Keep the Lamp Burning

From satsang during Serbian retreat in May, 2015


Attachment and letting go

Mohanji quote - Suffering is a byproduct of resistance 2

Q: You speak about attachments, bindings, letting go and accepting oneself 100%. However, some people have reached a certain age, have certain professional duties and commitments in their careers, and cannot just drop everything – in the middle of life we cannot tear up our diplomas. The only thing we may be able to change is our perception of the situation. Perhaps during a later time, we may be able to change the situation.
So what exactly are attachment and binding, and how do we choose what to let go?

A: I think the questioner has already answered his query: it is indeed about perception, all you can do is change your perception. Acceptance is a perception. Acceptance means you are not resisting the situation, you are not tearing away the certificates. You are happy, you are doing the job, the chosen job in the given environment, or the given family. You are peaceful with everything. You are changing your perception to accommodate everything, and growing old gracefully. However, resisting those things or situations will result in internal conflict and war.

Whatever you need to let go of, is up to you. Let go of what is inducing resistance. I cannot tell you to leave your husband or brother or mother – you must accommodate every situation. What you have to let go of is probably your anger or resistance, an individualistic thing. However, nobody can come up to you and tell you what you must let go of. If they are doing so, that is originating from their perception about you, which may be untrue.

An analogy: let’s say you have collected sufficient money to buy the car of your choice, a Toyota. Now when you arrive at the Toyota dealership, you notice a Mercedes showroom next door. Although you know well that a Mercedes car is going to cost at least twice as much as the Toyota you came here for, you still decide to step into that showroom. And when you see the Mercedes, you are now convinced it is the very car for you. So the earlier and later perceptions of car choices don’t match. The reality of the situation forces you to drive off in the Toyota, but now accompanied by emotions of discontent and inner resistance. You know that you will have to work for several more years in order to save up for that Mercedes.

Before you took this birth, you wanted to be a medical professional. That is why your environment in this life created that experience for you. However your mind now says something else, “no-no, this is not at all what I wanted”. No matter what other profession you take up, your mind will protest. So where will you run away or escape to? Accept what you have been given. You might consider taking up a hobby to provide the satisfaction you crave. Realize that what has been given to you, or that what is happening to you, is not an imposition – it has not been imposed on you. It was chosen, and what is manifesting or unfolding in your life cannot be changed. This is what is called destiny.

What you are referring to in your question, is actually related to mental satisfaction. This is different from karmic satisfaction. Karmic satisfaction continues to manifest through the active fulfilment of desires, in the form of that which was chosen, which is why you have become a doctor. Now to create the mental satisfaction you are missing, take up singing or dancing or boxing or anything that will satisfy that longing.

Avatars and Avadhootas

What is the hierarchical difference between an ascended master, a saint, and an avatar? Are they moving in separate ways to get to a path, or is one above the other? How do they function?


It’s quite a broad categorization and not always easy to tell one designation from the other.

Numerous beings exist, operating in various levels. Similarly to the way we have school teachers for various classes, we have various beings performing at various levels. Broadly, we can say they are all ascended masters.

Avatars happen based only on collective consciousness. They don’t make the choice of their birth. It is when a generation or a few generations crave intensely for redemption that an avatar happens. They descend for a specific duration and for a purpose or duty, then achieve that purpose and dissolve. Usually there’s no associated karma – they appear only for the sake of dharma or truthful duty. Lord Krishna, Lord Dattatreya, Jesus, and Adi Shankara may be considered avatars. They were all renunciates and saints as well.

Now many people calling themselves avatars have no real eligibility. Perhaps they adopted that label because they liked the sound of the word! (laughter). Likewise, titles given to saints are of no value either, unless it came upon them naturally. Today however, titles are chosen and used for marketing purposes.

Ascended masters operate in higher subtle dimensions. They operate as guides, helping gross seekers to evolve to higher dimensions. Some have a bodily existence and some do not, but the essential function is the same. They may transfer thoughts and guide people. They may also contact directly and speak. However, technically, embodied and disembodied masters function the same way. They choose their life span or duration – how long they are going to be on the earthly plane is up to them, and they also choose the dimension of operation. They have this choice because they are not bound by the body.

Babaji is a multi-dimensional master – the operating level is not only just on Earth.

Now saints are basically renunciates – they have renounced a certain lifestyle, opting for spirituality and detaching from mainstream life. Any seeker can be termed a saint, and a saint need not necessarily be enlightened. There are various levels here too, just like school teachers. There are those who opt to become teachers of philosophical knowledge. The garb of the ochre robe, shaved head, long hair etc are all choices they make depending on the path or order they want to follow. They follow a certain discipline for a particular duration in the mode of renunciation. Sainthood is a broad definition. Note that this is quite different from the sainthood conferred by the Christian Church.

Note also that miracles are a spontaneous thing. When dimension changes, many things just happen around you. This is not a big deal in that plane of operation. You can appear and disappear in various places. It all happens spontaneously. The action is according to necessity.

Then there are the avadhootas, very high and powerful Masters, completely unaware of their bodies, not knowing if they have eaten food, or if they have slept. They are in supreme bliss all of the time, connected to the Source, in God-consciousness 24/7. They have the ability to transform people with a mere look. Examples include Bhagavan Nityananda and Shirdi Sai Baba, who took bodies for the sake of the people.

