Mohanji’s Message on Corona Virus Pandemic – 18th March 2020

Hello friends,

We have been witnessing the developments in the world. We have seen the economic meltdown taking root, taking its shape. We have seen how countries react. We have seen how people react and how depressing it is to be uncertain about anything. We are seeing all this. Are you witnessing this drama unfolding? Witness! It’s interesting to watch. It is also interesting to see what happens inside us.

Human greed or human selfishness has divided the world so much in the name of religion, in the name of language, in the name of so many other factors. But many of these divisions did not give any value to human existence, this is what I feel. I strongly feel that. Humanity has not improved over the years, in the last 50 years, hundred years, 150 years, or 200 years. We have over emphasized on religions, religious divisions and finally, we ended up looking at people in terms of religions, not humans, not a species. Essentially, we need to look at everything as one. Every species has its own value. Every human being is from one species – human species. So, what should be the right operating method? What should be the religion? Humanity!  What is the right sign of refinement? Kindness, compassion, selflessness. So, if selfishness has divided the world, it takes selflessness to unite the world. This is a great time and opportunity to unite the world through selflessness, through goodness, through kindness, through unconditional love, through compassion. It is a very good opportunity.

Today, I heard that all the shopping malls are closed, all the film, movie theatres are closed, all the swimming pools and gyms are closed, and airports are almost closed with very few flights. When all these things are happening, it means most of our public, social gathering, locations and occasions are taken away.

How do we feel?

Mohanji - satsang - India-March 2020

We feel bottled up. We feel suffocated. This feeling of suffocation should be used in a positive way.

Number one is Introspection. What in us is reacting to what? What is bothering us, what is affecting us?

Secondly, even if you have money, you do not know, you do not have avenues for spending it. This is suffocation. You may have many things to do but you can’t do it because transportation is affected, offices are closed. Communication systems are still working, but we do not know whether there will be a shutdown in communication systems also. I heard in some countries, there has been overwhelming communication and the systems got shut down, just crashed temporarily but that is suffocation. That is also suffocation.

Today fortunately, we can talk. I’m talking and you can listen, we are discussing. We are lucky to have that. But we do not know for how long. 100 years ago or 200 years ago, it was not possible to talk and feel each other so freely. Today we have it. But at the same time, we have all been gadget-oriented since the last 50 years. We have been depending on gadgets or gadgets have been ruling us, which accented our insensitivity, which accented our ability to be humans because we don’t have to meet people. We don’t need eye contacts. We don’t need to feel people’s emotions, how they feel. Instead, we are only focused on opinions and concepts – concepts of people, opinions of people. So,  we eclipsed the truth with all these opinions and concepts; or opinions and concepts eclipsed the real reality – the truth, but we bought it. We bought what the social media is talking; we bought what the mainstream media is talking. We bought or we consumed, what the politicians are speaking, or the religious leaders are speaking. Most of these talks had a profit motive. There is a reason for those talks. That’s not probably benevolent for humanity, in the sense, that if divisions are happening with these conversations, they’re not benevolent for humanity. Selfishness causes divisions. It takes selflessness to cause unification and this is the time for unification.

One virus has actually put a question mark in front of our eyes. What are you? What is life? Every animal on this earth has been asking humans this question all the time, non-verbally because they can’t talk. If any of the animals can talk, the stories they would say would literally shake us. We haven’t thought about that. The torture and the suffering of all the beings, even human beings for that matter, has been a cause for concern. Definitely.

And with this new economic meltdown, people are scrambling or the governments are scrambling to amass whatever they can hold on and help stabilize the economies. I believe that they will think twice before waging wars, otherwise, wars were rampant. There have been too many wars, too many complications. Too many things which were not good for humanity has been happening all the time. We have been quite insensitive about it. We’ve been quite unconcerned about it. We never cared about it.


So, this is indeed the time when you need to think. Introspect. Connect to yourself, feel yourself, ask questions to yourself, as to you versus this world that we use for our experiences. We are using this platform called world for our own experiences. We are using this unconsciously, almost taken it for granted. We never really cared how the earth feels because we are walking on it. It is time. It’s really time to think. It’s time to think beyond caste, country, culture, colour, community and religion. It is time. It is time to reconsider non-violence – Ahimsa – in thoughts, words, and actions. It’s time. That lifestyle of love, compassion, kindness is essential today. This is needed for the future of earth and the future of man on earth, future of human beings on earth because we never cared about forests. We never cared about ecology. We never actually built anything positive from this whole lifestyle. Instead, we have been demanding more and more. We have been screaming for rights, while we never talked about responsibilities.

It is our responsibility to take care of the nature. It is our responsibility to care about the human species. It’s our responsibility to care about all the species because we are supposedly a refined species. How do we know we are refined? If our attitude is that of unconscious insensitivity, we are not refined. Refinement should be visible through kindness, compassion and we should unite the world through love. Love is a very powerful tool. You can never underestimate it. Today, we cannot even hug a person or shake hands with a person. We can’t express humanity in this condition of virus. Look at what we have seen and what we are experiencing, right now. These are all warning bells. These are warning signs, signs of times. These are signs of times.

So, we all should reach out to all whom we can and spread the positivity. Bring the unity, bring humanity to life. Human beings should bring humanity. The right religion for human beings is humanity. You can worship any way you like, based on your gunas. How is your disposition? How is your orientation? How is your inclination? You can worship any God, any religion, doesn’t matter; but humanity first, beyond religions. Religions cannot save you in these kinds of times, humanity can. Humanity should be expressed through no wars, no discord, no division; this is important.

Now again, we are experiencing a few days of isolation. We are experiencing restrictions. We are experiencing so many things which should give us a good amount of realization. It should lead to transformation.

In my life, I have never told anybody that I’m enlightened. I have never told anybody I am their guru or I am the master or I am a great personality or I have any greatness. All of us have greatness. All of us have realizations sitting in us but it needs an environment, a kind of silence, a kind of stability, to awaken it. And this is the time when you’re getting it.

First and foremost, you as a human being versus the world is the first level of realization. How much of dependency we have on materials, people, relations, locations, time, spaces, and activities. Look at the levels of dependency! That’s reflected in the levels of suffocation, when it’s not accessible. This is the first point.

Second point – look within and see what’s getting affected within you, because of non-availability of many of these things.

The third point is – are you affected the same way when you are sleeping, when you are dreaming, etc. So, this is only during the waking state when your identifications are strong.

Human beings have three predominant energy disposition or energy expressions. It’s called Iccha Shakti, Jnana Shakti, and Kriya Shakti. Iccha Shakti is willpower. Jnana Shakti is the power of knowledge and Kriya Shakti is the power of action. If these are balanced, your life is effective. When I say effective life, it is the life where you live as a human being, an epitome of kindness and compassion, unconditional love, selflessness, living for the world. That is what I say effective life. It is not living for oneself – eating, drinking, sleeping, procrastinating, asking more and more from Earth, talking or shouting rights and having no responsibilities. That is not human existence. I do not call that a refined existence.

So, Iccha Shakti is the power of will. Its source is vision. Kriya Shakti is the power of action. Its source is faith, belief. If you do not have faith and belief in your action, it is weak action. Likewise, if you do not have power of will – will power combined with the will for action, the actions are not effective. We have power of knowledge that has to come from truth, the source is truth. So, source is truth for the knowledge, while source is belief, faith for action.

Root yourself in some faith – one faith – one particular thing which you really trust to have faith, whichever, it doesn’t matter. You are comfortable; you should be feeling good with it. Root yourself there. When you root yourself on one particular belief system – belief, faith – that will strengthen your will for action. Whenever we say, “Oh, I’m not feeling like doing it, I have inertia, I can’t do it,” it’s a sign that there is no belief, proper root belief, well rooted belief, that is a sign. So, it is time you rooted yourself on proper, effective belief system. You can have a belief in one man whom you want to trust as a person who’s stable, or a system, or yourself. You should have faith in something. That’s your choice. You can choose. Nobody is higher, nobody is lower. Nobody is equal. Everybody is unique. Please remember, we are master material. We have Iccha Shakti, Jnana Shakti and Kriya Shakti; power of knowledge, power of will and power of action. This is in us. If there is imbalance, we are ineffective in this world. So, truth is the root or the cause or the source for the power of knowledge. Vision is the source for the power of will. You should have a proper vision, higher vision, larger vision and that vision will help you in your journey further because you have clarity. If vision is perfect, clarity is sure. This will happen. And then Kriya Shakti, believe in your vision, trust it and act on it. Just think because your heart is beating, you will make many hearts happy without expectation, without prejudice. You have no enemies. Enmity is an aberration. It is a perversion. We always look at enemies. That’s a perversion. That’s not true. Just because we disagree, are they enemies? If somebody hates you, is that your problem? That’s something sitting in them. We should not be worried about enemies. We should not be worried about obstacles. We should always look at purpose. What is the purpose, the highest good for the world, the goodness factor that you can give into this world? That’s your purpose. That should be the purpose of humankind. That is humanity.

If you have that vision, if you believe in that vision, if you source from the truth of selflessness, truth which is selflessness, compassion, kindness, unconditional love, that’s the reflection of the truth. God, whichever form you are worshiping, doesn’t matter; God is truth. God is omnipresent. God needs nothing from you. God does not punish. We should never fear God. We should love God and express godliness through kindness, compassion, unconditional love, forgiveness; letting go of the past, letting go of bad emotions, letting go of everything negative. Focus on positive. Focus on truth. Act, act right now. Tomorrow, we do not know. All you have is today; this time, this space, this opportunity. We have never seen tomorrow. Nobody has seen tomorrow. Tomorrow will happen, that time you realize it is happening.

So come on, get on, and rejuvenate people.  As Vivekananda said, awake. Arise. Get on with your right action. I love you. I’m with you.

Lots of love.



Transcribed and Edited

By Rekha Murali


Mohanji’s Message on Corona Virus Pandemic – 17th March 2020

Hello there.

As of today, there are about 80,000 people completely recovered from the effect of the virus and 7100 persons died. That’s the reported death and about 80,000 people recovered. So, what we should focus on is that 80,000 people recovered. That means, recovery rates are very good. How many people have been affected as per the records; 180 something, that means about 200,000 people out of 7.5 billion people. Please understand, out of 7.5 billion people, about 200,000 people are reportedly affected. Out of that, about 80,000 people have recovered and about 7000 people have died. They have not died because of this virus, this virus just lifted the immunity away and they had other complications. Those complications started working and that’s how they died. This is what I understand, if you’re reasonably healthy, you can definitely survive even if you are affected. If there are other complications already, that means there is definite ill health, and then recovery could be a problem. That is exactly why prevention is very important. I was watching the television: one more thing that I see is that the amount of emission has reduced considerably in the world. Air is much cleaner and there is much less emission from vehicles. From every aspect, there is less pollution. So pollution levels in the world, especially in places like China, have reduced a lot.  In many countries there is a reduction in emission and also pollution. So, this is one positive sign. I’m just talking about the positive things and how we can look at this whole thing.

Secondly, we are heading towards a recession. This is what I feel; that there is a crash in economy or the meltdown is happening. Already, various countries are now redefining their budgets; they have to because a lot of businesses are on standstill. They have all stopped. Transportation industry, tourism industry, various industries are suffering. They all are affected. That’s a real sign that we have to constantly be flexible with our economy. This is the time to remain flexible.

We have been unconsciously spending – income was happening, spending was happening. We were not really worried about all this. But now with this virus situation, each country has become an island – non-communicative, not reachable and they are all segregated from each other. Each country is trying to take care of their citizens and they are isolating others. So, the whole equation has changed, even though the world has many more borders than 100 years ago; there are many more new countries and we have many more borders than before. But now, all the countries are forced to be isolated from each other. That also means economically, there is no support. There is no purchase, there are no imports and exports, and there is no travel. There is stagnation of economy. So, countries and their political leaders have to redefine their economy and they have to use this money to lift their countries – once this epidemic situation is over -lift their countries back to the state which it was before at least. To recover completely takes a long time, it will take a long time. But at least to bring it back to the old state; this will take time. This is what I feel.

That is exactly why we need to spread the positivity, hope and higher awareness in this world today using your own platform. That’s what I have been saying in the last two days. Everybody who is connected to Mohanji and the Foundation, I would like all of you to reach out to any number of people you can and make a difference in their lives. Bring positivity to them, bring positivity in their lives, bring happiness in their lives, bring hope in their lives, and that way, at least to tell that we are all together, we are here to help you. That’s why I had asked if any of our people are stranded in any country. Please do let us know.  We will do whatever we can to help them. But don’t panic. Help is at hand.

So, I’m just summing up the situation as I understood today. These things are bound to happen. I consider this as a third world war situation, not that a third world war happened. But it is a similar situation. What will happen if there was a third world war? There will be prohibition on flying. There’ll be prohibition in cargo transportation. There’ll be prohibition in movement, traffic, tourism, all those things. Same thing has happened with this virus. And it is definitely a good time to think because we have a lot of time at home. Just switch off the television, switch off mobile phones, switch off everything and start connecting to oneself and redefine oneself. This is very important at this time. This is the right time for doing that. Because there is a forced isolation, you know, forced into seclusion. This is the time to redefine ourselves.

We can correct a lot of things. First of all, we can correct our insensitivity; automatic, spontaneous, unconscious insensitivity towards all the things on the earth. We have taken a lot of things for granted. We took food for granted; now that’s why we see the panic buying. Even if you buy more, can you store more? Can you eat more? You can’t. So, it is important that just like the birds or animals – look at them – they will tell you how to handle food. They will only consume what they can and they leave behind whatever they can’t. And they will know that there will be food; if you have a mouth, there’ll be food. So, it’s important; nature tells you what to do. If you look into the nature, nature has all the answers.  Today, I would like to say that you should connect to the nature.

If you disconnect, continue to disconnect, we will all be in an unconscious mode, running after profits, selling our time for money. This is what we have been doing. Now, it is time where you can’t sell your time for money because there is no money to sell for. So, this is one thing happening today and we have been forced to isolate from each other.

So, we know our relationships with people, dependencies, everything has to be redefined today. Eventually, we will all understand that we are born alone, we will die alone. And we will always have this understanding. We are owned by nothing, and nothing we can own. These are the things which we should really understand. And as I said yesterday, the fear of death is one of the most powerful emotions that everybody has including animals, birds, everybody, but you look at what we have done to this animal kingdom. We literally wiped out various species insensitively, unconsciously, without any remorse, without any guilt, or any kind of feeling. Now, it is time we think, they also wanted to live. They had fear of death just like us. We are facing it now, with this virus, a lot of people have real mortal fears about their dying, about this virus affecting them. We are experiencing that today.

So, this is something which we have to now think and we need to make people aware that – look here – the same fears that we entertain today, because this is the nature given chance for experiencing the fear of death, maybe all the beings that we have killed over these years have experienced. They had tremendous fears for dying. Tremendous fears when we were killing them, murdering them, for the sake of meat, for the sake of pleasure, for the sake of our skin, we were putting them in laboratories and inflicting pain, inflicting torture, torture through mutilation, all those things they might have felt, right? All those beings in the laboratories, in the circuses, in the zoos, in the abattoirs, in dairy industry, farms, in hatcheries; they would have experienced or they’re probably experiencing the same kind of fears, because fear of death is connected to our basic instinct, instinct of survival. We all have the basic instinct which is the instinct for survival. Fear of death is connected to it. And that way, death is an enemy. But death is an inevitability, you cannot change death. You cannot avoid death. You have to die one day. If you are born, you will die. So, this awareness is very, very important at this stage.

We own nothing on Earth, we can own nothing. We can’t say that we have an eternal state or eternity in us. We have eternity, if you’re considering the soul factor. But we don’t consider that usually, we look at this incarnation and we are trying to preserve this body, preserve this life. That is where the fear of death happens. But it is time to redefine. Every time when such crisis happens, there is a point of redefining. But this generation, I would say is very lucky. Because in an unpolluted atmosphere, when you are at home, when you are in forced isolation, when you are in a meditative state where you have nothing much to do and when things are not in abundance anymore because the production is affected, everything is affected, you are forced to consume what is necessary, not consume emotionally.

