive thing. So in the name of that person you do so many good things that help the soul’s transit. It enhances the soul. Probably that soul can even come back to your family because you are bringing it goodness. Instead, you are only creating negativity at home, then, what will the soul do? The soul will not come back. Soul is absolutely pure. You cannot contaminate the soul. The soul has left.
Now the science say we can go back and trace the sound and bring back the soul of Jesus. Because it’s available in the ether. If you are able to travel back in time and pick up the sound particles, we can recreate what Jesus spoke. I’m not the scientist, this is what I read. But the same way, soul is energy. And it was in the body for some time. There is nothing tragic about selling the old car and buying a new one. Sooner or later we will also leave the body.
Mostly I’ve seen people crying because of selfish interest, ”Oh, what will happen to me? Who will pay my bills?” So we are very sad because we have to pay the bills ourselves now. There is an element of selfishness in us which makes us cry. Otherwise we will be objective, we would say, ”Ok, this person lived with us, I’m happy, you have given me a lot of love.” I was feeling the same when Ammu passed away. She was so deeply connected with me. But I thought for a moment, life is about so much. This is all life goes. Sooner or later you have to go. Later I realised it was the fragility of existence. Then it was very simple for me. Ok, one day I will go out this way. So now, what should I do with life? Things became very simple.
You can exist in love and you can exist in fear. These are two options. My choice is to exist in love. There is no point in existing in fear. Why I said this in connection with astral travel is because there are so many factors detrimental for our transit whether it is astral travel or the similar travel after death.
If you are a free person while living, you can travel any time. And that time saint and masters embrace you and hug you, take you. But if you are bound, you chose the binding. When you choose the binding, who can help you? Nobody will interfere your free will. If you are free by nature, a lot of help comes in this plane or the other plane. But if you chose binding, if you chose to be bound, ok then liberate yourself first, then come to me. There is no tragedy here. But astral travel and travel after death have a lot of similarities. Both have emotional factor involved in it, mind, ego, intellect factors. I never recommend courses which promise ”I instantly enhance your kundalini, I shoot it up…” etc. Likewise I never recommend anything like, ”Ok, instant astral travel”. Instant, like you go to toilet then go to astral and come back. For me it is nonsensical. We should be practical in spirituality. Otherwise these are all theories which you can milk on but only reach disillusionment.
One thing I would like to tell you. While living here, if you love somebody, show it. Express it. Not somebody, everybody! I know it’s difficult of you go and tell somebody ”I love you” ha ha, but in some way express it. While living you express love. After leaving, don’t cry over it. Usually what happens is we hate the person while he is alive. And after death we have a lot of love for him. Because there’s no talk back, no problems, no snoring… (ha, ha) so it’s convenient to love. But while living, we gossip about the person, we pollute the air in our life.
My suggestion is, while living, love every bird, every animal, every person in your way. Even if somebody is not so loving to you, you express love; you don’t have to choose to express hatred. Because if you by nature love to love, express it. What’s wrong? If you choose to express only positivity while you are living, there’s 100% chance that you will also leave in positivity. But if you are heavy, you are only giving forth negativity in the surroundings. Then, god help you.
You know, everybody was talking about the speed of my activity. Because I constantly ask myself, ”What else can I do with this time?” So automatically the momentum goes higher. I always feel that I’m wasting time.
Q: I constantly express love and have no problem in it, once I told my friend’s husband, ”I hope you’ll love my wife as much as I love yours.” Then my friend immediately jumped and said, ”but they are not swingers” ha ha…
A: We wear various coats. One of the heaviest coats is morality. I don’t recommend being a swinger, but I always feel my benchmark of morality is fulfilment. If we suppress an emotion… Of course if our emotion is to kill somebody, this is harming, this is violence. I don’t recommend that. But if we suppress an emotion, a deep emotion and then we move on in life, we will come back to fulfill it. This is the law of karma. A desire unfulfilled leads to another life. But if it is harmless, and if it is acceptable to the people concerned, then I do not believe it’s a problem. I strongly object violence, because it hurts. I do not recommend it. But otherwise, what are we talking about?
Q: I would like to go to the subject of thoughts and mind. Can any person create each thought or can we just choose from the thoughts that come automatically?
A: If you just observe yourself, you have no control of the thoughts. Thoughts happen, then you realise they happened. Thoughts are always triggered by karma. You have no control on the production of thoughts. But you can always remember to concentrate, to come back to your subject.
Q: I would like to ask a question about the time between 3am and 6am, because this is the subtlest time. If I choose to be awake during that time, what is the best thing to do then?
A: I would say that chanting in the spine is the best thing to do. And if chanting leads to meditation, this is the best.
(Mohanji’s comment on the advanced kriya breathing technique we did:)
A: Just try to rewind and see. Birth happens at a point in time, we live through time and die at a point in time. So it’s birth at one point, then life and death. Even during the day, every morning we are born, go through the life and in the evening we die in sleep. This process is condensed in a molecular state in your breathing. Inhalation is your birth, holding is your life and exhalation is your dissolution. And once you go through the process it’s almost like a correction or even fine-tuning. Because you are actually going through life and that is reduced to one day and then reduced further so you can easily correct this thing. This is why so many changes happened in most of you.
Transcribed by Biljana Vozarevic
Edited by Aviral Srivastava