However the position of Bhagavaan (like Bhagavaan Satya Sai Baba, or Bhagavaan Ramana Maharishi) requires the fulfilment of certain criteria. A Bhagavaan is self-illuminated. He is self-sufficient, with no need to source knowledge from outside. Knowledge comes from inside. He is unbound by any earthly material. He is not controlled by elements. He has transcended all requirements of human existence, and the duration is finite and chosen.

What it means to be connected to the Source


When I say someone is connected to the Source, I mean that they have already dissolved all their identifications. They do not exist.

The difference is between “I do” and “It happens through me”.
When I do, all my identifications are present. I have all my character traits and I have ownership.
When it happens through me, I am just like a conduit or water-pipe. Nothing stays with me.

When a healer gets emotionally involved with the one being healed, it only implies that the ego identifications of the healer still exist. Furthermore, he is interfering with the karma of the patient.

Now some patients may also choose to hold on to their diseases, because they want to experience them. What is the cause of the illness that manifests in someone? In 80% of cases, it is trapped emotion.

How do emotions get trapped and why does someone entertain emotion at all?
Because of ignorance. Me, mine, I – all these are signs of ignorance. The physical body is temporary, taken for a particular duration, from the first to the last heartbeat. After that last heartbeat, the body is of no use anymore. However, while you live temporarily in that body, you often carry a lot of the weight of identifications, such as your name, your qualifications, your social position, what you do, what you say, what you look like. All these are weights on the system.

One of the major weights is ego. You can note its influence when you realize how in thinking about other people, you are wanting them to perceive you in a certain way, how you compare yourself with them, or how you want to impress them. And when someone says “I hate a person (or situation, time, environment, etc)”, what makes them hate so intensely? It is again ignorance. It is because of not understanding that everything that happens in your life, is happening because it has been chosen. Whether it causes happiness or sorrow, it originates from your choice.

So, when we ourselves have chosen a particular time, a particular space, a particular situation, a particular face, a particular environment for our birth and experience, what really is there to complain about? If you are sitting here and listening to me right now (which I sure hope you are), it is due to karma too. Everything is conglomerated, pre-planned in that mode.

So if in that mode, you happen to be a healer, with the attitude of letting the healing happen through you if it was karmically meant to be, then you are just being a channel for healing. Nothing will happen to you.

On the other hand, you might choose to get emotionally involved with patients, and harbor a desire for them to get better. You might forget or ignore that the cause of disease was the patient’s free-will. Then you attract that to you.

However nothing will stay with a healer truly connected to the Source, because the existence of that connection implies that he is free from ego identifications – he and the Source are one.

Q: How to stay unbiased?

A: Be objective. Realize your role is just that of a channel. If you project yourself as more than you are, or as a guru to impress others, understand that ego is at play. However if recognition by others is happening naturally and spontaneously as a consequence of your actions, that is ok. No comparisons, no judgements, no slandering. Do the job to the best of your ability, and move on.

The more dissatisfaction, the more births you will take


I don’t think that you’re actually bothered about the next birth.
We know that there is the possibility of rebirth, but rebirth need not always follow or even be necessary.
However when desires keep increasing, a way or a platform has to be provided in order to exhaust them. If the current platform is insufficient in providing the means for that satisfaction, another platform may be needed. That may be a continuing process. The more dissatisfaction you have, the more lives you will need.
There is really no compulsion for a next life. The Chinese government has banned rebirth – a birth cannot take place without permission! (hey, it is even a law there). (laughter)

Reincarnation is not a necessary or compulsory thing. It is up to you.

Keep the lamp burning


Once there were two saints, living in two different caves in the Himalayas. One of them, totally blind, lived downhill from the other saint who could see. Every day the blind saint would walk up the hill to visit his friend and return before dark. However one day when he was visiting his friend, the blind saint happened to stay a little longer than usual. The sun had set and it was now quite dark. So his friend, the saint who could see, lit a lamp and placing it in his hand said, “Keep this lamp with you.”

The blind saint replied,” Are you making fun of me? I can’t see anything. How does it matter whether I have a lamp in hand or not?” He was a little upset.

So the friend replied, “No, no, don’t misunderstand me. It is true that it cannot help you to see. However others can certainly see you by its light. So please do hold on to the lamp.” The blind saint held the lamp and left. And it helped. Nobody ran into him since they could see him. There was no collision, no accident.

The blind saint continued the daily visits to this friend up the hill, most of the time returning back to his own cave before sunset. Then there came another day, when again he stayed on until dark, and just like before, he carried a lamp and walked down. However this time, before he reached his cave, someone collided with him so hard that he fell backwards. He was very upset and asked, “Are you blind? Can you not see? Couldn’t you see the lamp in my hand?”
The person he collided with replied, ”So sorry Swamiji, but your lamp has gone out. There is no light, so I couldn’t see you.”

Keeping the lamp burning is our job. Others will see. This is a very important story you should remember and ponder on.

All you have to do is keep the lamp burning. And do not think you can see with this lamp. A burning lamp has no interest in its own light. Look outside – no tree eats its own fruit. This is the truth of existence. If you understand this, you understand all the philosophies of life. There is nothing more to learn. Keep the lamp burning.

To persist in effort or to let go

right decision wrong decision choice

Q: How do we know when to remain persistent and move forward, to push further or when to let go? Of course I can reconcile that the situation was meant to be a certain way, but sometimes I am not sure whether to put in more efforts and continue persevering?