Also, when you have a lot of time to think and do, use your time well. First, use that time to connect to yourself and have certain understandings that you are walking this earth. Earth doesn’t belong to you, you belong to the earth and the earth will consume you sooner or later. So, in this context, you position yourself well: with kindness, with compassion, with gratitude, immense gratitude, with awareness and with selflessness, and consume what you want to consume, share what you have in abundance, and make sure that all the people around you are better, feeling better, have more hope, and more balance and stability because of you.

I wish you great happiness and great health. I’m always with you.

I love you.



Mohanji’s Message on Corona Virus Pandemic – 11th March 2020


It is a time to think. A virus has brought the entire mankind to its knees. A virus has really dictated the terms of our existence. Even with all our technological growth, with all our power, a high level of awareness, and scientific development, we still cannot fight a virus. There are so many factors that make us aware of how helpless we are.

This is a clear sign of our helplessness. Many people ask me about certain mantras which will help during this time. Mantras definitely help. Mantras are vibrations or frequencies. If you increase your frequency, you become more immune. And one of the mantras which come to my mind easily is the Gayatri Mantra which everybody is familiar with. If you keep chanting this, it will help you and your community a lot. This has been tested and proved a long time ago. Likewise, the Maha Mrityunjaya Mantra also helps. Therefore, Mantras certainly help.


Gayatri mantra

Om Bhuur-Bhuvah Svah


Bhargo Devasya Dhiimahi

Dhiyo Yo Nah Prachodayaat


Maha Mrityanjaya Mantra

Om tryambakam yajaamahe


Urvaarukam iva bandhanaat

Mrtyor mukshii ya maamritaat


Chanting helps, detachment helps. Even the society has to redefine its existence today. We have lived a reasonably insensitive, unconsciously insensitive existence all these years. We did not care about anything around us. We did not care about ecology; we did not really take care of the environment that we live in. We have always complained and talked so much about rights rather than responsibilities. So this is a time, that this virus has brought us to a certain awareness, a certain question in our life.

What exactly are we doing? What are we up to? Is this what we are? It is very important that we define humanity; define mankind; define our existence in a much more detailed way in this context at this time. One of the primary things which we can discuss here is how committed have we been to the ecology or the environment around us? We have been blindly following our tastes, our desires, our imaginations, and our own pleasures. We never thought about how it will affect the world outside.


We do hunting; kill animals who wanted to live. We kill various beings for the pleasure of our time, the pleasure of our skin. We have manipulated and mutilated so many beings. Now it is payback time. This is a sign of payback where nature is telling us who is in charge. Because this virus is bothering us, it is bothering our lives, our daily activities, even the economy. It is affecting us on every level. But, if you look at the whole world from a different angle, human beings are the worst viruses that this world has ever seen, because we have affected every aspect of the world – the earth, the water, and the sky. We have contaminated every space. We have done so much damage to this world.

This is the right time to think about it. We brought oil from under the earth while nature has given us three energy sources – sunlight, water, and air. Pure energy sources. Instead, we chose to extract oil from inside the earth, which was supposed to be lubricating and balancing the earth. Today, we see much more natural calamities; many more earthquakes, we see so many other things connected to the Earth’s instability. When the Earth is unstable, we are unstable. This is one. Two, because of all this insensitive lifestyle, the Earth has warmed up – ‘Global Warming.’ That has also affected us and is affecting us every moment. It is melting the ice. It’s taking the drinking water, the pure water sources away. We can see that the water levels are rising and it will wipe away some islands in this world. That is again the destruction of life. We saw tsunamis affecting and killing many people. Therefore, overall nature is retaliating. Nature is fighting back because of our insensitivity.

We have seen forest fires. Most of them are supposedly manmade fires. We lit up the forests and billions of animals died; acres of land were devastated. So much of destruction has happened in the last hundred years. Meanwhile, technology grew. We are in the age of the internet. We have seen so many different dimensions of technology, technological expertise, and technological development. It is all very commendable. It is remarkable. The world has come together. However, have we grown in awareness? Have we really used this awareness to expand our kindness and compassion in this world? Absolutely not!


We are still fighting for the sake of greed. We live for profits; do business for profits. We do not care whether there is an inconvenience to the environment because of our business. We are so insensitive. In the name of money, in the name of profits, we compromise many things. When we compromise humanity, we lose mankind. Wherever we have touched, we have behaved like viruses. We talk too much about religion but we do not talk about humanity. Actually speaking, humanity is the best or the most important religion. We are one species. We should be talking about us as a species; we should be talking about us in terms of what can we do for this Earth; what can we do for this world? Not what we can take from this world.

We have always spoken about rights, but it is time we speak about responsibilities. This is a time to think about how many people will die because of this virus. As we know now, so many countries are affected. Travel bans are happening; Communication channels are affected; Traveling between countries are not smooth anymore; Business transportation is affected. Therefore, we can see that it is affecting every level of existence. Hospitals are on overdrive. Medicines are not suitable, or not all the medicines are suitable. I still believe that only natural medicines will be suitable for these kinds of viruses. But, do we have the nature to get those medicines? This is another question. Because we have made the earth so barren that the earth cannot give us anything more. We have used the earth in a very insensitive way.

We have reached a stage where we do not even talk to people. We look at people as profit centres, as a profit potential or the source for profit. We do not see people, we do not see animals, we do not see birds, we see nobody and we see nothing. We have become islands. Then suddenly we realize a virus has brought us to our knees, brought the whole world to its knees. It has devastated us. It is like a third world war now. Not between countries, but between nature and this one species – human species. This is not the end. Do not think that this ends here. Once this virus ends, people will go back to their old ways. Then again, we will create; the collective consciousness will create such incidents. We are looking at conquering the Earth. We cannot conquer the Earth; the Earth conquers us.

No human being has ever conquered the Earth; it was only an illusion. People have said, “With lots of wealth and property, we buy assets and we save a lot of things.” Until when? Until our death, up to our graveyard. That is it. We cannot take anything from here. The only things we can have while we exist on Earth are the experiences that we get. All the experiences through our five senses – eyes, ears, nose, mouth, and skin, and through the processors. Emotions are processed in the mind, information is processed with our intellect, and the materials which support our existence are processed through the ego. That is all we have. Therefore, we have five senses and three processors. Summing up, everything put together – experiences. Some we call good experiences, some we call bad experiences. That is all we have. That is life. So in this life, how much are we harming the world, harming people and harming nature? We have violated everything. We have manipulated everything. Then we cry now. What do we do now?

It is time to redefine ourselves. It is time to redefine humanity, to redefine human existence on Earth. It is time. We cannot be islands anymore. We cannot be isolated anymore. We have to behave responsibly. As we read in the newspapers, the place where it all started in China was a wild animal market. Wild Animals should be in the wild, what were they doing in the market? Also, how much of the killings are still happening? Trophy hunting is happening. Countries like Africa are offering their wild animals for hunting, for money. They do not care. People do not care. Why do we kill something for our satisfaction? Isn’t that an aberration? It is an abnormality to kill some being, to take something of a being, who wants to live. It’s abnormal for human beings to think like this.


We must redefine our existence; we must go plant-based; we must accept the environment. We should not use any materials (like fertilizers) that will harm or pollute the Earth or its beings. We should completely discard them. We should make our life cleaner, easier, and better. We should look at every species as a part of this Earth, as a part of us, as a part of co-existence. All species have the same rights on Earth, the same value on Earth. We cannot say we are superior and be isolated from instinct, because we have intelligence and imagination. We are not superior. When do we know we are superior? – When we add value to the environment around us, when we do not pollute the Earth, when we do not manipulate or destroy Earth or destroy life. When we do not do any of that, that time, we can say we are a refined species.

Recently, these forest fires of the last one year have destroyed billions of beings. A lot of flora and fauna were devastated. If it is man-made, there’s no mercy, no pardon. Because we created our own graveyard, we dug our own grave, and then we cannot complain. Now, when nature tells who is in charge, all we can do is sit down, watch and pray. But pray to whom? We have to pray to ourselves, to be reasonable, to be sensitive, to be loving, to be kind, to be compassionate, to be human beings. Humanity is the highest thing, which we can express during human existence. That is all we have to do.

So, this virus is definitely a warning bell for us, to our species as a whole. Discard all divisions that we have entertained; caste, country, culture, and colour. The virus never cared about them. The virus had no boundaries. The virus did not check which border, it affected everybody. It is really the time to think and it is really the time to act. If we do not do that, if you do not become one global family, one species – human species – beyond caste, country, culture, and religion, if we do not take care of each other, as lovingly as we take care of our children, we do not have a future. This is important to know.

I wish you good health, I wish you stability and I wish you great awareness. Please spread this message to the world. Tell people that it is time we unite and we come together. Once again, I wish you all great health.


Transcribed by Rakshitha Ananth
Proofread by Shyama Jeyaseelan

Watch Mohanji’s message on Corona virus given on 17 March here.

Silence Speaks – part 2

Satsang with Mohanji in Begrade, Serbia
13th October 2019

Watch the full satsang here.



Q: What is your recommendation about the emptiness one feels after a loss. Should one grieve or ignore, or how to deal with it?

M: I’ll tell you my experience. When I lost my daughter in a road accident, it was very serious pain. I thought it was the end; I was very close to her. But then, when people started coming to the house and seeing me, they were expecting me to be sad for a long period of time. I then realized that this was my personal sorrow and that in fact, none of these people had anything to do with it. Why should I be a victim of someone’s sympathy? It paralyzes you. I refused the sympathy, because it was a personal sorrow, it was a completely personal issue. Also I refused to indulge in self-pity. Both of them paralyze you. You are thinking and nurturing sorrows because you love to be in that state.

Instead what I did was, I moved into serving the world in her name, in my daughter’s name. It has been sixteen years since then now. In many countries, ACT Foundation and Ammucare are functioning. See, there is a T-shirt here, ACT Foundation. How many lives have we touched? It’s not my merit, it’s not my power. It’s the intention. The power of intention made it. I decided that I will not remain a victim and receive sympathy or nurture self- pity. Instead,  I moved into the world; there was opposition, there were many obstacles. People tried various things to pull me down, and when I started this in 2003, some people, even authorities asked, “Do you have a lot of money?” I said, ”No“.  “Do you have somebody with a lot of money with you?” I said “No“. “Then this will not run even for one year”, they said. Now, sixteen years later, I can definitely say, “It ran! It did touch many lives. It’s still touching many lives.” How much it has grown and who received benefit from it, I don’t know, I never counted it. Recently somebody asked me, “What is the success behind ACT Foundation?” I said, “I never owned it. I delivered it to the world. The world is running it. People of the world are running it“.

In 2003, when they asked me the question, “What is your investment?” I said, “Myself“. I don’t have anything else to invest. I have only myself to invest, and I invested myself. Until today, I have never called up anybody asking for money. I never told anyone, “You must do something in ACT Foundation.” Never! Money has come. Activities have happened. Life has happened this way. Today, my daughter still lives, in many countries, through many people.


You can convert every loss into something powerful and positive. This is up to you. This is your disposition. If you sit down and cry, drink alcohol, pity yourself, nobody gains anything out of it; in fact life is lost. One life is already lost, and your life will be also lost. This is my answer.

I would say never waste your life, because you are unique in this world. There is none like you. You are a unique creation. You are neither high nor low or equal, you are unique, and there is nobody like you. You must use your uniqueness in the right way, as best as possible and make a difference in the world. Why not? Why do we have to just live and die? Keep shining bright!

When I wake up in the morning each day,  I say a prayer, “Thank you for using me.“  I do not take ownership. I really don’t have any extra powers as compared to any of you. But I refuse to lie down and die. It is not always easy, because sometimes people are very cruel toward us. Even if you are doing good things, they will come and say something very dirty and bad. They want you to slow down. You must get up and walk again.  Because it is your life! Nobody else is responsible. It is our life. We have to walk. Keep walking. And don’t expect inspiration from those outside. You should have inspiration from within.

We have to be self-inspired, there is no choice. Don’t expect anything from outside, because many times when you expect that, you get the opposite. They try to pull you down. They try to tell you that you are not good; they try to tell the world that you are not good. They do all these things. This is part of life. You watch anyone who has done anything in this world; people have accused them, criticized,  and even crucified them. This is the world. You have to live in this world. You have to live as yourself in this world.

What can you depend on? The purity of intention within you. Your intention should be always pure. You should always mean good for others. Whatever others do to you, don’t worry about that. Be good to  people. Do your best. I always make sure that if somebody comes to me I do my best; whether they are eligible, not eligible, good, bad, ugly, I don’t look at. We don’t have time for that. We don’t have time to waste. Each breath that we take on earth is valuable. This platform is valuable; that is, the earth is valuable. We don’t know how long we will live here. So, what we can do? Do your best; forget about applauses, hatred or criticism. Let everything be. You do your best. Don’t expect that everybody will appreciate. That is a big problem. If you expect people to appreciate and if they don’t appreciate, you will stop doing things. That is not good.


Sometimes, when I almost decided it is a thankless world, I should not do anything, then she (referring to Devi) was saying, “Keep moving, move! “ So I said, ok. When some people criticize for what we do, I tell them, “Can you do something better than this, I will support you?” They vanish. I realized that many people who talk, do nothing. They just talk, they don’t have any initiative for doing anything; even taking this piece of paper from one place to another, they won’t do. But they criticize those who do. So I say,” You do it better than me, no problem, I will support you.” I would like to see positive activities happening in the world; it is not important who does it, let it happen. But it doesn’t happen. So, what should you do? Keep walking. Don’t slow down. Don’t stop.

One more thing you can be sure about. Those who connect to you with their mind will not stay long. They change their mind. Those who connect to you from their heart will never leave. You can trust them. These are the people who will walk with you, whatever happens, they will never leave you. These, you can trust. Keep walking. They will walk with you. Night or day, winter or sunshine, it doesn’t matter, they will walk with you.

That is why Buddha created  his  entire empire with five people. So many people came to see him. Five people stayed. So many people came to listen to Jesus, twelve people stayed. It is the same with everybody. All those who do something in the world, do not have many to support them. Many will come to see, but not to support; a few people will support, and they really will. That is enough to build the world. This is the long story, but  it is important to understand, because I do not accept that you are weak, that something is impossible. These are things that I don’t understand. I always say, “There will be a way.“ Everything has a method. If you have the key, there is a lock; if you do not put the key in the right place you cannot open the lock. So, there is a right place, a right method to do things, find that thing. It will happen. I do not agree that something is impossible in life. If you ever feel weak, remember me, I will be with you. If nobody is with you, I will be with you. This is guaranteed.


Q: Do you enjoy being worshiped and feeling that you are special or above others?

M: I think she (referring to Devi) can truly reply to this question.  

(Laughter in the audience)

Please understand one thing. There is nothing special in me. But if somebody feels that they get satisfaction by praying to me, worshipping  me, loving me or hating me, I accept it as it is, because at the end of the day, it is about their satisfaction. I will never ask anyone to worship me, because it is of no interest to me. If somebody says,” I have to worship you,” I say, “Ok, do it,“ because it is for them.

Understand that different types of people meet me each day. Each person has his or her own favorite expression or style; who am I to deny it? But if I demand it, it is a different story. I never demand it. I never ask for it. I do not look at myself as special, to be really honest. I think that everybody is myself. Why do you worship another person? Worship yourself. This is what you should do. But somebody says, “You are amazing, I want to worship you, I become happy.” Then I say, “Please, go ahead“. Some people write poetry about me, they feel happy. Some people hate me, they get happy. I agree to everything,  so that they are satisfied in their life in their own way. Do you understand?

It is not just me, anyone who is aligned or stabilized, even you, will become like a powerful magnet, whether you like it or not. And that is because of only one reason,  you are aligned; your mind, intellect, body, ego, spirit, everything is together. When you look, everything looks, then every activity becomes powerful; you become attractive. It is not that you are doing something, you become like that. A magnet does not have to decide to become a magnet; it is a magnet. It attracts people; each person responds in different ways; as they are. We don’t interfere in this. People wrote the Aarati, I didn’t say anything. Some people wrote thousand names for me; everything is allowed. I have never depended on any of these things. If I depend on them, then I become addicted to somebody. Then if somebody does not do it, I would become sad. I am happy and I don’t want to compromise on my happiness.


I am sure that some of you definitely experienced in this lifetime, when you become totally aligned, you realize one thing: whatever you learned from the outside world, has no value. Secondly, the inside world is empty. When you have no outside world, and inside world, what are you? You are everything. You are all over.  In that kind of a situation, the only thing you feel all the time is that you know nothing. You are totally empty and free. You are  not bound by the emotions, or the devotion, or anybody.

Now, when you are like that, how will people respond to you, we don’t know and we cannot say, nor we can deny. People respond according to what they are. Some people feel a lot of love, some people love devotion, some people feel various things. Anyway, nothing will bind you. You are already free. You have chosen freedom. You are not dependent on someone’s emotion for your life. The remote control of your happiness is definitely not in the hands of someone else, it is in your hands. So you don’t change the channel often. If it is in someone else’s hand, they keep changing the channel; sometimes they are angry, upset, happy or sad; these will not affect you. But at a certain point in time, nothing affects you. The last point is you look at everybody as yourself; all are your relatives, all are your soulmates, there is no difference. Then, whether they worship or deny, hate or do whatever, how does it matter? When you love somebody, and they betray you, sometimes you feel the pain. Then you feel, “Ok, let them have their enjoyment at your cost. No problem.”

I will definitely recommend worshiping one person, in one lifetime, who is that? J YOU. Because you are a wonderful creation, understand that. Because you are an amazing creation, why not worship yourself? This includes self-acceptance, and love. So, instead of worshiping something outside of you, you must worship yourself and appreciate this creation called You in this lifetime, otherwise you will lose a lifetime. If you don’t worship me, I lose nothing. But if you don’t worship yourself, you will lose one lifetime.

Don’t feel that God is looking for your worship. God is busy. The whole Universe belongs to Him. Look at ourselves from the moon? We are like tiny ants here. We pray to God and God becomes happy? Understand the God in you and behave like God through love. Unconditional love. That makes you one with God. What you need to know is that you are the Supreme Consciousness in small bodies; from outer space we appear like tiny ants, ants walking around with big ego.


Q: How important it is to have living spiritual master?

M: Dangerous! How does it feel to live with a mad man? (Laughter)

It depends on you. If you are ready to break your ego into pieces, then there is nothing better than that. If you want to hold on your ego, but if you want to break the master to pieces… (laughter) Both ways it is a good idea. (Laughter) If Master breaks your ego into pieces, then you become free. If you break the Master into pieces, the world becomes free. (Laughter)

Is that clear? Good idea or bad idea? (Laughter)

It is very unpredictable to be with a living Master because his law is the law of dharma, not the social law.  He lives as per what has to be done, not what he loves to do. What you have to do is his  priority, not what you love to do. But, those who operate from the mind, their priority is what they love to do, not what they have to do. This is the main difference.

When you live with a Master, who only does what he has to do, because he can see through the destiny path, the karmic configuration, he will only do what he has to do, which might be shocking for you, because you have already boundaries, concepts, ideas, understandings and you decided that this is the way to go. He breaks the rules. It really tilts you. Sometimes, he shakes you. Sometimes you become scared. It is not as easy as you think; but if you are man enough to handle it and to allow your ego to be torn into pieces, then nothing better than that.

So now you know why she lives in Slovenia and I live in India. (Laughter) When you cannot tolerate each other this is the way to be together.

The conflict is that when you operate from your mind, you are security oriented; when your mind dissolves, you have no problem with security. If you are operating from your mind, insecurity is part of it and Master is secure. When Master is secure, he is very flexible; time, activities, everything is flexible. But, when you operate from your mind, you need patterns, you need structure. It is  very difficult. It is a big clash. When you are with a living Master, there always will be this clash; you are approaching the master from the mind level, with insecurity and the Master is operating  with the  complete security and full flexibility; it doesn’t work well. So people run away. They get fascinated by the Master, how he looks, how he walks,  how he smells, (laughter) they try to come  but then run away, saying, “Oh no! This is not what I want!” They also say, “He is crazy!”


Q: At the beginning of each spiritual practice, I keep progressing. But at the certain level there seems to be veil or curtain that falls and disables me from growing further, no matter what I do or how much more I try. So is this to help me develop patience or is it a sign that this path is closed for me or that something else should be found?

M: The activity which gives you experience for a period of time, after a while the same activity cannot give you the same experience. This is natural. That is called the stagnation stage. That doesn’t mean that what you are doing is wrong. But the same activity cannot give you the same experience. It is as simple as that.

If you continue doing the same practice during the stage of stagnation, then you will reach the stage of vacuum; confusions such as are you are doing the right thing or wrong thing, Guru is good, Guru is bad, will happen. If you still do the same practice continuously, then you reach the stage of stable bliss, where you are always peaceful. These are hurdles that you have to cross to reach the stage of stable bliss. It is a test of your consistency. Be consistent and definitely you will reach your destination. The tortoise kept walking, it reached before the hare. (In the fable of the tortoise and the hare where they had a race to see who was faster.)

Q: I lost my child four times. What is the reason why I cannot maintain my pregnancy? What is the way to calm myself down and help my body accept the fetus and bring the child to this world?

M: That is an individual question, individualistic answer is needed. I would suggest you to talk to any of these Mai-Tri healers here. They will tell you.

Q: How do I know that I am on the right path and my life’s purpose?

M: Please understand, life purpose is not separated from your life. What you are experiencing each moment is your life’s purpose. It is  continuous, right from birth till death. Life purpose is what we are experiencing each moment. Whatever you experience through the waking state, the dream state and your deep sleep state is your purpose of life. It is a mixture of all the things you have experienced so far in life.

How do you know you are on the right path? You will feel good. This is an internal thing. The right path, the right practice, the right Guru, the right destination, you will feel these because you have that capacity already. You will feel it is natural for you. Whatever is natural, whatever is not artificial is the right thing. So, life’s purpose is whatever you are experiencing at each point.


Higher purpose of life is to be aware of the consciousness that is driving or moving your life. Being aware of it, that this consciousness is active when you are awake, when you are dreaming, and when you are in a deep sleep;  being aware of that consciousness, which is behind all these activities and your understanding, is the higher purpose of life. As a human being you can understand that. No other species can do that. As human beings, you already have that faculty in you which will help you to be aware that whatever is happening is energized by something else.

The highest purpose of life is to feel God within yourself, and in everything around you, you only see God. This means the energy, the vibrations and the essence, everywhere. That is the higher purpose.

Is that clear?

Q: If I can’t see any changes within myself or outside of myself, does it mean that I am progressing or not? And in certain situations, I specially wish for Mohanji to lead me. Is it enough to just to have that intention and wish?

M: Mohanji to leave you or to lead you? Laugh J

Well, when you connect with me, I am connected to you. There is no need for any formality, or any particular method of connection. When you think about me, you are connected to me. When your mind is with me, you are connected to me. Automatically there is an energy exchange going on. It is not only me, when you think about anybody, there is an energy exchange happening. Sometimes you become conscious about it, you become aware of it, sometimes you are not aware of it, because sometimes it is based on sensitivity at that time or our moods or our emotions. So, when you are thinking about me, you are connected to me.


What are you connected to? The Consciousness which is represented by this body. Don’t think that I keep ‘PABX’ to check the connection of everybody. I don’t have to do that, because the consciousness is available, and that way you are connected. There is no need to specifically lead you in any particular method. Because, as I told in the beginning: The journey is you, the traveler is you, the destination is also you. In this bargain, my job is to ensure that you are travelling alright. That is why I said, if nobody is with you, I am with you. I never change my mind because I have no mind to change! There is no need for any ceremony; there is no need for any kind of initiation. When you think about me, you are connected to me and you will feel that difference. You will feel that energy. Just connect. Just stay stable. There is no particular time frame or a method; there is no duration. We are eternally connected. Just like the electricity on the wall. It is there. If you switch it on, you will get light. If you switch it off, there is no light. It is as simple as that. Electricity continues to connect. It is always there. This is a continuous flow of energy, and that has united all of us. That is why I said at the beginning that we are all soulmates, otherwise why did we meet in this life? There is reason for the meeting, right? And there is a reason for connecting. And not all the flowers will become fruit. There are a lot of flowers on the tree; some of the flowers fall off. But some flowers will stay and become fruit. Even the tree does not know which flower will become fruit. As long as you keep a safe distance you will remain warm. If you come too close, it might be burning hot.

I tell these people who are with me “Do not waste my life with me.” Do something better, find a boyfriend, get married, have children and live your life. Don’t waste your time with me, because it is too hot, in the neighborhood. J

Q: Is celibacy required for someone’s spiritual awakening?

M: Can you handle it? The celibacy? It depends on whether you can handle it. Any kind of suppression, is not conducive for awakening. Anything you suppress is only a postponement. Whatever you suppress, you postpone it for another time. Whatever you have, all the pluses and the minuses, all the strengths and weaknesses, you have to experience, complete, and then evolve. That is the right way. After a while, you will have no thought of that kind. Otherwise, if you suppress something, your main thought will be those things that you have suppressed. It is not only with celibacy, anything you have suppressed in life, they keep reminding you that you have suppressed them. That will become a botheration. And it takes time to come out of that botheration.


Q: How to overcome unconscious mechanisms like ego and egoism?

M: Ego is the skeleton of your personality. It is part of you. It is kept so that you can be aware of your existence, or experience existence from the level of  personality, that is,  you as a personality. It has relevance. But when we become egoistic, that is ignorance. When we are expecting respect, expecting  many things from the society, from other people, it is usually connected to not understanding. If you are very stable and you expect nothing, you are fine the way you are. Instead, if you want much from people, you want everybody to respect you or worship you, like you asked previously, these are weakness. These are wrong dimensions of ego. If you expect nothing, you are peaceful and settled nothing can affect you; you are stable. If our egoistic existence is the problem, how do you come around it or overcome it? By being aware of it. Just be aware that these things are happening and  watch them. Don’t do anything. Don’t try to fight with it. Watch it. It will slowly dissolve.

If you sincerely want to dissolve your ego, help the helpless people or beings. When I was practicing on my own, I used to also practice insignificance, which means I am not important. Even now I practice it. I am not important; everybody else is important. That is the way I operate in this world. When you feel, ”Oh, I am amazing, great etc.”, I immediately remember, “ These are provided by them for a purpose, by the Masters or God, body is provided, awareness is provided, space and facilities are provided, listeners are provided, I have done nothing.” If you keep practicing insignificance and if you believe you are not all that important, there is no way ego can bother you.


Q: Can we transcend duality in this reality?

M: Absolutely. One word, awareness.

First, always remember – all that is happening is temporary; everything that is happening, it is momentary, temporary. Everything will move. Everything will pass. But you remain as a witness to this whole show. You are witnessing this only when you are awake. When you are sleeping, you cannot witness. That is first level.

Second point – always ask: Who is speaking through me? Who is seeing through me? Who is hearing through me? What is this thing which is in me, which is experiencing all these things? Keep asking these questions.

Third point – when you are responding, or when you are in this world, when you are moving around, you are responding to various situations, various people, various emotions, who is involved in all this? And how do you feel about it? Different emotions, different people, different situations,… something is happening within you; sometimes happiness, sometimes sorrow, sometimes good, sometimes bad. Who is experiencing all these, what is happening inside?


Then, fourth, the all-important question: Who am I?

Until you get the realization that “I am the Supreme Consciousness, I am the Consciousness, I am everywhere”, keep walking. And who is your Guru? LIFE. Life is your Guru. Every day brings you some lessons through experiences. Every day, every moment, you understand something whether you like it or not.

Nobody in this life can give you better lessons than life itself. So, you are important, your life is important, the lessons from life are important; this is why you are born. This is the purpose of your life. Whether we like somebody, dislike somebody, whether we like something, dislike something, it doesn’t matter; but you should like yourself because you cannot be changed. Don’t fall for hallucinations like, “I am something else, I am somebody else, and I am probably enlightened! “ These are concepts. Don’t worry about them. When you are enlightened, others will know. How will others know? You will not be affected by whatever it is happening outside, you will be peaceful. You will wake up in the morning and ask the question, “What else can I do for this world?” We will not be bound by the overwhelming feeling of, “Me and Mine“. We will be peaceful.

Now, if somebody does not understand you that is their problem, not your problem. Not everybody has to understand you and not everybody has to love you. Those who really love you will not expect anything from you. If someone expects something from you and loves you, they will not stay also.

Life is so simple. Don’t complicate. Philosophy is simple, right? What are we talking about then? J

Go home and have some food. Thank you!

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Transcribed by Nada Rakovic
Proofread by Vidya Rajagopalan



Silence Speaks – part 1

Satsang with Mohanji in Begrade, Serbia
13th October 2019

Watch the full satsang here.



Q: I had a dream about you. You gave me lots of money. Is it ok, what does it mean?

M:  Isn’t it a good idea to have a dream and you get a lots of money? Dream state is a very powerful state; it is the same as waking state. Do you know what the difference between waking state and dream state is? When you are awake, you are sourcing from the world outside, when you are dreaming, you are sourcing from the world inside. But both have one thing in common –  experience. It is called experience and experience has an element of satisfaction. Every experience has an element of satisfaction. When you get something from the world outside, you have satisfaction. But sometimes, it is  temporary.  We have satisfaction from dreams also, because while dreaming it’s real for you. Every desire craves for fulfillment. Every desire’s natural culmination is fulfillment. So, if there was a desire to receive large amounts of wealth, it probably gets translated through dreams and you have satisfaction in that mode. Dream state is a very important state, where you are actually releasing some of your desires, just like waking state.

Q: What is the best way of serving God in a daily life?

M: When you start seeing the God element in yourself; if you just accept yourself totally, you are serving God. There is one thing that you can never avoid in your lifetime and that is you. When you truly and completely start accepting yourself, your own existence, you are accepting God. When you start accepting yourself completely, you become very  powerful. There are no enmities, there are no differences, and you only see your own vibration in the whole world. And that will give you Oneness. Oneness is the nature of God.


One boy asked his father, “You keep talking about God to me, but I don’t understand God. What is God? “

The father explained,  “For you to experience God, you have to experience yourself.“

“Why does God need us to be God?”

Father replied, “Bring me some fire, I will show you.“

He brought a  lamp that had already been lit, with fire.

So the father said, “I told you to bring fire, why you have brought a lamp? It is a flame.“

Then he brought a burning charcoal.

The father  said, “I told you to bring fire, why have you brought a charcoal?”

The son replied, “ I cannot bring a fire without a medium.“

To this the father countered, “God cannot manifest itself without a medium.“


If you understand that, you will respect yourself. You will understand yourself. You will accept yourself. That is the only acceptance you need in life, and everything becomes love, because you love yourself. When you look through the eyes of your mind, what you see is differences. If you look through the eyes of your heart, you will see Oneness. We are all related. We are all relatives. Because, what sits in all of us is one thing. The shells might be different; the forms are different; personalities are different. Because that is the nature of expression of Creation. But inside all of us is one thing. When that thing leaves us, we call it a dead body. So what is alive in us, in waking state, dream state, and deep sleep state is the God particle; the particle called God. That is the value we have. When it leaves, we bury the body, we have no value for that body. As long as it sits, we have value; the moment it leaves, value is gone.

Now, you tell me how do you serve God? Love yourself, and love everybody as yourself. Because all are you, everything is you.

Q: How to defend ourselves from negative people?

M: I think both positive and negative sits inside us. We have both in us. When we nurture more and more love inside, and we start expressing that love in the world outside, we become more immune from the negative things of life, negative energies. There is nothing that is  only positive or only negative.

There is an old saying,   “The devil  uses the key of doubt. “   Doubt is the key that the devil uses to enter the mind. Once it enters, it uses the mind as its vehicle.

Doubt becomes the key for negativity to enter the mind. Once it enters the mind, you don’t know how to overcome it. One doubt will become two, three, and four  and very soon, doubts will rule your mind.  Say, you are progressing very well in positive vibrations and evolving higher into higher realms of awareness, someone   could simply plant a single doubt in your mind saying , “Are you sure?“ and that is it!  Everything  goes down. It’s as if you made extremely good food, spent hours  to make it and somebody put one drop of poison; nobody can eat that.