A: Do you really have a choice? We have this feeling that we are the decision-makers at various points in life, say for example in pursuing a degree or going for post-graduation etc. That is an illusion. However, there is also no way you can be stagnant either. You certainly have to put in some work, the job demands that effort. Suppose I want to go to my room from here – that will require me to step out and walk. Merely sitting at this spot and repeating the intent to myself is not going to make it happen. Every point in life is like that.

When we speak of having various options, usually it also means that we know all the possible outcomes connected with those options. However when we decide that we are not going to concern ourselves with the outcomes, the moment we stop worrying or getting anxious about results, our activity then becomes spontaneous. Connection to the result of the action binds us and that is the reason for our success or failure.

If we always use this criterion of not connecting actions and results, we can achieve a complete and glorious life (note that by glory, I do not mean awards or accolades). When you are perfect in what you have to do, success and glory are a natural and spontaneous consequence. Don’t however fall into the error of assuming that you created the success and glory.

Today, even though I never invited any of you to come here and listen to me (I have never even physically met some of you before), this get-together still happened. That is how it works. Realize that situations and events, specific to a particular place, person or time are all happening spontaneously. Your degree of freedom lies in the ability to perform to your best with the resources available to you.

You cannot be at a different place, at this time. By the time you decide to be in another place, that second is gone. That’s why the acceptance of a time, place, situation, is very important for success. Definitely do apply for a different job if you feel like it. If it comes, it comes. Ultimately, be at peace always. If you use your intellect and don’t get too emotional about anything, you should most likely be fine.

Transcribed by Geeta Iyer
Edited by Caroline Moscato

Partial Faith is Useless

How Masters Heal – To Hug or not to Hug!

Question: How do you heal people through hugging?

Mohanji hug... BG 3rdMay2014

Mohanji: Understand that all of us are operating in our own frequencies and vibrations; the lighter and subtler you become, the more you become like a magnet. In spirituality, subtlety is equal to power and strength. So, what happens when subtlety increases and you become like a magnet? Wherever you go and whatever you do, you collect certain negativities, and with spontaneous compassion you burn them through you and your system. The moment you feel that you are doing it, you suffer. If you are sure and you are confident that it is happening through you, it doesn’t matter, it comes and just goes.

Something starts melting and releasing.

All illnesses have their basis in trapped emotions. Emotions are trapped as created illness.

Where are these emotions sitting? They are sitting in the mind. Thus, when a higher energy comes in contact with this structure of the mind and emotions, there is a change that happens in the frequency and vibratory levels and so something starts melting and releasing.

Where will it go? It goes to the subtle. It gets attracted to the magnet. That person gets relieved from that problem. If that person may have individually taken, let’s say, three years to complete that problem (because it has to work its way out), this goes out and reduces it to a few months. The collected material which comes into the Master doesn’t stay in him because he doesn’t hold it. It travels through him, and in a few days it gets finished and released.

Imagine there are some ice cubes here and there is a blow heater. If you point the blow heater like this onto the ice, do you think it will melt? It will not melt easily because there is insufficient heat to melt the ice. So a quick hug doesn’t matter because nothing will come of it, but if you hug long enough, for instance, if you hold the heat long enough near the ice, it will melt. Likewise if the hug is long enough, then there is a transfer and transformation.

My advice to people who are practising and evolving, is you must avoid such contact. I had an experience in early 2007 – 2008 where I was in a communion and a Master said, “It is better to slow down because you cannot handle so many people right now. Walk slowly. Take one step at a time.” So it is important that you are self-sufficient before you start giving, otherwise you will collapse.

No Master is interested in interfering with anybody’s karma. He should not. This is the ground rule. No body interferes in anybody’s karma because you created it. Karma is saturated desire or, desire saturated is karma. You had a desire for a particular experience and that became karma so nobody externally, whether it is a master or a disciple, has any right to intercept anybody’s karma. This is the basic ground rule of spirituality.

So how do people get healed when coming into contact with Masters? Jesus said, “Let your faith heal you”. Thus it is faith that opens one up, and then the Master takes over. Faith makes you surrender and when you surrender, the illness naturally leaves you. I have said it is better to have zero faith or full faith, not partial faith because partial faith is absolutely useless. Okay, let me see what this guy can do?! There is nothing he can do, because he is not your cleaner you know (laughter). It is best to have full faith or no faith. If you have no faith then you have the entire way to go. It is still possible, there is still a big possibility. If you have full faith, okay you have arrived. However, partial faith is neither here nor there and there can be a lot of expectations, disappointments and crises. All these things are related to having partial faith.

Mohanji quote - It is better to have full faith or zero faith...