This is how the society works. They put doubts in your mind, and you are busy handling this doubt. By then you are already slipping down. Doubt is usually from those that you cannot avoid. This is also not only in spirituality; it is also in other relationships. People  put doubts about somebody, and you start behaving differently to the other person. Have you experienced it? How many times have you liked or disliked somebody based on someone’s words? Do you understand  what I am saying? We have to use our experience as our guide. Our own experience is our truth.

So, what is the other side? Faith. Faith in what? Faith in yourself. Trust in your own experience. If you have these two, nobody can touch you. No negativity can enter you. Guaranteed. Faith in yourself, trust in your own experiences, these are your protective sheaths.  Have you seen? Those who have strong faith in themselves, none  can defeat them. When a king or a ruler has full conviction and faith in him, and is leading an army, it is very difficult to destroy them even if the army is the half size of the opponent’s. If you stop trusting your own experience and believe in somebody else’s words, then nobody can protect you.

You must also remember,  you are born powerful. All of you. Who makes you weak? Your own mind. You don’t need any protection from anybody because you are born powerful. You have your own immunity, your own protection around you.  But  your mind is sometimes telling you that you are weak, and if you believe it,  you are weak. Otherwise, you are not weak.

Sometimes people come and tell me, “Mohanji, we cannot do that. It’s not possible. It is impossible.” I listen to it, because I respect their opinion, but I will still do it if I can. Even if I fail, I will try. Because if you did not even try, you do not know whether there is success or failure at the other end. So try, and have faith in yourself. If you fail, it is a good lesson. If you succeed, it is amazing, you proved the point. I would say, keep walking, trust yourself. Have faith in yourself. Trust in your experiences. You will eventually know that you are very  strong.

Did I answer that question about negative beings? Negative beings or negative energies can come to you only if you permit them. Only if the windows are open, the mosquitoes enter. How do you prevent mosquitoes from entering? Fix a net. What is your net? Your own experience. Trust it. Don’t allow opinions to enter through.  Let your experience lead you, guide you.


Q: How to overcome anger and aggression, when they happen within us? Is homosexuality something that can be overcome and is it morally sound to have children while in homosexual relationship?

M: What does anger have  to do with homosexuality? If you did not like your girlfriend and became very angry,  you became a homosexual? (laughter)J

Many of the emotions such as anger and hatred have their root cause  in expectation. If you go deeper to find the root of anger, you will see an expectation that was not fulfilled. That leads to a situation of anger. Usually, an expectation unfulfilled becomes a disappointment. A disappointment then leads to anger and various other forms.

Understand one thing very clearly. All the human beings are driven by inclinations. We can see it even in children. They have certain inclinations, we all have them and they are unique. Inclinations are the driving force. If a person is inclined towards certain things of life, he will chase them. That gives you likes and dislikes. They are the root cause of most of the flavors of life; how we live, what we like, what we dislike, who we like to be with, who we don’t like to be with; all these things are caused or driven by inclinations. You may call  them tendencies.


You can see these inclinations very distinctly in children; very clear inclinations. And usually, that is why they choose a certain path of education;  because they are inclined towards it, unless parents influence them otherwise. If not, they choose their path and go further. I am talking about inclinations because if you look into yourself and find your inclinations, you will easily understand your patterns; it is easy to understand. Destiny is not easy to understand because destiny is as it unfolds.

So if you really look into yourself, behind every habit, behind every tendency, behind every like, behind every dislike, you see inclinations at work. Another example where you can see inclinations at work is how some people like devotion; they like to chant, they like to sing and they like to see or feel God through Bhakthi or devotional path.

Some people need answers, they have lots of questions and they need answers. If they don’t get answers, they don’t accept. That is the knowledge path.  Like that, we have the path of service, path of Supreme Consciousness, and so many different paths. This tells clearly our tendency, our inclination. Thus, if you look into yourself and understand the patterns that you have, the habits that you have, all these  point towards your inclination; and they are the cause for your daily experiences also, that is where I am coming to.

So, what causes anger, what causes hatred, and all such emotions? The primary cause is always an expectation, an unfulfilled expectation. If you understand your tendencies and just watch them; don’t do anything, just keep watching …“This is my tendency, these are my inclinations…“ If you keep watching, after a while you will see that your anger quotient has reduced, expectation reduces, disappointment reduces, anger reduces by itself.


People love gossips right? People make television  series out of it, and also make a lot of money. What is the cause of gossips? Personal insecurities. If you are fully secure you will not talk about another person. It doesn’t matter. If you are insecure, then you will talk about other people to cover your insecurity. When you are secure, and when you are contented, you will permit life to go on, you will allow life to flow. You will not be worried about anything.

This is approximate picture of anger. I hope you understood  where the anger comes from. Now you look within, and see what is causing that anger. When somebody is angry with you, what is the best way to handle it? Will you shout back? Smile. They are expressing their weakness, right? Let it be. Your presence should make them feel better, not worse. Mostly, when your ego is hurt, anger happens. It is a response or a reaction of the ego.

Sexuality and homosexuality

Now about homosexuality, what is the problem with that? All people have sexuality. Everybody. Not only human beings, but  beings of every species. Why is it so? To continue the species. That’s exactly why the aspect of sexuality is connected to every being. But most beings, except  the humans, keep sexuality to their body. What do we do? We keep sexuality in our mind, and we don’t know how to get rid out of it. That is why we have a huge porn industry. Why is it happening? Because we keep sexuality in the mind. If you show a porn to an animal, it wouldn’t want it to see it. The point that I am emphasizing is that everything in life has its place and it has its relevance. When these are migrated  somewhere else, they change their forms. When anything is suppressed, or controlled or denied or disciplined,  it creates different shapes;  whatever is suppressed or denied,  they create or  change into different aspects, different forms. I would say, do not look at sexuality as a disease. It’s part of life, and it’s a part of the instinct which is God given, which is a part of Creation. It is connected to the basic instincts, it is the basic instinct. What is the basic instinct? Instinct for survival. Survival instinct is our basic instinct. One part is food, the other part is sexuality, connected to the survival instinct.  We don’t have control over sexual orientation because  it is connected to various factors. It could even be what we get to see in the world, such as certain phobias, fears or concepts, how we are brought up, or what is denied, so many factors… It is not just one thing;  lots of things are connected to this. If you understand, this is it, we will not have much opinion about it. I don’t give opinion about any of the personal orientations. Because I am nobody to give an opinion. I have no right.


I only say two things: One is accept yourself as you are completely. The second is, do not be violent, by any means, in thoughts, words or actions. That means total acceptance and non-violence. There is peace on earth.

We are 7.5 billion people on earth now. If all people are heterosexual, it will double up in no time. I think nature is keeping some checks. We respect nature. But I never give an opinion. I don’t have an opinion nor do I ever say anybody’s  non-violent expression is bad, because it’s not my job. Nor is it your right to judge another person. You have no right and that is because of one reason, we do not know another person. I do not know another person because I see another person only at a certain time, for a certain space in time, not beyond. Neither do you see another person;  everybody sees each other only for a certain time, then how can we judge another person?

 But we can accept everybody, just as we have to accept ourselves.

I hope that it is answered. I never explained sexuality in such detail.

Not a bad idea.

Q: When will I find a soulmate (a man)?

M: Look around, in the larger world (laughter). But before that, have you found your own soul? If you have found your own soul, and if you have accepted that soul, as the one real aspect of your existence, you will definitely find your soulmate. Instead of looking outside, look inside, and find your only truth, and then, when you look outside you will only see truth. Instead, if you are looking outside, to find a person, you will only see forms, and you don’t know which is your soulmate. You need to understand your soul, to find soulmates.


Q: I would like to know what is the easiest way of clearing the blockages that I have?

M: One word – ACCEPTANCE. All the blockages are connected to resistance. Watch yourself. Try to find out how many things in life you have resisted and are still resisting which are making you unhappy. Usually, unhappiness is connected to resisting something; fighting against something; when we are against something,  our entire  energy is occupied with it and then we do not have time to be happy.  Instead,  start accepting yourself. Say, “OK, this is happening in life, let it come, let it go. Everything comes and goes.” When you are fully occupied with yourself and you are accepting yourself, then there is no room for blockages. Nothing can block you. Nothing within or outside can block you.

Q: How to deal with those heavy people, the emotional vampires?

M: That is a very big question J. What do we do with them? The only way you can sustain  different energies from the society is to increase your energy. There are methods: meditations, kriyas, chanting… You do a purification every day, for some time, at least a couple of hours, for two or three hours, internal purification, alignment. When you are fully aligned, nothing and nobody can take from you; you can give anything, but nobody cannot take away anything from you. So alignment consists of consistent activity, practice.

What practice is good for you? Practice which you can do effortlessly, without effort, one that you like to do, one you love to do, that is good for you.

Which teacher, master, Guru is good for you? The one with whom you can connect effortlessly.

Which religion is good for you? The religion, the road map  through which you can travel effortlessly. You are feeling good.

What is the common factor for all of these? YOU.


Everything is connected to you. When you wake up in the morning, you have a world outside of you. When you sleep at night, your world shuts down. That’s the only world you have: the world when you wake up, and when you sleep. The space in between that waking and sleep is your only world. Before you were born this world existed, after your death this world will exist, but that world does not belong to us. We can use this world only when you wake up, and in between, until the time you sleep. It is  very simple.

We are busy trying to conquer this world, and all that we want there. But what will you do with that? We are busy queuing to buy the new iphone 10. After a while, somebody says, “iphone 11 is coming,“ so this is useless. We are always chasing something new, and we get tired. Sometimes we get tired.  That is exactly the point. The point is that everything is you. With or without the iPhone, you are still you.

So, what is our job? Recognize this truth – You are everything. Where is Mohanji sitting? Only when you are awake, sometimes outside. Is Mohanji relevant? Not as relevant as you are. Not only me, anything outside of you is only complementing your existence. But your existence is owned by you.

If you really understood what I am saying, if you really understood this point, you will never be disappointed in life. You will be happy with what you have, and you will not have unhappiness with what you don’t have. You will be happy with whatever you have right now. It does not mean that you become dull, you become contented, peaceful. This is good, isn’t it?

But to all the people who came to see me I am very happy (smiles) don’t think I am not happy. I am really happy you came to see me. I appreciate it.


But please understand, the whole spiritual journey and the material journey also, all types of journeys, the journey of life is you, is connected to you, you are the beginning, and you are the end. And never feel that somebody else is ruining your life, that somebody else is deciding your life, somebody else is trying to manipulate your life, that is not true. It is only as much as you allow, they can enter. Only as much as you open the door, air or light will enter. It’s not about other people, it’s about us. The story called life is about us. It’s our story. There will be many players, there will be many people participating, like in a drama. They are all complementing your story. They are not creating a new story. You are the main player. You are the main actor, the hero. And many people are playing the other roles, let them play, it’s nice. There will be romance, there will be horror, good, bad, ugly, everything. But that is the beauty of life. That is how life should be. It can’t be monotonous, right?

Thus, as a matter of interaction with the society, I always say this, let everything you do, let it be honest to yourself. Means, there should be honesty and purity in your thoughts, words, actions, so you are fine that way. If there is no honesty, then slowly you will start hating yourself; it’s not about people, it’s about us. It’s our story. We have to keep it pure and honest. Nice, beautiful, fragrant.


Q: There is a secret connection between India and Serbia. Do you agree?

M: I not only agree, I feel. That is why my wife is from Serbia; irreversible connection. Another thing is that like the language; there is a lot of resemblance, I would say, between  Sanskrit  which is the substratum for most of Indian languages and as well as the language here, I believe. I would rather look at the entire Balkans. It  makes more sense  because there is a lot  in common.  There is a lot of frequency connection with the larger Balkans. I don’t look at countries, I look at energies. So, when you look at the energies, there is  a unity in the whole region.  You can feel the same in India, in what we would call  Bharat India, which means the spiritual India. The basic vibration is that of spirituality. There is a deeper link here. We are linked in some ways. There is a lot of connection, visible and invisible. Most importantly, we are all related, soul-wise. We are soulmates in that way.

Don’t worry, I love South Africa also, don’t be sad. J These sisters had a sad face (talking to the audience). America also, Sedona. J I really like Sedona. That is the Kailash of America. I love Sedona.


Q: I used to be afraid  of  authority and kind of ashamed. It’s no longer the case, but why do I react by shivering when I am getting in touch with any authorities and how do I defeat that, how to overcome that?

M: That’s connected to what is stored inside. All our responses, all our inclinations, all our styles and tendencies, they are all connected to what is inside of us. If you deeply look within, and start facing that particular situation or pattern, they will start vanishing. They start dissolving. Don’t think anything is permanent unless you keep it permanent. If you start looking at all your fears, straight into the eyes, they just vanish, they dissolve. Because everything has its duration, and its limitation. When you are really focused on all the fears, nothing will stay.

As a general thumb rule, all that you are experiencing is as per what you have stored. Because these are the impressions, which you have picked up from your experiences, and they got stored in our system. For example, you had tremendous problems with teachers in classes or with a teacher and your experience wasn’t so good, you may keep the tendency or a feeling that anybody of authority has to be feared, that they are probably not good for you, and you started  responding that way. There are many trapped emotions, which are the reason for certain experiences we have in our lifetime.


Transcribed by Nada Rakovic
Proofread by Vidya Rajagopalan

A Spoonful of the Highest Knowledge – Birthday Satsang

Mohanji’s Birthday Celebration in Sri Lanka, on 23rd February 2020

Thank you!

This trip to Sri Lanka was not really one of the planned trips.(Note- the trips that have been planned well in advance) When we thought of coming here, we planned it of course and my birthday happened to be during this time. Kataragama is also a very, very important location especially for people on the path of Kriya Yoga and those following Babaji and Lord Muruga. These kinds of things, even if you plan, may not work out well.

So I am really grateful for this group – all of you who have come from various locations together along with me to this particular place, at this particular time, and in 2020 when the decade has just begun. I believe there is a great significance, not just a spiritual significance, but a kind of inevitable larger unification because we have fragmented the world a lot especially in the last hundred years. With the rise in technology, we thought that the world would be united by now – that there  will be only one country which is called Earth, but that was not to be the case. We have fragmented more and more. We live in a fragmented world. We look at other human beings through the eyes of religions, the eyes of class, the eyes of communities, the eyes of hierarchies, through the eyes of discrimination – we look  at the world like that. That is not a typical ‘human’ existence, that’s not being human. That’s not being ourselves, totally.

What does it mean, to be ourselves completely? It is when we look at ourselves as one species, relevant to the whole world – not as dividing the world, but integrated into this whole world and for the benefit of all beings. That should be for all beings. That should be our defining factor, as a species.

Mohanji's birthday satsang in Sri Lanka 23 February 2020 with the main priest from Shirdi

There have been numerous habitations in this universe. Earth is not the only place where beings can experience an existence, this is just one of the many places. Our scriptures talk about when Creation happened – that the prajapatis, the people who had that ability to create, started working on this platform for the purpose of creating, with the only condition that perhaps harmony not be disturbed. Numerous beings decided to use this peripheral for their creativity. Some of them decided to create in water, some of them on land. And they created beings with evolutionary potential, so that those beings could evolve as well. So the technique of this whole infusement was similar to the technique of praana pratishtha, which we do now. Praana pratishtha is a process where a human-made structure, made in a particular size with a particular vaastu, is infused with a certain energy, and so that it can also transmit that energy. There was a time when in a similar way, people were equipped to create beings and infuse life energy into them which we call soul. The structures are very, very clearly defined. The driving force has been inclinations – like in human existence, we say the driving force are inclinations, not karma. We all have inclinations, tendencies. They are the driving force. They drive our system. They drive our existence. Karma comes later – karma is unfulfilled desires or what we want to experience within an incarnation and that comes later. But inclinations are unavoidable, they are more or less constant. Once you have inclinations and tendencies in childhood, the same things continue till death. You can probably see slight deviations, but more or less they remain – the basic character, constitution and tendencies. There is no point in blaming somebody: “Oh, you have these tendencies”. We all have tendencies, we all have inclinations. Nobody is immune to it.