Trust Yourself

Many people do not even trust themselves, so how then can they trust another person? Thus whenever people ask the question about trust, I always tell them, first you must learn to trust yourself. This is where you should start. I also say to people, don’t trust me before trusting yourself because if you cannot trust yourself, then you cannot trust me either. Also, please do not trust me because I look good, or because I speak well or because I smell good (laughter). Trust me because you trust yourself. Then the basis is trust, which is very strong. The foundation is strong. Otherwise, we are playing a game of hide and seek. Some days you win, some days I win. There is no end to this game (laughter). Mostly life is like that. We are playing hide and seek and we are never addressing the situation. Either we are avoiding and escaping, or compromising. Both are weaknesses. Avoiding is a weakness, and compromising is also a weakness. Accepting and addressing is strength. If we cannot accept and address ourselves, which is a basic thing, then what else can you address? That is why Osho said, “Forget about spirituality, first learn to accept yourself”. That is the most difficult thing you will ever face in life. If you are able to accept yourself 100%, then you have already become spiritual. Then there is no other spirituality apart from this. Instead we are looking for spirituality outside of us, and not addressing and accepting ourselves. We often do not understand ourselves. It is not happening. I am sure some of you will have seen a Facebook post of mine, “A spiritual Guru is almost like your plumber or your electrician”, and you contact him when you are in deep crisis! (laughter). This is our situation. ‘What will happen to me in the future?’ This is one of the usual questions that I get. I tell them, “my friend, I don’t even know my future, how will I tell you your future?!”. Even if I knew the future, then why should I arrest you to a reality which is created by me? I like to give you freedom, not a concept. It is easy to sell a concept. It is like saying that you can think about everything except a ‘black monkey’. What will you then think of? This is exactly what is happening in the world. They are always telling you what you must see, but they are never telling you where to look. They are not allowing you the freedom of seeing what you like to see. This is not spirituality, this is binding.

So coming back to the point. When you become very subtle and you cleanse out of compassion, not out of anything else, just out of sheer compassion for the fellow being, then you churn it through you without ownership. It never stays with you. Your body just becomes a means for a release.

How to trust ourselves when there are so many concepts?

It is very simple. Understand yourself. Look at yourself. Feel yourself. Understand what makes you angry and what makes you sad. Certain places make you happy and certain people make you happy. Certain people make you agitated. It is like a room, when some people enter, the room brightens up because you like the person and you like their energy. Likewise when someone leaves, the room brightens up because they left! (laughter).

So understand what you actually are. First and foremost, try to find you.

Shake hands with yourself, know yourself

In two words, it is ‘accept yourself’. Don’t try to pretend. Never pretend. You should be established in silence to give silence. Silence is equal to less tps. (thoughts per second). When there are no thoughts per second, then you are absolutely in silence. All other forms of silence are pretensions. If you keep verbally quiet, other people are happy, but that is not transforming the mind and person or the tps. So the whole point is know yourself. Be with yourself, understand yourself, accept yourself. This also makes it easy to seek relationships. The moment you start accepting yourself, you have many relationships because others start accepting you. The reason somebody cannot accept another person is because you have not accepted yourself. How can other people accept you? We want everybody to accept us but we cannot accept ourselves! This is our situation. If you take care to spend some time with yourself – I am not even talking about meditation or spirituality – just be with yourself, just understand your thought process, just understand your vibrations and frequency, then you will automatically start accepting. You have never shaken hands with yourself. You have only been shaking hands with other people. Shaking hands with other people really doesn’t matter. Other people have their own things to do. If you start accepting yourself, and if you start merging with yourself, then the whole world will be with you. The whole world will want to see you and want to look at you. They will come and accept you, even without your effort.

All the powers and all the siddhis that we have ever talked about, everything is rooted in ‘silence’. Whatever skills we may learn and perform, it is inner silence itself which gives us all the skills. When you do things without that kind of balance there is a greater chance of regrets later on because things often happen unconsciously, through emotions, spontaneously, or not in a positive way. Whenever the root cause of an activity is via the emotional, then there is always pain.


Mohanji quote - Your state is absolute silence

Did we fall from spirituality into the physical body?

We have scientific proof that when an atom is dissected in a particular way, raw energy is released. That is what we are talking about. Reversing the process, when energy is conglomerated it becomes an atom. Thus energy has various frequencies, various levels of subtlety. Only a certain frequency of energy can create an atom. Creation is based on energy. All that we see, eventually rolls back into the energy form, has the potential to roll back into the energy form, because every matter has a duration. In the scriptures, it says don’t think that the table, the chair, the wall and the materials around you do not have life. If you go to the molecular level, you can see movement. Thus every material, whether it is animate or inanimate, has life in it. That is why we need sensitivity. We need to be very sensitive. The more sensitive we are, the more we can see life in everything. There will be no wastage, nor will we think about destroying things. Thus this is a subtlety which we need to cultivate within our children because they have to move the world after us.

Creation is based on energy. I could spend a lot of time explaining this, but for now let’s just say that creation has its own subtlety levels, which created eras. The four eras put together become one conglomeration. So on the Earth plane, we are currently in the eighth particular phase of this evolution.

1. The subtlest possibility is called the Golden Age. The Golden Age consists of people who are of a very highly elevated consciousness. They have all the powers and are not dependent on any assistance from anyone. They are completely self-sufficient. This age has a duration of 1.7 billion years.

2. Then comes the next age, which lasts approximately 1.4 million years. This era is the era of duality, the good and the bad. There is a struggle to preserve dharma, which is truthfulness on one side, and selfishness on the other side. The good and the evil, greed and selfishness are in conflict. There is a conflict between these aspects on external grounds.

3. Then comes the next age, which lasts 800,000 years. The struggle between good and evil closes in and becomes closer. Conflict is more or less between the family.

4. Then comes our current time, which lasts 400,000 years, and where the conflict is within us, within the individual.

Thus you can see we have moved away from a frequency where everyone was self sufficient, fully aware and there was neither hatred nor negativity. Step by step we have come down to a level where greed, power, hatred, wars and all these things control human beings. There are less people in the first level because not everyone can be in that very high level of elevated consciousness. A lot of people can be born into the lower frequency. Thus if the population is 7000 in the golden age, it is 7 billion in this age. In the Golden Age life was also different. You decided when to take birth and you decided when you should die, because you had full control. It was not that we were keeping and maintaining the body, falling and dying at one point in time. It was all individualistic, that means there was nothing controlled by the subconscious, it was fully controlled by the conscious. The degeneration was from fully conscious to fully unconscious. In the Golden Age, birth and death were up to you, over a duration of 1.7million years, and you could take birth for one million years or one year. It doesn’t matter at that level. Then comes the next plane, where duality starts, the negative and positive start. There, the lifespan was 10,000 years, again the population was not large. Then came the era just before our current state, lasting 1200 years of life. That is when Lord Krishna existed. He lived for only 125 years. Actually he died very young, he had a very short life span. As per our current standards, 125 years is a very, very long life, but our lifespan in this era is only 100 years.

This is the degeneration. These four put together are one phase. The Golden Age plus the other three ages, are one. We are at the eighth conglomeration now. So life always moves from high consciousness to low consciousness, then again a recycling happens towards high consciousness. And this goes on.

So how is Earth shifting and adjusting to this? It does so through the polar shift, which is what we are experiencing now. The polar shift helps in the recycling. This is the phase we are experiencing now. This is why we are experiencing greed-based governments, wars, plus natural calamities. This is all aiding the times for recycling. One route is shifting to another route, where route means the basis, or the platform. We are on an emotional platform right now, this is the basis that is now operating. An emotional platform means dealing with everything emotionally, in a manner where there is no continuity. There is anger, hatred, greed, wrong concepts, and religions are playing games. All these things are in the emotional plane because emotion is the best way to manipulate people.

Where are we shifting to? We are shifting to the ‘intellect’ route. The intellect route is where people operate through better awareness. Mind clarified is intellect. When we are using our intellect, we are never emotional. We are not angry, we are not having hatred, and we don’t work on the basis of greed. Intellect also means give, live and let live, give and let every one survive. It is at that level, rather than ‘let me have everything’. This shift towards intellect itself along with the polar shift, can remove almost one third of all beings in the world. You will see so many things going on around the world. Death, destruction, annihilation, all these things are happening in the world right now. If there were 7000 (I am just giving a number here) elevated souls living in the Golden Age, they are still here. These people can leave their body anytime they want, but they continue to be here. These people are still here guiding people, and telling them “look here, this is not what you are. You are operating in a delusion, you are much higher than this’. This is constantly being told, but people don’t understand. People want the small things: I want to educate myself, get a job, get married, have children, have a life. So we cannot get out of this cycle. The higher beings say ‘this is all just a role play, you are much higher’. This is constantly being told. In every generation there are masters connected from the Golden Age operating in this plane also.

In earlier eras, the kings or the rulers were dharma-oriented, they were duty bound, operating in truthful duty. Thus they used to consult with the Saints. They consulted them by asking whether this was good for the country and good for the people? That came down to a level where they no longer checked with the Saints, but started checking with the people who were selling things. Then the whole degeneration started affecting the world. (Read more about eras in Changing the Frequency Changes Your Life)

If there is wastewater, there can be a lot of mosquitos breeding. What do mosquitos do? They drink blood, and they also spread diseases. Thus the degeneration happened through time and created a time on Earth similar to a breeding ground for many mosquitos. You see them in the society, they drink blood and spread diseases. This is the sign of the times. What is the solution? Total destruction. So at each shift now the saints are still there (about 7000 people), and they are constantly telling the governments and the people, ‘look here you are doing the wrong thing, don’t waste your time. Connect to God, you are much higher than you think you are’.


Address the real you, with pretentions you cannot evolve!

We have carried a seed of each lifetime into this lifetime. Remember that all those lifetimes have left an impression, a mark in this canvas of consciousness. All these impressions are part of this life also. So don’t think that you are this particular animal that you see in the mirror! You are much deeper. There is a history attached to you and that history is manifesting as your character, as your constitution, as your awareness, all those things are connected to that history. Thus it is important that you are aware of yourself in this life so that you do not carry this forward into other lives. Your blueprint contains all your lifetimes. Thus each individual blueprint is a clear sign of who you are, not what you demonstrate yourself to be. We demonstrate ourselves to be a great personality, so many things which we show on the outside. This is just a protection, but the blueprint is the real thing. This is exactly what we are addressing through these retreats: the real you. If you do not address that real you, you will continue to carry on with this pretentious life. We dress ourselves up properly before we leave the house, we keep a face that is good for society, this is how we normally live. This pretension is why we cannot evolve. Then we request Masters or Gods to “help us”. So it’s like you are holding onto a lot of things, while saying “Please take all this away from me”. The Gods and Masters are ready to release you from all of these things, but you are not releasing it yourself. This is the whole point. I cannot say it more directly than this!

Transcribed by a volunteer from the UK
Edited by Caroline Moscato

Talk on Shirdi Sai Baba


Though I had heard about Shirdi Sai Baba many years ago, I considered him just another saint and had not given him too much thought.


In 2004 on my return from Iraq, someone requested to film an interview with me on the subject of spirituality in management. At that time, I had not yet started teaching. This was being filmed as a conversation on a stroll by the beach. It so happened that the first shot was right in front of a Shirdi Sai temple. I did not know anything about him at that time. But just like I always do when near the shrine of a saint, I offered my respect and surrender in the form of prostrations at the feet of Baba’s idol. In exactly two weeks, I was in Shirdi, and I consider this a miracle.