The main motivational force of existence is instinct, which is across species. Every species is driven by instinct. The primal instinct is the survival instinct. Every being is equipped to survive. They have their nature to survive, their nature to live. Instinct cannot be compromised. There is no point in discussing that we have instincts. Human beings have instincts, all beings have instincts. And all other beings, except for the human being, are fully focused on their instinct or they are fully aligned with their instincts. Their imaginations, intellect and all their activities are linked to those instincts –  like a bird or fish knows where to go to eat or to find food; all these beings are driven by their instincts. But human formation, human beings are different. We have intelligence and imagination separated from instinct. We all definitely have survival instincts – we have instinct for when we become hungry, since the equipment needs nurturing. So we have the body which needs food, the mind that needs emotions, the intellect that needs information, the ego that needs materials, positions, possessions. These are all the feeds into those systems, those you can’t change. You have it, and you can’t change it. These fundamental things you can’t change, but for human beings, intelligence and imagination are isolated from the instincts. And because of that, we have a distinction, and the signs of that is all that we have created on earth. Human creations are a sign of a detached intelligence and imagination and to the level where we can realize and experience God – that means the subtlest of possibility is the God element. Our subtle-most possibility is the God element. We look within and we see that the soul part within us is connected to the God element. We have that power, we have that capacity to go deep within, to explore and experience God. That level of evolution we have.

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But if you look at the world today, why do we have divisions? Why do we have separations? We have lots of divisions, lots of separations, color, caste, country creed, class, religions, language barriers; we have all these things. They all are not exactly signs of refinement of a species. They are signs of instincts, basically survival instinct – that instinct which is inherent in every being. And we are supposed to be human beings, detached from the basic instincts of survival, like food, sexuality, those kind of stuff. We are supposed to be evolving into a level where we look at the whole world and say that, “Because we have this intelligence, the world should be a better place.” But did we actually deliver that world? Did we? We haven’t!

Today, I wouldn’t recommend too much self practice, instead I would  recommend awareness. What you need more is awareness. The thing that we need today is a clear definition that changing into another religion, changing into something from one point to the other, is not going to change you. What you need is a total transformation where you wake up and decide – I will do something for this earth from now, it doesn’t matter who I am, it doesn’t matter what my capacity is, it does not matter whether I am rich or poor.  But the whole decision that you need to take is to make sure that the earth will be a better place because you have taken birth. If purpose is clear, inspiration is spontaneous. Purpose has to be very clear. Otherwise, we are drinking, eating, sleeping, dying. The same process – the same pattern, nothing, no change. We think that we as human beings are better off  than all other species, we believe so. We kind of control other beings, including other human beings. The more intelligent we become, the more things we control. All these things are not signs of refinement. They are all signs of ego existence. Are you with me? This is something which I want to give you as a thought.


We are born as human beings, an amazing and great blessing. It’s a great blessing to be a human being, but are we living as human beings? This is the question we need to ask. We see mad competition and comparisons, these are all signs of degeneration. Who do we compete with? What are we competing for? Who we can compare ourselves with? There is nobody the same. We all look different, we are all different creations – even two leaves of the same plant may not be the same. So we have our distinctions, and that capacity should be well used. It should be used well. And depending on external knowledge and feeling that we know everything, that is the highest of stupidities. The highest! Because external knowledge is only as much as your brain can hold, and lasts only until you reach the grave, until your death. Knowledge should sprout from inside. Thats yours, all the time. What is yours is what comes from within. For that, you need to be with yourself. You need to connect to yourself. Do not judge, do not compare, do not criticize, do not look at yourself as against or as non-aligned with any of the systems. Instead, feel yourself as a part of this flow of life. And then, what comes out will be great stuff. We have that capacity. We do. This is what I wanted to say in the beginning.

I would like to thank Sulakhe Maharaj. He has been extremely busy – if you go to Shirdi, you will know. But he decided to take off and come here with his wife, his life partner, and spend  two or three days with us. This is a great honor. I consider that Shirdi Sai Baba has come here.

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Maharaj-ji comes from the place of Babaji, so that means that Baba and Babaji are united here. Maharaj-ji also came with us to Kailash, last year in 2019.

Thanks to all of you for coming here from various locations and being here. It’s amazing.

I’ll take your questions now.

I would also like to thank all the people who wished me, a day before in fact. For almost 48 hours since I have been getting birthday greetings. Each year there is more and more, and I am very happy. I am really happy that people remember my birthday (laughter in audience).

I am also really happy that on that day at least they remember to serve the world, to give something to the poor. See, this is not only our right – it’s both right and responsibility to share. You become very powerful when you share – the ability to share makes you really rich. Otherwise you can earn anything you want, you can probably have millions but you will feel poor. When you start sharing, it starts brightening the lives of other people. People means people of any species, they are all people – please don’t think that the only people are the human beings. Any species, all species have their character, their constitution, their own uniqueness, just like us. We are neither high nor lower than anybody else. We are not even the same, we are unique. We are unique creations. When we decide to help and support beings of any species with what we have, only with what we have in abundance, we become rich.

We are rich people, all of us, there is nobody poor. If we are at all feeling poor, understand that we are judging ourselves, comparing ourselves with somebody else. If at all you feel weak and insecure, you are already judging or comparing yourself – this you should remember. Otherwise, you will not feel weak. So it’s important to share what we have. It doesn’t matter what you have: if you have time to share, you can share that, if you have money, you can share money, if you have clothes to share, share clothes, skills to share, share skills. SHARE what you have, whatever that you have been given in abundance. That is your responsibility.

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When Adi Shankaracharya told the meditating monks in the Himalayas, “You should share what you have, they replied saying,“We have nothing to share. We don’t have any money. We are sitting in these Himalayas meditating, we are trying to find God. But we have nothing with us, not even clothes.” Then he said, “But just share what you have.” They repeated, “Sir, we have nothing to share.” Then he said, “Yes, you have something. Then what is that? It’s the power that you earned with your penance. Your single-pointed concentration on God has given you a lot of powers – that you should share.”

That is a very important subject, a very important thing. It means that when you are using this earth to realise God, you must share what is given to you. Nobody takes anything from here. This earth is just a platform, just to experience. Where does the problem start? When we start owning. When we decide we should own earth, or own part of earth, or own things from earth, that is where the problem starts. Then ignorance settles in. But just like we are here, just as we came to Kataragama, we are not going to take this temple with us, are we? We came, we prayed, we surrendered, we respected, and we are going. What you are taking from here? Apart from memories, nothing. But that is the truth of our life. This is the way we are. We can’t take anything from here. So if you are clearly aware of that, whatever we have, you will leave it behind here. You have taken a body, mind, intellect, ego and you have a spirit, and you have a soul. That is only to experience many aspects of life. That is it. Who you are in this life is what you chose to be. You came with that plan.

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I never thought I would be sitting in front of people and talking. I used to practise very sincerely for a long time, and I thought that this was my personal life, and I didn’t want to share it – this was my personal thing. But then once I settled down in silence, the first thing I was told is that: “Speak to people.” It took about six years to go deeper and deeper into layers of silence, and establish in silence. That is the time when I was told, “Ok, now you got what you wanted, now go and share it.” That is very painful. It’s very, very painful, because you took a lot of time to come out of all the noises, and establish in silence. Then you are asked to go back to noises, but as silence. I was with noises as a noise, but now I am with the noises as silence. That is the difference. You understand that? So, that is possible in a human existence. This thing is possible. So when we decide: “I can own these things, I can own the materials and persons, relations and all these things”, that “I own”, it is a big aberration. We own nobody. We cannot own anything. So what is the best we can do? Experience life and share beautifully. This is the best you can do. That really makes you rich. Life becomes meaningful. Life really becomes meaningful. Insecurities will come. We are habituated to it. We have habitual insecurities. Many of the habits are because we are used to them, not that we need them, isn’t it? Many things which we do is because we are used to them, we don’t know anything else. So if that thing is missing, then we feel something is wrong. It’s not that we actually need it, we may not need it. Like that, most of our insecurities are habitual. Some people love diseases. It might sound strange, but without diseases they don’t know what to do ! This happens to people.

When you start connecting to yourself, you will realise what sort of a bundle you are. And you will be suprised. You might be suprised to see that many of the things you thought as very important, have no value actually. It’s a bubble which we have maintained in life, which did not really matter. We will feel that. And also after a while when you think about the core of existence, all the noises have come out of silence. Noises are like the waves coming out of silence, and then going back into the ocean. Waves can’t stand there forever. Noises cannot have existence forever. They go back. So when you really start connecting to the core, that is silence. Where are emotions then? They are just like waves. They don’t stay. They come and they go. So you start witnessing them: “Oh, this man is now getting angry.” Watch your anger, “Now he is in a comparison mode.” Ok, compare. Experience that feeling. I have always said, some days when you wake up, you say, “I can’t get out of bed, its a bad day, I can’t do anything.” What should you do then? Just be like that. Experience that feeling totally. Another day you wake up and say, “I am very charged up today, I want to do so many things , I want to change the world.” Go out and change it (laughs). So, if you clearly follow your waves, the waves and the patterns of your life, you will understand that many of these things have been controlling you since childhood. Inclinations are controlling you. Inclinations are deciding what you should experience. Sometimes the government decides what you should experience. We have a government inside! Inclinations, tendencies, they decide what you should experience. Sometimes, even before we see something, we say, “I don’t like it.” We have not even seen it. What tells you that you don’t like it? What is the thing which tells you don’t like it? What is stored inside.

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See, we are living in a world where there are three distinct operating modes of consciousness each time. Consciousness is one, but it operates in three different modes every day, in 24 hours. Waking state: when you source from the world outside. We have the world outside and you source from that world outside. Dream state: you source from the world inside. Whatever is stored, whatever is collected, whatever is secured that is what becomes ingredients for dreams. Deep sleep state: you have nothing. No world outside, no world inside, whether you are alive or dead, nobody knows. Then you wake up in the morning. Again you are waking up to the world outside, when you wake up – it is a waking up to the world outside. Then you are whoever you are. I hope you are in a waking state now! (laugh) Then you go to the dream state. Essential state. Why are dreams essential? Because that is also experience. Dreams give you experience. Whatever gives you experiences is essential because that is a part of your living agenda. Dreams are important. Then you go into deep sleep, for two or three hours – just sufficient time to charge your mobile phone. About one hour or two of deep sleep. Totally dead. Then you wake up into the same body. In the death state, you wake up in a different body – that is the only difference. That is how creation works.

So when the whole creation happened, various beings, great creators happened. They are called the children of Brahma, a lot of children of Brahma. They have the power. They can unify. Their skill was like the sculptors of today – they unify materials, they have the capacity to unify materials, to give it a form and give it an energy so that it becomes alive. That is what was called existence, the creation. So every creation was complementary, like because there are many deer they created a few carnivorous beings so the population is maintained. And all the plants, birds, seeds, everything – all these things are connected to life and living. So everything was synchronised. The basic elements were water, fire etc., using which they created. So, based on the capacities of the world, there were creations as well. Some creations could use the sky, some could use earth, some could use water. And they were built in those peripherals.

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So with this understanding if you look at the world, you will respect all creations. We stopped looking at the world like that. We stopped looking at the world with this awareness. That’s where we decided we can kill certain species, we can destroy certain creations, and everything is for the sake of human beings. Absolutely not. Nothing is for the sake of human beings. But human beings have that capacity to admire and appreciate creations. We have that capacity. If we do not utilize that capacity to admire and appreciate creations, we are not living as human beings. Are you with me? This is all food for thought. Just think about that.

If you start looking at life in this manner, your whole heart will expand. You will look at every creation with awe, including yourself. Amazing creations. You will not discard your tendencies – “I have this tendency, I have this weakness, strength. Let it be.” All people have their weaknesses and strengths. Because somebody has a weakness and because they don’t fit into your frame, they are not bad people. We should not discriminate. Discrimination is ignorance. That means lack of understanding. We don’t see karma. If somebody is supposed to experience something in life, they will have that experience. Because duration is fixed. Time of birth and time of death are fixed. Within this time, we have to deliver. We have to receive experiences and deliver what we want to deliver. Like how the avadhoota said to Maha Kaali, “Can you extend my life for one more day?” He actually needed nothing from life. But he said, “If you want to give me a blessing, give me a blessing that I live for one more day.” There is no use, but still some blessing!  So she replied, “No, I can’t do that.” He said, “One hour?” The reply was, “No. At the appointed time you will go.” He said, “Then I don’t need your blessings.” (laugh) Because it is already determined. What will you give me? This  is exactly the situation. We have taken the time of birth which was not our choice, or probably it was chosen in a different level. And time of death, you can’t extend by one hour. And then, what are we conquering from earth then? From this world, what are you going to get? So, what you can deliver to this world is the only possibility that you have. So, deliver yourself.

I was writing recently that I decided to give to God what I have. Then I decided to check what I have. When I checked, I found nothing. Because the body is temporary, it is taken from here for the sake of experience. My mind, intellect and ego are connected to ether, they are born from ether, I can’t hold it. And, I can’t even feel it as tangible in all the three states. Then materials – they are outside of me. Whether I am living or dead, they still exist – so those are not mine. Then what is inside of me is what comes as a guest from the outside world – all the memory, all the likes, dislikes, all the feelings, they all come from outside as guests. They will leave at some point of time. Guests don’t stay. So that is not mine. Then the soul – and soul belongs to God anyway. Then what do I give Him? Him or Her, whatever is God. So what do you give? So it is arrogance to think that  God needs us. It is better to realise God. To be aware of the God factor, where you stop existing. You stop to exist. When you become aware of the God factor, you dissolve. That is a good idea. Because that’s worth it. Because we have taken this birth, use the time well and try to understand the God factor in you. The God particle in you. Try to be with it longer. This is the only way you can dissolve.

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You could associate with positive things longer in life so it helps alignment. When you are associated with powerful, aligned people you will become aligned. That is the beauty. When you sit with the smokers in a room at the airport, even if you did not smoke, people will think you smoked. Because your clothes will absorb it. Likewise, when you are in the aura and company of powerful people, you will become aligned. So the Sanskrit phrase ‘satsangatvey nissangatvam’ – that means that through the satsang or company of good people, or positive, energetic, and vibrant people, you learn to detach. What is detachment? Detachment is that awareness that nothing outside of me belongs to me, they are only triggering my own experiences which are inside. So whether that thing exists or not, I am still the same. That is detachment.

When detachment happens, desires become less. Desires are mostly connected to ignorance. I want this, I want that. If this thing also comes to me, I will be happier. If I have two cars, I will be more happy, and if I have three cars, better. If I have a jet plane that is even better. Like that, the desires never end. It upgrades itself. So, when you are detached from the world outside, what you basically need is just four wheels to move from one place to the other. So if that is there, you are happy. Detachment leads to less desires. Desires have a problem – they have bubbles coming out. What are the bubbles? Thoughts. They create thoughts -numerous thoughts, which leads to various other things but we will not discuss that now. Thoughts leads to insecurities, to restlessness, to so many things. Numerous thoughts. When you have less desires, you will have less thoughts. What happens when you have less thoughts? Stillness of mind. Mind is not a bad guy. Mind depends on what is spread in it. If you feed the mind with lots of thoughts, the mind becomes overactive. If no thoughts come through the mind, the mind is free. Mind is like a movie projector – if you put in a film roll, it projects the film on the screen. If there is no film roll to project, the mind is free, the mind doesn’t project anything. The same with the intellect.

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The intellect is overwhelmed, actually running overtime processing information today, because we are in the internet age. You are getting tons of information, 80% of which you don’t even need, the vital statistics of the president of the country etc. We don’t even need all that information. But these kinds of information are fed, and then it is processed. What is processed becomes knowledge. Information processed becomes the knowledge. Knowledge experienced becomes wisdom. So, lots of information,some of it becomes knowledge, and that also has to be processed while you have your habits, likes and dislikes, and tendencies. Then it becomes knowledge. And knowledge sitting as knowledge has no use. It has to be experienced. Once it is experienced, it becomes wisdom. We are so limited. We are in that kind of limited mode. That is what we are.

In this whole game, what you get when the mind is reasonable still – you get liberation. It is good to have good company, so that you have a chance for liberation. The good company should be yourself. The most reliable company should be yourself.  Because the other company you can’t trust fully. They should have time for you and you should have time for them. Instead, you have all the time for yourself. Make well use of it. What should you do? You should recognize yourself as a unique creation, fundamentally. Second, you should appreciate and accept all your weaknesses, before the strengths. The strengths we are eager to accept and post in the world. I have so many strengths, we are even making posters and putting that on the website. (laugh)  But with weaknesses we hide them under the carpet and sometimes they become a nuisance. But we all have weaknesses. Who has only strengths? I have never seen anybody in this world who has only strengths. We have weaknesses, we have strengths, this is part of us. That level of acceptance makes the mind at ease. Otherwise, one mask, another mask, third mask and we forget who we are finally. Everytime you look in the mirror, it’s a mask. Then we wonder who we are. Like an actor busy playing many roles, each day. Finally he forgets who he is, because he gets attuned with the roles he played. We all play various roles and we are none of these roles. We are none of these roles perpetually, truly. We must understand this.

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We are everything. We need to accept ourselves. Who is the true master? The one who is within you. That one which when it leaves the body, we call the body a dead body. When this fellow leaves, we call it a dead body. Until then, we call it a person. So probably the personality in that person is really you. When that  personality goes, the body is useless.

Yesterday, we went to that place where Hanumanji burnt a part of the palace of  Raavana. Raavana had all the ego. What are the main ingredients of the ego ?  One is position, one is possession – these are the signs of ego. Because it helps ego, what you have and what you are. Raavana was a king, a very powerful man with great power. Plus he was a brahmin, the head of the priestly class. Big ego. So he said, “What is the source of ego for a monkey? The tail.” So Raavana gave orders to tie a long piece of cloth on the tail, pour some oil and burn it. So that his (Hanuman’s) ego will be hurt. What did Hanumanji do? He had nothing to lose. What did he do? He set the place on fire, put his tail in the ocean, extinguished the fire, and left. So Raavana did not know what to do then. Because his ego was seriously affected. Because a part of his beautiful palace was burnt. That is connected to his ego, his stature. That’s the place we visited. When what is connected to ego is burnt, it means ego is affected. Usually when ego is affected, it spits venom. When somebody insults you, what do you feel? You become angry, venomous, you want to take revenge. This is human nature. When somebody attacks your ego, and you are able to sit back and watch, “Oh, here the ego goes. Here it is getting dissolved. Melting like ice in the sun.” If you are able to watch it, you win. Because there is nothing you have here that you brought.

Nothing that you own today is yours, actually. You did not bring it. It came to you, so how can you own it? Imagine your personal relations, people, materials, time, space, all these things. Have you brought them? Did you bring them when you came? You didn’t. They all came to you but you started owning them, because you thought you are the boss. So if you are aware of this need for clear awareness, this clear awareness will help you stabilize yourself. Then nobody can insult you. Or if they insult you, it doesn’t matter. Whether they criticize you, betray you, or steal from you – it doesn’t matter. What do you own anyway? This awareness will stabilize you.  It will keep you steady. These are all pointers which I am giving so you understand that this trip is also connected to it.  Where we went today, Guru gave himself to Babaji. The best that a Guru can give to a disciple is himself. Not the teachings. Teachings are nothing. Teachings are just to align, to bring the mind to a certain platform to alignment. Teaching, coaching, guidance, this is all for bringing to a certain alignment. When this alignment happens, when emptiness takes place and you are stable in that empty space for some time, Guru transfers himself to you.

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Just like this: you see so many lamps here. Are we going to pour more oil in them? These lamps here – a matchstick was required to light only one lamp. Am I right? Then how did the other lamps get lit? One from the other. Just like that, a ripe and ready disciple is like dry wood. One spark is enough to catch the fire. The problem is that these ripe and right disciples are very few, because they are all minds. They only know practices. So they practice eternally. And they feel they are very spiritual. They are doing puja, they are going to different places etc. They are busy entertaining the mind, but not stabilising the mind. That is what is  required for a Guru to deliver. You need to stablilise your mind, you need to be stable. Mind, intellect, ego, spirit, and body should be together. Just imagine how powerful you become. Mind, intellect, ego, body and spirit, together. So when you look, everything looks. When you hear, everything listens. When you smell, everything smells. Not like you catch the mind for some time, you smell then your mind goes away. It’s like a restless monkey: “I have to look”. Then the mind looks. Or “I have to see this”. So the mind comes for sometime, until this vision goes and then your mind goes away. Our life is like that. Here that is not that case. Mind is steady. If you choose to look, mind, intellect and ego look together. Then your words become commands. Everything will become commands. You will not be bound by life, you are life. Otherwise, we are bound by life. If you have even one percent ‘Me’ and ‘Mine’, you are bound. ‘Me’ and ‘Mine’ : position and possession or ownership. Ownership creates karma. Thought plus emotion becomes karma. Words plus emotion becomes karma. Action plus emotion becomes karma. Minus emotion, it does not become karma. Simple. Thought, word, action – standing alone, they cannot produce karma. Only when ownership attached, and emotion is ownership. Where are emotions coming from? Expectations. Expectations are coming from what you are, where you are operating from. I expect so many things from you means I am bound by you. If I am independent, everything is a bonus for me – means, it’s all complementing fact. We are all walking this path. Nobody owns nobody. Nobody can own anybody. We don’t have the right or responsibility to own anybody. We are all individuals, just individuals, joined together in this space and time for some reason. We may not even know the reason, we don’t have to. Just be grateful we are here. That is it.

I will take your questions now.

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Q: Today we were at Kataragama at the temple, and there were several samadhis there. One of them was of Palkudi Baba, from 1898. I was just wondering if you could explain more about the masters, who they are, what makes a master eligible to actually have a samadhi? What is the purpose of samadhi? Second question is about what Boganathar actually taught Babaji, what was their relationship?

M: You want to put me in trouble! (laughter) Well, samadhi is a state which is already in everyone. Samadhi is a state where the mind is still, or where mind has no feeds. That’s the first level of samadhi. The first level of samadhi as we say is savitarka samadhi. Savitarka samadhi is the state which is very normal. Savitarka samadhi means you have a desire that gets fulfillment, and for the time being, the mind is at ease. Mind is still. Again you have a desire. You need and then get fulfillment, and then mind is at ease again. So like that, it goes on. This is the first level. Then it reaches the second level where you have a desire but it is not powerful enough to ask for fulfillment. Desires are there like – “Oh, I would like to have it”, but it’s ok. Not because you don’t have money or resources, and also not because of your inertia, or laziness – not because of that. You have the full potential to accomplish it but you don’t need it. You have already attained the second level of samadhi. Third level of samadhi is that if you go through this process, your thought itself will not materialize, because you are not asking for fulfillment. When thought cannot become an action, and further experience. First of all, chronology of action goes like that. A thought happens. Before the thought there is a desire. Before desire there is an impression. Numerous thoughts happen everyday. Everything will not become powerful as an expression. So if it becomes an expression, and for example you have a thought, “I need to have a cup of coffee.” Then you have an expression, “Can you get me some coffee?” Then you have a cup of coffee. That is the third: action. Thought-expression-action. Then what comes? Experience. Action also needs time and space. We have time and space, that is why you need earth for your experiences. Then experiences become memories: “That place I went to, the coffee was good.” That’s a memory. Then again, it’s not only the coffee, it’s probably the place, probably the person who served the coffee, whatever. That becomes a memory. And memory again brings back thoughts. When this process continues, it becomes patterns. This is how human existence happens.

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States of samadhi

First level: you have a desire for coffee, you had the coffee and for that time, mind is being ok. After a while you say, I would like to have another coffee. Again the mind asks for coffee. Not mind, but the thoughts came for coffee. Mind is just a platform, mind is just a projector. Then fulfillment.

Second level: you have a desire for coffee but it is not powerful enough for action. I would like to have coffee but it doesn’t matter. Again as I said, it’s not because of laziness or lack of resources.

Third level: Because you are not getting fulfillment, thoughts themselves are outside of you, just like the people walking on the street. You will have thought but thoughts are distant from you. “I need a coffee” is almost like somebody is telling, not like you are telling from inside. Do you get that? Third level – that distance happens. Because the thoughts are not within you, and almost like outside of you.

Fourth level: there will be no thoughts. That is a state of nirvichaara samadhi. No-thought state. From that state onwards, you can’t reverse. When nirvichaara samadhi happens, that means the fourth state happens. Thoughts collapse completely. Thoughts are like pillars holding the mind. Along with the thoughts, mind collapses. Minimal mind, mind collapses. When mind collapses, you will not get it back again. Until the mind fully collapses, you will always reverse back, you can go back. That is why you need to be extraordinarily connected to the Guru, who has stabilized his mind. Because as I told you, it was tremendous exercise to dive deep into silence. Five to six years of constant practice. After that when you interact, you will be  interacting from that point of silence, not from the point of noises. The fourth state is when the thoughts have declined. Thoughts have subsided and mind collapses, then you cannot have the mind.

Fifth state: you have a body, you have an existence, you are probably functioning. But you are not owning your body, you are not owning the existence, you have no ownership. You are free already. Freedom sets in the fourth state. Totally free. You are not bound by anything. Your body, mind, intellect, ego, all the gadgets are there. Everything is there, but you are not bound by any. You are not bound by materials outside, you are not bound by things inside. You are totally free. Usually there will be nothing inside. No thoughts. Where do thoughts come from? Stored memories. There is no memory. The fifth level is that you have your body, you have your existence, but it is almost like you are not there.

Then comes the sixth state. You are not even aware of the body – like Neem Karoli Baba, Bhagavaan Nityananda, and various masters from the past.  They are not aware of the body. When somebody gives food, they will eat. Sometimes you have to put food in their mouths so they eat, otherwise they don’t eat, because they are not aware. Now, in that state when death happens….. First of all, understand that all the three states become one in that state – there is no waking , sleep and deep sleep separately. When the mind dissolves, then dream state completely goes. Because dream state is connected to data inside, stored data that doesn’t exist. The waking state will be there or probably an extended waking state, and deep sleep state or probably an extended deep sleep state. After the fourth state, the dream state itself collapses. Dream state is taking materials from stored data – memories for example, impressions, memories. Nothing is stored because whatever is stored has been exhausted. Some of the stored data are the acquired fears, agonies, etc – they all die. Then it’s only two states mostly. It’s an expanded state – you are already totally absorbed into the truth.

In that (sixth) state when you are leaving the body it is further expansion, there is nothing leaving. Leaving usually happens on a karmic state, when you have to shed one thing and take another one. Here you are not shedding anything. You are in one body and there is no more body to be taken. So what do we do? We expand. At the time of death you expand – that is why samadhi places are powerful. Like for example, Shirdi. Baba has not left. Baba has gone nowhere. There is nowhere to go for him. As he is, he is more active today. As he was existing in Shirdi at that time, he is existing even now because he does not need a body to communicate. Body is just an expression for people to connect to. See the image which we have here – if you connect to that particular form (form is just a connection point) then you will start experiencing the presence. Because you are not going, you are not leaving. Especially because there are no more incarnations to take.


When the usual karmic being who is full of mind, dies, it dies with a bundle of desires which need fulfillment. So what can you do? Come back in another body, that’s all you can do. And again ask for fulfillment. So where you left off, there you start. This is the usual situation. But when you are in a higher state of samadhi? How do you know whether you are in a state of samadhi? Less t.p.s. – thoughts per second, to a level of no thoughts. Level of no thoughts at all. Now with the samadhis here in this place, it must have been very powerful. I would presume that this place was a forest. This temple is standing alone there, this place became this temple probably later. People found a location suitable for a transfer. Boganathar especially would have found this place suitable for a transfer – isolated and away from people, so that you have continuity with the connection. As I said, for a Guru to transfer anything, you need to have a consistent connection. Consistent connection. Zero thoughts in between, especially no doubts. If you have one doubt, you are already separated. So, no doubts, continuous, consistent connection – then transfer is spontaneous. From the transformer outside, electricity is coming in, to finally light this bulb. Electricity is coming into this room, into this building, into this room, into this bulb. It needs continuous connection, that channel should be clear. Otherwise, it will not be consistent. It’s the same, when a student is well-connected to the Master, and is without doubts and fully connected all the time. Then the transfer is spontaneous, there is no formality for that. Number one – consistent connection. Number two – emptiness. These are the two things. When you are consistently connected to a Guru, spontaneously you will become Him. Then transfer is just a natural process. What a Guru is really giving to a disciple is Himself, fully.

But today, disciples see so many faces on television, so they keep wandering, they are getting nothing from anybody. Because there is no consistent connection. If you are consistently connected, then there is no way a transfer doesn’t happen. Transfer has to happen. Once you go into a certain state of samadhi, then you leave the frame behind in that location, that’s about it. Unless there is a reason, like when Sai Baba told Baba Ganeshaananda Giri to go to Chennai and leave the body. Sometimes when Guru sends the disciples to different places, that is for a purpose, that will be for a reason.


Devi: The question was, as far as I know, Mahavatar Babaji is the only master who actually retained the youthful body. That is not the common practice.

M: It’s not. He is an incarnation of Muruga. That’s why you saw the image of Muruga, then Babaji, and Boganathar sitting next to Him. Boganathar was clear that he (Babaji) is the reincarnation of Lord Muruga/Karthikeya, his form is like that. The techniques like kayakalpa created by Boganathar is to maintain youthfulness. But this technique is definitely possible, others have done that. That’s why in the original Nath tradition, the induction is below ten years. A student only below the age of ten years is taken. By the time they become fifteen or sixteen, they are kind of stabilised. Babaji is an incredible avataar. In the Avadhoota tradition He is called Mahatapa. In the Kriya Yoga tradition, He is called Babaji because he has no name.

Q: The second question was : what did Boganathar teach to Babaji? The question is actually, in those times of evolution and elevation, what did the master teach a disciple compared You and Him..What would he have taught those days?

M: Every Guru teaches so many things starting from cleaning the floor, cooking, washing clothes (laughter). There weren’t many clothes because being very tropical, one loincloth was enough. The techniques are connected mostly to kriya. One thing I will tell you. It depends on the disciple what Guru teaches. Every disciple is not taught like in school today. They look at the disciple, the capacity of the disciple, inclinations of the disciple, and teach accordingly. That is the system. That is why if you look at Babaji today, he has empowered each person differently. It’s not the same thing. It’s never ever one set of teachings. Depending on the caliber of the person, capacity of the person, they teach different things. So, it is very difficult to say what he taught. And what he taught Babaji, Babaji is displaying already. Whether he taught Babaji we don’t know, because did Sandeepany teach everything to Krishna? Are we sure? Krishna was an Avatar, and Sandeepany knew that Krishna was an avatar. Like the Guru of Adi Shankaracharya, Govinda Bhagavatpada, answered when he was asked who could teach Brahmajnaana – knowledge of the Brahman to the world. He replied, “Those who can contain the ocean in a bowl, they can teach.” What is that ocean? Infinite knowledge. What is that bowl?  One atom. If he can contain the infinite knowledge of the Universe or the whole knowledge in an atom, he can teach. Nobody else is eligible, they only have partial knowledge. They are not eligible to teach. This is what Govinda Bhagavatpada said. When Krishna came as an avatar, Sandeepany knew Krishna was an avatar. What could he teach him? Don’t think in terms of a teacher and disciple relationship, in terms of Boganathar and Babaji’s relationship, and that kind of thing. He would probably have taught something, but mostly what he would have taught was that he would given him time to empty himself – if he had something inside. I doubt whether Babaji had anything inside of him to empty. What is the usual thing we carry? Memories, expressions, impressions, so many things which are inside. Masters give time to expel them.