Soon after the filming of the interview, I happened to be in a bookstore in Mumbai. I found myself asking for a book on Shirdi Sai Baba, though I had not walked in with any intention of purchasing one. This book was the Sai Satcharita. I started reading it and as mentioned earlier, reached Shirdi not long after. Stepping into the temple felt like I had finally reached home; it was such a great feeling. My visits continued and the connection grew. Later my job took me to Dubai, and when I had to visit Mumbai for a meeting, I planned a trip to Shirdi as well. I made arrangements for a cab to go to Shirdi straight from the airport. While at the airport, I was talking on the phone to a friend, a saint with powers to foresee. He remarked that a big miracle was awaiting me at Shirdi. The human mind being the way it is, my mind then tuned to expecting one, and other things went out of focus.

Mohanji feeling the Saligram stone gifted by Sai Baba to Nanasaheb Dengle. Photo taken  in December 2015, while filming in Shirdi. More photos


After reaching Shirdi, I told the cab driver I needed to get materials for the dhuni, giving him sufficient money to purchase them. We proceeded to Dwarkamai. The setup for the darshan is that the line moves one-way only. I placed the offerings into the dhuni and was heading to the exit door when an old man came in with a child, stopped me, and held my hand. He had actually walked in through the exit. It didn’t occur to me at that time how improbable that was. I doubt if there was any other witness either. He addressed me, or rather commanded, “Idhar aao, sar idhar rakho” (Come here and place your head here). This was on a pillar that Baba used to lean on every day, when he lived there till 1918. I obeyed, spontaneously placing my head on the pillar, my mind blank. But the memory of that firm grip on my hand remains. Then he said, “Ab jaao” (Now leave). I obeyed and left. In any case, one can’t linger because of the constant flow of devotees.

When we were preparing to drive back to Mumbai, I called my saint friend again and told him I had not seen anything that could be described as a miracle – no spectacle or jaw-dropping incident. He asked me if it wasn’t good enough that Baba himself had come to meet me? That’s when it dawned on me that the old man had been Baba himself! And of course, he always chooses a form different from the picture we imagine in our heads – he may appear as a beggar or a bird, or in any form of his choice. And only if it is his will, can we realize his presence.

That was the turning point of my existence. Baba asked me to put my head on the pillar he used to lean on. That was the highest surrender I could have possibly done on the spiritual path in 2004. Every later visit to Shirdi also felt great with special significance each time. But it is important to be aware that the mind likes repetition and expects something every time. In true and complete surrender, there will be no expectation. Baba is more active today than he was when he was alive, when he had to work with the constraints and limitations of a physical body and the associated personality. People create mental images. We think that if Baba appears, it must be in the form that we see in his pictures. That cannot be true.


Shirdi Sai Baba, original photos
Shirdi Sai Baba, original photos


Another occurrence involved a great artist named Sudhakar Kaskiwalla (now in his seventies), who had once worked as a set designer for the producer and actor, Raj Kapoor. His father and grandfather had lived with Baba in Shirdi and so there was a very deep connection. He paid a visit to our home in Kerala. When I presented him with a gift of two pictures of Baba, within just five minutes his son called from Bangalore and asked him, “Papa, if you’re passing this way, I’d like you to please bring me two pictures of Shirdi Baba.”

Even though disabled by a paralytic attack, Kaskiwalla had been inspired to do a sketch of Baba. Later when I visited him, he showed me the sketch. He narrated that long ago when he had visited Shirdi with that sketch, some people who had lived with Baba were still alive. On seeing the sketch, those people were simply amazed at its resemblance to the Baba of their memories, and wonderstruck how Kaskiwalla could have drawn such an absolute likeness without ever having seen Baba. The sketch was treated reverently like a blessing from Baba and puja offered to it at home. Many copies have been made of the picture, so I requested Kaskiwalla for a copy, but he was silent. Then just as I was taking leave from his place, he asked me to wait, and taking down the original sketch, he offered it to me! I was overwhelmed because to me this was too priceless a piece, made from the heart like a miraculous living image of Baba, confirmed by Baba’s contemporaries. I kept insisting that a copy would be just fine, but he pressed on saying that I deserved it. Feeling that it wouldn’t be right to accept without paying, I offered to do so. But he refused to take anything saying the piece was beyond price labels. But since I kept insisting, he said to make an offering instead at the picture of his art guru, which I did. I still have the picture today in my house in Kerala.

Shirdi Sai and a dog, original photo
Shirdi Sai and a dog, original photo



I have experienced many, many such incidents in life. It was a long cherished desire of ours to construct a Shirdi Sai temple in the Ammucare village in Kerala. We ran into funding problems, so we thought of building it at our Maharashtra ashram instead, but still faced financial issues. A friend, an ardent Sai devotee who has visited Shirdi almost 4000 times, was going to be visiting Shirdi again, and we asked him to surrender our thought at Baba’s feet there. He did so, praying to Baba to grant it if it was His will. As he came out of the temple and was getting into the car, a man approached and handed him a heavy package saying, “You are planning to construct a Sai temple, here’s something for that purpose”. Our friend opened the package to find Baba’s padas or feet in marble, meant to be installed in the temple. When he looked up, the man was gone. Baba himself had delivered his approval! Those padas are currently in our pooja room or home shrine since the temple is not yet a reality, though it soon will be, if Baba wills it.