Make yourself empty. When ego rises, hit the ego. When ownership rises, hit the ownership. That’s probably what Masters will do – not maybe sitting and teaching. One or two techniques they can teach – maybe how to sit properly, how to lead a normal life, how to clean the floor, wash your dishes. Some of these things you can teach, but apart from that, the time is needed for what? To become You. More time is spent to be yourself. Modern education is making you as somebody else, not you as you. Today, we are learning about ‘twinkle, twinkle, little star’ and all these kind of things. How will you use it in daily life ? First of all, you are made stupid. Then we are expected to become a very intelligent person – that is the modern system. That is not education. Education is that everything should be that you are totally you. You become 100% you. That is the highest you can give to a disciple. Give time, situations, and guidance to be you. Then what comes out are unique expressions. Amazing revelations. They come, because you have it already. Then what can Guru give you finally as a graduation? Himself. Like one candle lights another. Flame is given. Now you go and don’t look back. That is the best a Guru can give to a disciple. But the disciple should stay – first of all. Mostly, like we saw that in a feature film, the disciple is basically an escapist. He decided to become a spiritual man. He went to the ashram and said, “I have decided to become a renunciate, a saint.” Guru said, “Good enough,” and the next  day he said, “Ok, now you wash the toilets.” The disciple  said, “I never even washed the toilet in my own house. How would I wash toilets here?” So, he left the ashram. These are the types of people who look for spirituality sometimes. Or look for spiritual awakening. You need to have total stability for that.

Now coming back to this question of Boganathar, what would he have given? If you want to see what Boghanathar has given, you should look at the techniques and the systems which he has delivered. This is all delivered through people, right? Various people. He has sculpted the idol of Palani with Babaji as the model with nine poisons. Each of those poisons can separately kill a person. But united together, it becomes a medicine for all diseases. So he created that. Extraordinary intelligence, right? He never killed a lot of rabbits to make these things. No experiments done in laboratories. This is exactly how they have delivered supreme stuff in totally non-violent environment. This is all part of it. It’s very difficult to say what he would taught Babaji. What Babaji displays today is probably from himself. See, if you are given the environment, and the time to stabilize into yourself, you will become that. You will become your absolute yourself. Then, when you are ripe and ready, the Guru just transfers himself, Guru can work through you. That’s all that he does. It’s not about the teaching. We need to forget the idea that we need to learn from outside to know. It’s actually stabilizing in yourself so that the knowledge comes from the inside. That’s true knowledge that is yours. That is your answer.


(Mohanji is answering someone’s question from the audience): “Witness it. You don’t have to address anything. Ego, intellect and mind are just the processors. What does ego process? Me and mine. Positions, possessions and stuff like that. When your ego is really high, watch that thing. You detach yourself and look at it. The antidote of ego is what? Humility. If you practice humility continuously: “I am not better than anybody.” It’s not like a depressive state where you feel useless. That’s a different story. Here you are not really positioning yourself higher. If you have deeper awareness, you will automatically have humility. Deeper awareness is connected to humility. I always believe that humility is the right antidote for ego. Ego for that matter is not a bad thing. In its elementary form, ego is good. Otherwise, if I ask you who you are and you tell me I am not sure, then it’s a problem, right? You need to know who you are in this life.

Q: The Datta tradition and the Guru Parampara – how does it differ from other systems or is it the same thing?

M: Well, the Datta tradition is one of the major traditions in India. The Datta tradition is usually according to me, connected to Raja Yoga path, total dissolution path. Lord Datta is the beginning, maintenance and the dissolution. As I have explained yesterday during Shivaratri about Lord Shiva:  Shiva is Supreme Consciousness, brightness, full awareness. We worship Shiva linga, li or la is connected to Layana – dissolution, dissolving. Ga means vast, unfathomable. So, the shiva linga is an expression of something which is vast and cannot be contained into any kind of form, structure or frame. We are worshipping Shiva, that state of being fully conscious. That is more or less the method of the Datta or Avadhoota tradition. They are fully occupied with Supreme Consciousness. Fully aware of Supreme Consciousness. Every movement of every atom, they feel. They are fully occupied, fully aware. Datta tradition is of that aspect of being fully aware, fully conscious but at the same time fully responsible, fully here. They are active like for example Sai Baba. He is available for everybody 24/7. Likewise, all avatars of Lord Dattatreya have been super powerful. Extraordinarily powerful, but very humble, very quiet, very insignificant. On one side, Datta is displaying total insignificance like normal existence, but on the other side He is extraordinary. He has got extraordinary powers. Datta tradition has a lot of significance in the Hindu tradition, Hindu path, because of one thing: you can have anything from this world but actually you need nothing. You can have positions, possessions, whatever you can get from this world, but that may not give you satisfaction, contentment. But even with having nothing, if you are totally content with what you have inside, you will be very peaceful. You can sleep peacefully. It’s not about the material wealth, or what you collect from the earth but what you are. That makes a difference in life. Datta tradition is very powerful as a reminder, a reminder of who you could be. That means – fully conscious of the whole Universe, at the same time you can have anything from earth because you are so powerful, you can acquire anything from the earth but you are not bound by anything.


Q: In one of your writings, you described the creation of Somaskandamoorthy in Switzerland as being crafted by Dakshinamoorthy out of silence. I would very much like to know more about Dakshinamoorthy, would you like to talk about it?

M: Dakshinamoorthy is the depiction of a state of Shiva as Guru. As I said earlier, the highest you achieve by deepest silence. The highest you gain through deep silence. Dakshinamoorthy is symbolic of being silent and being complete. In silence, everything is contained. Words have limitations, but silence has no limitations, no boundaries. Dakshinamoorthy is an incarnation or a depiction where you can see so many saints, they are connected to him and they are all silent and through silence they attain the highest. What is the highest? Consciousness of the Universe – where what is manifested and unmanifested, are together. Manifested universe is very small compared to the unmanifested universe. Manifestation has a duration. Unmanifestation has no duration. This is the main thing. The awareness of the unmanifested format and the manifested format together makes you complete. That is Dakshinamoorthy. Total awareness. This is also one aspect of Shiva. Shiva is fully conscious as well as fully operational. That means you are not just existing as immobile or a still form of  matter; you are also existing as invisible, active, the one who transfers knowledge, who guides etc.. Dakshinamoorthy is that aspect where He is the constantly-delivering aspect of Shiva, that is that depiction. Shiva comes in that form for that purpose. Shiva linga means it’s something which you can’t define. That is why all our atomic reservoirs are in the form of Shiva linga. That is the form which can contain the maximum of energy. No other form was a suitable form. Shiva linga is a depiction of the supreme consciousness which cannot be defined, which can’t be put in frames. In which knowledge aspect was that through silence you achieve the highest. For getting silence, which is basically lack of thoughts, it means no thoughts, that means lack of desires. That means lack of memories. If you backward integrate, connecting to the Dakshinamoorthy, you lose all the memories. Not memory loss. I mean you don’t have storage. Experience happens, corresponding memory does not get stored.

(Mohanji is explaining something to someone from the audience): Memory is connected to emotions of experience. An experience happens, but if you have a memory that means you have an emotion connected to that experience. So that emotion is not there, that is why it does not get stored. Information may or may not be there. For example if I ask you what you ate for breakfast two days ago, if you are always eating the same thing, you will tell me. Otherwise you may not even know. Because it would have been processed already. For an experience to get stored, it needs a glue called emotion. That is why I said thought plus emotion becomes karma, emotion is the glue. So, memory to happen, it needs emotion. So usually, we remember the emotion, not exactly the event, isn’t it? Events happen, they come and go, but we remember the emotion attached to that.

Thank you very much. Thanks once again to all the people who wished me today from all over the world. I may not be able to tell all of you that I love you individually but you know that. I love you and I am with you. And I really, really appreciate that you spent time and you wished me. I also really appreciate that you translated your connection to me as good service in the world, which I really like. Thanks to all of you for coming together here, taking time and being here. I really appreciate it. I love you.


Transcribed by Nada Rakovic
Proofread by Geeta Iyer

Be Consistent with Sadhana

Whenever we are going and growing towards the realms of subtlety, subtlety is something which is less and less tangible: the gross, the habitual gross, keep pulling us out. The gross means our habits, the materials we are used to, the places that we are used to, the people we are used to, all the positions, possessions and commitments of life, and all the attachments of life. They keep bothering us and pulling us back to them, while we are trying to detach and move towards the subtler and subtler aspects of us. The subtlest aspect of us is our soul.

When you demonstrate your devotion or your practice in the world, a lot of opinions will come your way. It can be positive opinions or negative opinions. Sometimes there are apprehensions, sometimes prejudices, sometimes the fears that people keep in their minds about things like spirituality. Sometimes it’s not considered as a positive thing, but we know very well that we have gone through all these emotions, all these things of life, and now we need absolute peace, or permanence in peace and that’s exactly why we are following spirituality. The benchmark, as I have already explained, is the silence inside. Whatever happens outside, you are always stable and still.

When I was practicing seriously, I was working as the country head of a multinational company, a very, very busy job. So I was finding my own time, my personal time, the time to connect to myself, between 3 am and 8 am. Even if I slept at 12 o’clock, after some party or some get-together, I would still wake up at 2:30 am. I used to have very short hair, and I used to take a bath, without taking a bath I never used to do anything. I’d take a full head bath, wipe myself clean, and then I’d just light a lamp. There was nothing else in the room except a lamp, a flame, and that flame was the only companion for my connection. I used to dissolve into that field of energy, into myself, and that was my practice.

Nobody knew I was practising, because in public life, in the real-time world, I was not practising anything. I was not visiting any temples, I was not visiting any Gurus, I wasn’t doing anything. But I was very happy with myself, I was practising with myself, and dimensions started shifting because of consistency. Whatever happened, I was always practising. This is one aspect I can tell you, you must have your time, the time with yourself, and as I explained, it’s all about you. The path is you, the destination is you, the journey is you, everything is you. Always remember, it’s about you. Connect to yourself as much as possible.


The time of the day which is quite suitable for this is between 3 am and 8 am, as far as I have experienced. You may have a different time, but that’s up to you, that’s an individually suitable time. I don’t want to say this is the only time possible; whichever time is good for you, that’s fine. But understand one thing – during that time between 3 and 8 am, usually the outside world is sleeping, it is silent with very little sounds outside. And inside, to get into silence, it’s much easier. There are no sounds, not too many vehicles and traffic sounds of various nature. Even the birds, animals, every being will be sleeping, more or less, and they all wake up after 5 am. By that time, you have already almost completed your connection with yourself, and you can conveniently come out of it at any point in time. But up to 8 am actually, in my experience, I hardly used to get any calls, nobody used to bother me. This is one. Secondly, the great Masters have given us various techniques and methods to connect to oneself, because we are a Universe.

The whole point, or the whole message of TAT TVAM ASI is – You are That, whatever you are looking for is – you, and this can be found through self-exploration and connecting to oneself. There is a method which is very popular – connecting to your heartbeat. When you connect to your heartbeat, there is a sound and a silence… a sound… and a silence. You are connecting to the sound and the silence, you are observing that sound and the silence. Then slowly, slowly, over time, you go between that sound and the silence. That means there is a sound… and the sound stops and the silence starts… and the silence stops and the sound starts. We try to feel that deeper and deeper, and as we go deeper and deeper into that space between the sound and the silence, we will start exploring higher levels of subtlety, the sukshma state.

Another method which the great Masters have gracefully given us is the space between the inhalation and exhalation – that idea, that thought of breathing in and breathing out. There is a small gap between the breathing in and breathing out, that is supposed to be the space of Heaven, that is what people say. That space is very momentary, but if you are aware of that space consistently, the space between your inhalation and exhalation, you will start experiencing various layers and layers of silence. You will start feeling that silence, a silence, a state where everything stops: the breath stops at some point, and then the breath starts. So between this stop and start, there is a space, and that space is a very pleasurable space, it’s very, very blissful. These are all methods you can practise.


I was particularly practising connecting to my spine. I feel the spine, I sit, and I feel the spine. When I’m walking, I feel the spine. When I’m sitting and talking sometimes, I spontaneously feel the spine. Any part of the spine, as per your orientation, you feel it, and spontaneously, you will start experiencing a vertical existence. Usually, we experience a horizontal experience as per the flow of karma. But here, when you are concentrating on the spine, you start experiencing a vertical existence, and that is a very beautiful state. When you are in that state, the past, present, and the future do not have much value, there is only the present.

The oscillation of the mind to the past or the future, the dwelling of the mind over matters of the past and the future will all reduce, it’ll all come to the present existence, present awareness. Awareness is bodh, and when you continuously connect to your spine for a long period of time, the bodh, the awareness, will start growing and flowing from you. You will become aware of everything around you, everything beyond you, and dimensions can shift rapidly. I do not want to tell you that this much time you have to do it etc, that’s all individual. Please understand spirituality is an individual journey, everything is individualistic. The more time you can spend with yourself without distractions, that much progress you can expect. So these are all guidelines I would like to give youngsters who are probably in a hostel with other people, etc. You don’t have to demonstrate any of this. Spend some time with yourself, be normal, be involved with all the work, whatever you have to do, you can do.

I was actually very busy when I was practising, I was heading the country and it was a very big job. Big job in a sense, it was a very active and a very stressful job. But at the same time, I never ever forsook my practise. Also, I was experiencing, just like now, I was not in one place long enough to have the comfort of one location. The comfort of one location is always an advantage. If you have a space for yourself to practice, that’s always an advantage, because the energy level of that place will complement your practise. But I didn’t have that luxury. Even now, I don’t have that luxury. I keep traveling. So you have to accept whichever way it happens.

Shirdi Sai Baba and Mohanji

Understand that your only exploration is yourself, and you are always with yourself, so you don’t have to really worry about the environment. If you really mean to succeed in reaching or becoming Shiva, the Supreme Consciousness, you have all the materials you need for that, because, by birth, you have it; nobody can take it away from you. If you are really keen on exploring yourself to the highest possibility, use any of the techniques. You can do what suits you spontaneously. We have bhakti yogis, who like to sing and chant, they are devotional people, they like devotion. There are jnana yogis who like to explore the truth of spirituality through knowledge. Then we have karma yogis who would like to live a selfless life. Through selflessness, they explore higher dimensions. Then we have raja yogis who are only established in awareness – bodh, and through bodh, through constant awareness, they reach the highest. There are so many different methods and practises which are suitable for everybody. And I feel that you will automatically reach there, once you decide to start walking. Nobody can stop you if you decide to walk. And nobody needs to give you any input. In my experience, whenever I needed guidance, somebody has given me guidance. I’ll give you an example.

I was practicing seriously like this for about four or five years. I was reaching a state of complete blankness, meaning I didn’t even know who I was, I didn’t even remember my name, my identity, etc. A completely blank state means I don’t exist. It’s almost like the deep sleep state in the night, where you are not aware you are sleeping, you are not aware of anything, you are totally lost, or completely gone. I was in that state, and I was the general manager of a company at that time, and I had to take care of the whole company and all the people. And at that point in time, I was experiencing these blank states. There were times let’s say,  from a few hours to a few days of the blank state. It was very difficult to work during those days. I may forget how to sign. I’d forget my signature. There were occasions when I would ask my financial controller to bring all the papers I had signed earlier. He did not know that I didn’t know how to sign because I couldn’t tell him that I was going through this state. I used to tell him, ”Bring me all the papers I’d signed earlier.” He would bring those papers, and I learned to sign. Then I signed the chequebooks and other things. After a while, he thought that I didn’t trust him, and he almost resigned. He said, “Sir, if you don’t trust me, I don’t want to work with you.” So I said, “Don’t worry, we’ll sort it out, actually I am just correlating something, etc…” In a way, I lied. I told him, “See, I want to check the past records,” and things like that.

Anyway,  one day I was so frustrated. I decided I can’t work like this, I had to leave. I almost sat down and wrote my resignation letter. In those days there was no WhatsApp, Facebook or all those things, this was in the early 2000s. There was Messenger. I hardly used Messenger because, I didn’t like to use it. When you open it, a lot of people will come to chat with you. It’s so annoying when you are busy, somebody is asking you things, with which you don’t really want to engage into. I was sitting there. I was fully confused, in fact, I was very frustrated. I was almost writing my resignation. Suddenly the Messenger opens up. I used to practise yoga with a teacher, almost six years before, and that yoga teacher and I had no connections afterward. I lost his number, he lost my number, and I even moved to another country, so we had no connection. But he came on chat. He said, “Mohanji, are you there?” I said, “Yes, I am here. Oh, it’s a real surprise! How come you found me here?” Then he said, “I was meditating in the morning, and my Guru came and told me to tell you that these blank states will end that month, it will be over, and you will not have to experience them again.”


First of all, this man and I had no connection for almost six years. Secondly, he had no way of knowing that I was going through this situation because I never ever told anybody. I was alone – I didn’t have a relationship, I had no girlfriend or wife, I was completely alone in those days, at that time. Nobody used to communicate with me on spiritual terms, on spiritual grounds. I was only involved with my job, my work, and then I used to withdraw to my house. So no way he would know. And I did not know his Master. Then I asked him, “Who is your Master?“  He said the Master had left the body a long time ago, at the age of 90. I was surprised and asked, ”How did you know?” Then he said, “Mohanji, I don’t know about any of these things, my job was to convey the message to you, that this is probably the answer you have been looking for, and I have conveyed it.” I was surprised, totally surprised, this was the accurate answer. Then I said, “Sir, can I have your phone number?” When I called him, he said, “I don’t know anything more, I have told you whatever I know.” So I said, “Okay.” Then in fact, I copy-pasted that message and saved it, because, in the future, even I may doubt whether it happened. I always tell people, “All your positive experiences you should write down and keep it with you.” Because when negativity attacks you, this is your only oxygen, escape way. As a reminder, these will come in handy. When negativity hits you – negativity hits in the most vulnerable time, in the most vulnerable way – if you have the bank balance of your positive experiences written down, you can definitely go through it and get out of it with this antidote. It is very difficult, because negativity sucks you out.

So I spoke to him and that was it, there was nothing more he knew. He also told me one thing: his Master appeared to him about a week or ten days before he spoke to me, and told him the same thing, to convey this message to me. He was searching for my number and my contact and he didn’t have it, then he dropped it. On the day when he contacted me, the Master appeared again, and apparently scolded him. He’d said, “What sort of a disciple are you? I told you something, you are not even doing that, and how come you call yourself my disciple? I am ashamed of you!” Then he found out my email ID, and he tried the email ID, found the Messenger, and that’s how he reached me.

The point I am saying is that when you really want an answer, one way or the other the answer will find you. That we must trust. This has been my experience, the couple of experiences I had are of this completely uncanny nature. Why I am explaining this is because you should not be frustrated about the presence of people, the absence of people, the appreciations or the distractions of life. It is not important. You decide to go deeper and deeper into the subtle levels, but at the same time, do not leave your dharma, do not run away, do not be an escapist. Don’t leave something deliberately because, if you leave something deliberately, that means you are postponing that thing. Whatever God has given you, whatever destiny has brought you, you must perform the dharmic side. When you are the child, you are responsible to take care of your parents, like parents take care of the children. So we have to do that dutifully, with reverence, with love. This has to be done. There is no escape. You cannot say, “Oh, now I am free, I am myself, and I don’t like to take care of my parents or children.” That’s not right. If you have a family, take care of the family. That’s part of the dharma, that dharma must be fulfilled. Every responsibility should be dutifully fulfilled; respectfully, with reverence, we should fulfill it. You can’t run away, I do not recommend any kind of escapism, because if you run away, you will have to come back and solve it later. That might be with interest – that means if it is only a hundred thousand now, it will become one million later. So might as well finish it as it comes – any promises or any part of dharma.


If you are living in a hostel, or you are living in an environment that is not conducive to practice, it doesn’t matter. This connection with yourself, you can always do. As I said, you can connect to your heartbeat, you can connect to your breath, you can connect to your spine, you can connect to your thought processes, you can connect to your interactions or simply, you can meditate all the time by just making sure that no words are uttered without your mind being present, and no actions are done without the mind being present. That means no absent-mindedness, ever. That itself is a sadhana, it’s a beautiful practice. If you practise like that, that itself will elevate you. So there is no excuse for not practising.

Now, if you are determined, fully determined to reach the highest level of subtlety, you should and you can reach there definitely, whoever you are. Even if you have a Guru, a path, a destination, or anything you defined, no problem, they will all come to you at the right time.

Another experience I’ll tell you in the same context.

I was working in the company, and one day I got an email from a woman whom I did not even know, her name was Linda. She wrote to me from California, and I had no connection with America at that time. This was the early 2000s and this also was well before the time of WhatsApp and Facebook. She contacted me and said, “Are you Mr. Mohan? An elevated Master wants to speak to you. Please call this number at this time.” I didn’t even reply, because there are so many fake mails, hoax mails coming your way. Even now it comes, that you won a lottery or you got an award and things like that, which I don’t pay attention to. I just discard them, I remove them as spam. And I did that, and again in a week’s time after that date, she sent another message. “I’m very serious, a Master is asking me to contact you, he wants to speak to you. He does not exist on Earth, he’s from another realm, but he wants to use me as a medium to talk to you.” I became curious: what is this Master talking about? Even if I lose some money for this experience, it’s okay. So I contacted her, and the first question I asked was, “What’s the price, what’s the cost?” Because everything is connected to money, so I asked how much I should pay. She said, “I never asked you for money. This is serious. This Master wants to speak to you. Please call on Sunday at 10 am” and a date was given, so I said, “I will call you.”

On Sunday, I prepared myself and called this number. She picked up the call, and she sounded very old. I asked her, “What’s your age?” She said, “I’m 82.” I said, “How did you reach me?” She said, “This Master gave me your contact email.” I asked her, “Do you know me?” She said, “No, I don’t know you, I don’t even know who you are, nor am I interested to know you.” So that was very clean and clear. Then she asked, “Do you have sufficient money in your phone if the conversation prolongs?” I said, “No problem, I pay every month.” She wanted to know whether it is prepaid so that the charge will not go after a while. So everything was set, and she said, “Are you ready?” I said, “Yes, I’m ready.”


Then she started speaking to me. Slowly, slowly her voice changed to a very deep male voice; a totally different voice from this feeble old woman voice to a very strong male voice. And that man, just to convince me, told me all the major incidents of my life, which nobody will know. Not just the death of my daughter, but various things connected to it, and also various details. That convinced me because nobody will know those details unless they are connected deeply. I think even my family do not know those details. So all those things were told and I was convinced that this is genuine. Then there was so much of guidance and so many things were going on, I don’t want to go into micro details. It was about a forty-five minutes call, and finally, he asked, “I’m done. Is there anything you want to ask me?” I said, “No. I’m happy that I could speak to you, and I realize that you are from a very high realm.” Then he said, “I am not from Earth, I’m from a different realm, where we guide people at random, as per the instructions from above.” So they also have a hierarchy. Then he asked me, “Is there anything you want from me?” I said, “I would like to continue to talk to Masters of your realm.” He said, “I’ll arrange that.” Then the call was disconnected. When I wrote to this lady once again, thanking her, she never replied.

So this is something which we must understand. All these connections are matter fact. There is no attachment, there is no emotion, there is no expectation in these relations. A true relationship with a Master will have no expectations, no conditions, no bindings, no boundaries. This is something that you should always remember when you are connecting to higher realms. Don’t think that everything is obligatory; it is not so. All they want to do is that they found fertile ground and they want to sow the seeds of Liberation there, that’s all. They have no other interest. They don’t expect any gratefulness, they don’t expect anything in return.

So this is exactly how the true spiritual world works, which was my practical experience. Later on, I met various Masters on the Earth realm also, and they were all the same: whether it is Vittal Babaji, Ganeshananda Giri Babaji, whether it is Vasudevan Swami of Vajreshwari, Devi Amma of Bangalore, Avadhoota Nadananda of Kurnool, Lamperi Babaji, Taradas Swami, and numerous Masters, even Swami Govindananda of Rishikesh, all those Masters – everbody was selfless. Whenever I discuss with any of those Masters, I feel free because there are no expectations connected to it. Such Masters will come your way when your eligibility increases.


As I said earlier, eligibility is inner silence. How much deeper into yourself you have gone, that much silent you have become. The thoughts per second reduce. If your mind is not oscillating to the past or the future, if you are not dwelling on guilt, or regrets, and those kinds of things connected to the past, or anxieties of the future, you will be more or less stable in the present. And do your best in the present. Also understand – in the karmic law, it’s not the same do’s and don’ts of the human law. Human law’s do’s and don’ts are connected to the security aspect. The security aspect is connected to survival instinct, it’s a by-product of the survival instinct. Human laws are the by-products of the survival instinct, which across the species is the same. When you look at everything through the human law, you may not understand the karmic law.

In karmic law, the fundamental truth is fulfilment. Karma is connected to pending desires, something which you need fulfilment for, and the natural culmination is fulfilment. The higher culmination is that you don’t need fulfilment, because you’re beyond it. Even though that feeling was there, you are not worried about it, you are not bound by the fulfillment aspect so that you overcome it and then you don’t need it. So we must understand the karmic law clearly. As you grow higher, many of the things which the Saints do, you may be very surprised, how come? In that context, we talk about Lord Krishna. He supposedly had 16,000 + wives… And people say He is the perfect Brahmachari. How is that possible? Krishna was fully Brahma, only occupied in Supreme Consciousness. Whatever activities he was doing on earth, he was definitely not attached to them. He was performing various roles on earth as per the demand of the time. Even as a small child, he was protecting himself. He killed his opponents,  those who came to kill him, he murdered. And he also killed his uncle. He did all those things which are probably necessary to preserve dharma. He said, “My only purpose for existence is the preservation of dharma.” And they will continue to do that, they will always perform as per the expected law of dharma.

So there, the boundaries are different. He was engaging with a lot of people in different capacities, at the same time he was fully occupied with Brahma – the Supreme Consciousness. When one is fully occupied with the Supreme Consciousness, he is a Brahmachari. That is something which we must understand. I’ll tell you a story connected to it.


A story

The Brijwasis were going to meet Krishna, and they found that Krishna was sitting on the other side of the River Yamuna. But the Yamuna was overflowing and no boatman wanted to cross the river, because it was dangerous to cross the river at that time. So they were all disappointed. They had made lots of sweets and things out of cow’s milk and ghee etc. They had made everything possible which Krishna loved. But they couldn’t cross to the other side because of the overflowing river. They were disappointed and they all sat down and found that there was a Master meditating under a tree, just a short distance away. They all went towards him, and sat in front of the tree, looking at the Master. When the Master opened his eyes, he saw the people sitting there. He said, “Oh, you’re waiting here. What are you waiting here for? What can I do for you?” They said, “We were going to see Krishna, but the river is overflowing. We can’t cross, so we are all sitting here. We don’t know what to do.” Then he asked them, “What do you have in your bags? What are you carrying?” They said, “These are all sweets which Krishna likes, so we’ve made them. We expected to bring it to his palace so that he can also relish them with his people.” Then he said, “Can I see? Open this.” So they opened and showed him, and he started eating. He ate almost half of it. He was apparently very hungry, and they were getting embarrassed. They were thinking, “Now what will we tell Krishna if we can cross the river, that what we brought for you, somebody else ate?” They were a little worried. He said, “Don’t worry, pack it, come.

That saint was sage Vyasa. Vyasa took them to the edge of the River Yamuna which was swollen and overflowing because of the floods, and he commanded to the river, “If I have not eaten (consumed) anything, let the river part.” They had seen in front of their eyes that he had eaten. He’d eaten almost half the basket and he was telling that he had not eaten anything. They didn’t understand, but the river parted and all these people crossed the river. Sage Vyasa stood where he was, everybody crossed the river and they went to the other side safely. Then the river again merged, and the floods continued. They were really surprised ”How come this had happened?” They’d seen that he was eating, and he was saying, “If I have not eaten, let the river part.”

While they were walking, they reached a garden, and when they looked into the garden, Krishna was lying there under a tree on a bench, sleeping peacefully. So they waited there. They were very happy that they could meet Krishna. When Krishna woke up in about fifteen minutes or half an hour, he looked at them saying, “Oh, you are all sitting here. When did you come?” They said, “Oh, we just came.” “How did you come? The river is flooding, how did you reach?” They said, “A sage did this, and we came here.”  He said, “Okay, what have you brought?” They were ashamed to say that half of it was already gone, but they opened the baskets and showed him one. “Oh, no, no, I can’t eat anything now, this same thing I ate about an hour ago, I can’t eat anything.” So, when Vyasa ate those things, he ate it without ownership. That means he surrendered to Lord Krishna and he ate, and Lord Krishna actually consumed. So even though it was going through the mouth of Vyasa, it was filling the belly of Krishna. This is something that we must understand clearly in the path of spirituality. The laws of karma are always related to the ownership of action. We lose ownership completely after a while. When you go deeper and deeper into levels of subtlety, there is no ownership possible. We can’t have ownership. We know very well we don’t own anything. We don’t own the sunrise or the sunset. We don’t own our waking or sleep state. We don’t own our birth or death. We don’t own our heartbeats, circulation, respiration, digestion, brain function, nothing. Then we understand, “Oh, this is a show, it’s going on.” Then our approach to the world will be totally different.


We will look at everybody, every being, as karmic beings. They have a duration, they have a reason, they have an expression,  particular character trait, all those things. We will look at everything as our own expression. That will make us very, very stable. All this is possible by developing awareness. To develop awareness, first and foremost, we have to connect with ourselves, look at ourselves, feel ourselves, breathe ourselves, sleep ourselves, everything ourselves. And then we realize that there is no ownership connected.

But let me tell you, do not do violence and say, “I didn’t do that.” That’s a different story. That’s when the mind is cheating, or the mind is trying to delude. That’s not the thing. When you genuinely do not have ownership, your actions also will be pure. The purity of action is connected to lack of ownership of action; no doership, no ownership. That will make your actions pure. And especially if you surrender your actions to the Higher, you will only do pure actions, essential actions based on ahimsa or non-violence. These are all signs of pure action. Pure actions are always non-violent actions. It’s not about what you eat, or where you sleep, or what you drink, or whether you are married, this is not the point, the point is that you are settled inside. Whatever actions you are engaged into, you’re fully settled inside, you’re fully peaceful. You’re just being an expression of the Consciousness, and you are aware of that. So you are always liberated.

This does not need much practice; it needs presence. Practice is often a means to reach this presence. If you’re aware of this, that awareness will bring you the presence and the awareness to the present. So these are the things which you can definitely work on, and it doesn’t matter which environment you are in, or who is with you. If you keep discussing with other people, they can delude you. I never used to talk to anybody, I used to keep my practise to myself. Even if it is the wrong practise, even if it is not so good, it’s fine, no problem. It’s our personal issue, personal matter.

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We don’t have to believe, or we don’t have to insist that whatever we do should be successful, because that gives stress, that gives ownership. So we try our best and we connect to ourselves, we start accepting and appreciating, and then we just exist. This is something which you can all practise, there is no problem. Also, always remember, whenever you practice something, the first and foremost is that you have an experience because of the practice. Even if you go to the gym, or you go for yoga, or any other activity, initially there will be experiences. After that, there will be stagnation. The same practice cannot give you the same experience – stagnation. At that point, many people go to different paths. They may go to a different Master, a different method, a different practice. They derail themselves. After that, if you still practise, after the stagnation state is the vacuum state. The vacuum state is that  from the collected (collective sankalpas) memories, feelings and notions, you are detaching to a level of complete silence. So that transition time is a bigger time. Through practice, through your consistent practice, you may transcend into a state of vacuum. Vacuum is the ‘in between’ state, and that is a very delusional state. Sometimes, we may feel that we have lost everything, or we are stupid, or we don’t know what we’re doing, all sorts of things can happen to us. And we sometimes criticise the Master, criticise ourselves, criticise the path, criticise the practice. This is all possible at that time. After that the bliss state comes. If you cross over these three states, then it’s bliss state. That’s a permanent state, you can just be there, and that’s it.

So this is something you should always remember – initially there will be experiences, then there’ll be stagnation, then they’ll be vacuum, and then bliss. Always remember, initial experience will not probably stay long. It may come, it may go, but you need to continue. You need to have conviction, consistency; stick to one path, stick to one Guru, stick to one practice, and then you will reach the highest. This is for sure. When we keep shifting, we reach nowhere. The mind takes you for a ride, all over. This is very important to understand, and if you put yourself, surrender yourself to the practice, glory will be there.



Transcribed by Nada Rakovic
Proofread by Shyama Jeyaseelan