Shirdi Sai sitting in Dwarakamai, original photo



Another incident that occurred was when we were dealing with a business venture, which wasn’t doing well and we wanted to wind up and close shop. Our chartered accountant directed us to get back all the shares distributed to various people, and submit them to the government for nullification. Locating the shareholders was proving to be very difficult, in spite of our best efforts. The deadline date for submission was nearing and I explained to the accountant how impossible it was, to get hold of all the shares again. The next morning, my father opened the door to our pooja room at home as usual, and saw an envelope sitting on top of Baba’s marble padas. Opening it, we found a bunch of papers that contained every single share that had been distributed at the start of the business venture. It was astounding: nobody could have gone and collected them – most of the shareholders were untraceable.


V     The Navanath Tradition

Mohanji_DattaShirdi Sai Baba is a guru of the Nath tradition, a tradition formulated by Lord Dattatreya based on the instructions of Lord Krishna. Lord Krishna, an avatar of Mahavishnu, had incarnated in order to preserve dharma on earth. In order to continue that mission after his passing away, Lord Krishna summoned to earth the Navanarayanas or Nine Narayanas of the cosmos (really extensions of Mahavishnu) and asked them to establish the Navanath sampradaya or Navanath tradition. Adinath, the first of nine Naths in the tradition, is Lord Shiva. He was followed by Matsyendranath, Gorakshanath and several others- the tradition flows forever. The text Sripada Srivallabha Charithamrutham mentions the saint Sripada, incarnation of Lord Dattatreya, calling upon Hanumanji to take birth as Shirdi Sai Baba. Hanumanji is an immortal or chiranjeevi, so Shirdi Sai Baba may be considered an amsha or part of him.

The distinct feature of the Navanath tradition is the absence of formal procedures or teachings; everything happens in the presence of the guru. Proximity to the guru is paramount; by just being present in his energy field, one gets cleansed and liberated. Navnath1

Shirdi Sai Baba often asked for the two coins of shraddha (devotion) and saboori (patience) from those who came to him. These two may be considered to be like walking sticks for any seeker in the tradition. The path may sound simple but it is difficult in practice – since even a speck of ego or doership is unacceptable. Total surrender to the guru or master is a must. The importance of this is reflected in a quote by Swami Muktananda- ‘I never asked my master why’. Often, no explicit guidance or instruction is given by the guru. Yet everything is delivered. Shirdi Baba himself said that though his own guru was very powerful, he taught him nothing but delivered everything. Actually nothing can be taught verbally: teaching by talking is an activity or expression of the mind. It is really in beingness that the disciple receives the transmission.


I have numerous stories about Baba. Several accounts are from people whose lives changed for the better after they received the Sai Satcharita book from me. Baba operates 24/7.
Today people from all over the world visit Shirdi- not because it is a fancy place, but because their experiences created faith and brought them there. You can see the faith brimming in their eyes. Baba never behaved according to norms and frames in his lifetime. Like any Nath guru, he was unpredictable. He was taken to court, some thought him a madman, others were disillusioned by his mannerisms. Historically, spiritual masters have always been misunderstood by their society. Examples are Jesus and Sant Jnaneshwar. Jnaneshwar lived in the Maharashtra region of India and attained liberation by age 22. He and his siblings had been orphaned in childhood and all were highly advanced spiritually. But society treated them very cruelly, pushing the family to suicide. Such societies have always existed, unable to understand subtlety and persisting in the materialistic view.

Baba’s enduring popularity shows that saburi or patience worked beyond his passing away in 1918. He is more popular today than when he was alive. People often have a hard time acknowledging a guru’s stature when they meet him in the flesh. People arrive with some kind of mental image of what an enlightened master should look like and how he should behave. When the guru’s personality doesn’t match up to that image, they are shocked – “Oh, I didn’t expect the guru to behave that way” or “What, he smokes a chillum”. Baba sometimes would express interest in a new brand of cigarettes; he shouted and screamed at other times. This kind of commonplace behavior would confuse people, creating conflicts in their minds. What is not known is that a guru, a liberated being, never ever feels pushed to talk or act in a certain way, or maintain a certain appearance. A true guru is free in the real sense of the word, unbound by a thing, person, situation or habit. And Baba was always in absolute beingness – he was everything and he was nothing. This truth most people could not understand.

If you do not demolish preconceived notions or concepts of the mind, you will be unable to catch the truth; it will slip past. If you hold on to a mental picture of Baba, imagining that he appears only in that form or body, it will be difficult for you to “see” him. Instead if you drop that mental picture and reach for the consciousness that Baba is operating in, that will be a genuine enduring connection where you will be able to actually feel and experience the oneness. Otherwise you are only talking of a few miracles, just mild expressions of the huge Consciousness. Look upon Baba as omnipresent, powerful, ever available and surrender to him without expectation, without barriers, never asking for anything. Everything will be delivered. Why would you go to Shirdi asking for worldly, mundane things when Baba can merge you with his own or Shiva consciousness?



There was a devotee, a woman named Radhakrishna Mayi living in Shirdi near Baba. She became pregnant and Baba was blamed: that was the level to which petty minds were stooping in order to torment him. Of course today we know that he was beyond all that. But Baba never felt the need to answer to such people or seek their approval. He had incarnated with a purpose, just like Jesus, to do what rightfully needed to be done at that time. There was no deviation from that purpose, but remember that his body was like any other human’s regarding food and sleep, and subject to pain, decay and death. Thus we must understand the entity in absoluteness. Otherwise limited vision will cause us to miss the truth – a reason why many people are not attaining the highest point in the path of spirituality. Disillusionment or fall will happen afterwards and it takes a long time to climb back up.

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Transcribed by Geeta Iyer
Edited by Aviral Srivastava

Achieve Balance in Life

An interview with Mohanji that took place on 27th February 2016, and was published in the Speaking Tree magazine


Achieve balance in your life by maintaining 80 per cent practicality and 20 per cent spirituality, says MOHANJI to PRITI AGRAWAL

Why is there so much suffering?

■ Suffering does not exist except in the mind. Every situation or experience helps us evolve.You are born free, and you are only bound by your mind. If you have that clarity, then every situation you face is a step towards ultimate liberation.Nothing can bind you. For instance, Nelson Mandela was in jail for 30 years, but he never felt bound,he was fully himself.That’s why when he came out, he delivered the message of world peace. If he was bound by his mind,he would have delivered the message of hatred.Therefore, it’s our own perception which we can use to free ourselves.

How does one face life’s challenges?

■ Number one is acceptance — first accept your own self, because you created this existence as an individual. Second, acceptance of others such as a material, a person, a situation, you have come across in your life — they are things you chose for yourself.You can’t be any other person.Everything is related to our nonacceptance.The moment you are not satisfied with what you have,you will be reborn, because you are not happy with this body. So fundamentally, you should be happy with what is available, then everything comes to you and calamity does not exist at all. Every step is a step towards liberation. Take life as it comes to you without escaping or avoiding it, and you will be liberated. If you experience pain, know that nothing can stay forever. Pain and pleasure come and go, but you float over it and that’s life.Then there is grace which comes,when you have faith in energy that is much higher and more conscious.

What will make us more conscious of other species?

■This is our misconception that human beings own the earth.Earth equally belongs to all beings. But human beings have over-populated the planet, and started operating on the basis of conquest and control.Eventually, it has become a species divide. All the other species are at one side and human beings are on the other.Therefore, nature has become imbalanced. If we don’t realise the pain and fear of other beings, there is no point in meditation. First we have to create balance and take the responsibility and enjoy what we have created.Then the world will become a better place. I don’t believe in spirituality which is impractical. If we teach something that nobody can use, then what is the purpose of that teaching? I would say that we should focus on 80 per cent practicality and 20 per cent spirituality. If we ignore the pain of other beings and sit and meditate then what is the use of such spirituality? It is just a mask. Spiritual people should come forward and do something to spread awareness that violence only leads to violence. I always endorse nonviolence. Let more and more people adopt the principles of nonviolence then the thought will turn into action. If you are eating nonvegetarian food, then be aware of what you are eating. Don’t be an ignorant consumer. Don’t eat anything unconsciously. First level is awareness. We need to be aware where it is coming from, how it is being processed. First have a clear picture about what you are eating then give importance to your taste. So first is clarity, then taste. If you eat anything with awareness, then you eat less.You eat too much when you eat unconsciously. I don’t want anybody to change a habit by force for then it will not stay.We have craving for more food after having it already, because most of the time we are not aware of what we are experiencing. Through natural awareness, you can overcome a habit.

What is the power of gratitude and how does it work?

■ Gratitude should begin from you saying — I am grateful that I am alive, I am breathing and I have reasonably good health, I have food to eat and I have shelter. If you establish yourself in personal gratitude,then it overflows to become public gratitude.We should teach this to children and ask them not to complain,be happy with what they have. Be happy and grateful without any reason as you are alive; you have love and are protected by someone. If you practise gratitude then grace flows. Gratefulness is practised with humility and it is egoless.You can never pretend to be grateful,for this is natural.The moment you pretend to be grateful, it becomes fake.Gratefulness comes from the heart.

How does one popularise the concept of an inner pilgrimage so that it becomes as popular as travel?

■When you travel to the mountains or any pilgrimage site, something opens up inside.You are living in a frame at home and you may not think beyond it,but when you go to a different location, some dimension opens up. But God does not sit there. An upanishad says,“Please forgive me, because I tried to put you in a name, in a form and in a place, while you are everywhere.”We don’t go to spiritual sites thinking that God resides there.When you go there and you come across difficulties, then the dimension opens up for you to become a different person.A personality shift happens.That way, a pilgrimage is good, because every location is an extension of yourself.Realisation can happen at the time of pilgrimage or at any other time.Everybody eventually comes back home to themselves.You may go anywhere,and you may meet many masters and people, but finally you realise that none of these things are important; everything is within.Then you look at yourself and realisation happens.

What is the state of being enlightened?

■ Freedom from the mind! Everything is an extension of yourself, so you don’t feel disconnected and lonely. Because I and everything around me is me — whether it’s something materialistic, a person or a situation — it’s all me and belongs to me. Real freedom is that you don’t want anything and are not bound by anything.You are happy all the time whether anything is available or not, whether somebody is there or not. Happiness has no barriers.That is total liberation and you can also call it enlightenment.Speaking Tree magazine
Achieve balance in your life by maintaining 80 per cent practicality and 20 per cent spirituality, says MOHANJI to PRITI AGRAWAL