Accept yourself – Trust yourself

Welcome to Mohanji Speaks.

My friends, we have spoken about so many things in the past few days. Today, I would like to speak to you about a real-life incident that happened in my life, about 15 years ago; I was not known as Mohanji at that time.

I met one guy, a very, very successful businessman, and also a model. He has also acted in films. Very handsome, very successful, has his own yacht, various cars, and so many things. I met him at a party, and he somehow liked me and he said, “Can I speak to you?”

So we fixed a time, and then he picked me up from my office. He drove the car, and I was sitting in the car, a very, very expensive car. We went to the seaside and we sat in an isolated cafe. I ordered a juice; he ordered some drink, and we were sitting just looking at the sunset. I didn’t bring up any conversation, as usual, I kept quiet; most of the time I don’t talk. So, I kept quiet. And he asked me, out of the blue without any introduction, “You’re a chronic introvert, aren’t you?” I said, “Yes!” “Me too, I can’t speak to people.  I don’t know how to interact with people. Whatever I am showing in this world outside, is just to camouflage my helplessness; I am always helpless. What I liked in you is, you have tremendous strength in your eyes. When I looked at your eyes, I felt a lot of strength. Somewhere, is a will of steel or something like that; but you looked very vulnerable in this whole party. I didn’t come and talk to you easily; then I kept looking at you and I realized that I must talk to you. So that’s how I came to you.”

Then he started telling me his story. A broken family, sexual abuse in childhood; he couldn’t speak to anybody. He had wealth, his parents had wealth, but most of the wealth was stolen by his own uncles. He was humiliated in school, bullied in school; his girlfriend, first girlfriend, he had a girlfriend at the age of 15, and she cheated on him, cheated in the sense, she just went away without telling him. Like that. He had a series of troubles and problems to say, and he started crying.

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Luckily, we were the only two people in that small cafeteria; and nobody was looking at us, so it was easier. And he said, “You know what, I didn’t have anybody to talk to. I went to a few counselors. I tried to talk to some religious people, and they only gave me some kind of solutions like, you do this offering in this church, go to this place or that place. But nothing worked. Basically, I’m still crying inside. Many times, I thought of committing suicide. To the outside world, I’m very rich; I have a lot of wealth. I have organizations, people are working for me, but I’m so insecure; I don’t know how I live another day.” Then he said, “You know what, whenever I look at myself; I see ugliness. I do not feel that I’m worth it; I have a very, very big problem with my self-esteem. I have complexes; I’m hiding all of that with my money, and with certain things which will camouflage me from all this.

But I’m really afraid of the world. I’m really afraid of the people; I fear that they will hurt me. I have relationships, but I’m afraid of women. I feel they will betray me; I can’t trust anybody. I don’t know who to trust. I don’t know who to believe, to be with. I have a big ocean of friends, as you saw, but they are not my friends. They are just like acquaintances. And I don’t feel anything for anybody; I am pretty lonely.  I did marry twice; it didn’t work, I left it. I do have friends and girls; I do have relationships; I do have sexuality, but I don’t trust myself. I don’t trust anybody; I don’t trust my wealth; I don’t trust any of the things I have, my companies, nothing! I have literally picked up myself from a disaster situation where my uncles were taking away our wealth when my parents died. And I built up everything from ashes, but I did build up. But I don’t feel proud, I don’t feel anything.”

It was an utter sorry state. How to respond? How to react? How to make him accept himself, which was a big question mark. He has already been to the most expensive consultants of the world; mood changers, game-changers, motivational people; he’s been everywhere. And he couldn’t really get anything out of it.

He said, “I had various experiences with various people, I paid immense money for that. It was only for some time; there was no transformation inside.” Then I asked him, “How do you think I can make a difference? I’m a chronic introvert. I’m not a motivational speaker; I’ve never motivated people that way. I lead a life of purity and honesty as much as possible. I have my vulnerabilities. I’m also afraid of the crowd because the crowd has hurt me; people have betrayed me just like you said. How do you think I can help you?”

Then he said, “One thing we have in common; you are an introvert, I am an introvert, so we can understand each other. I don’t need a solution right now. I’m not asking you for a solution, but I’m just asking you for some clarity.”

So, I said, “The clarity is you. That’s it!” He said, “That’s it?”” Yes, that’s it. It’s you. Whatever you think you are, that’s exactly what you’re experiencing.” “So, how do I make a difference?” I said, “Through acceptance. The past has to be put in its place, buried if possible.”  Then he asked, “How do I trust people?” “I said, “Trust yourself, that’s only the only person you need to trust. Outside people are outside people, you have them and you do not have them. It’s basically you. When you are awake, you have them. When you’re not awake, when you’re sleeping, you don’t have them. So there is only one person you need to trust, it is you.”

He asked me, “Is it that simple?”  I said, “I think so.” He asked me, “How do you handle your life?” I said, “I don’t want to bring my story to you now, because you’ve been telling your story, which was quite intense, so why should I tell you mine?” He said, “No, no tell, I want to hear!”

So, I told a bit about ‘the tragedies’ I experienced in my life: neglected childhood kind of thing, a bit of feeling unwanted, then difficult to position as an introverted person in the society; and then being forcefully extroverted with activities just to prove to myself;  and of course, finding some success there as well.  Then lack of direction, lack of goals, lack of vision, a kind of abandoned state in youth. Then jobs, some success, a lot of hard work, working hours and hours, self-destructive levels of working, and finally, finding some success in work – recognition. Betrayals in work, competition, jealousy, those kinds of things. Then a marriage that didn’t work, loss of a child, loss of property, loss of wealth, loss of job, and physical ailments. Then trusting people; they betraying, stabbing from behind. Giving everything to people to make them happy; because I believed that it’s my responsibility to make everybody happy who loves me, and they took it for granted. Some people literally betrayed using the trust that I had in them. All these things, it’s been a strange life.

I said, “I have always been alone. I walked alone. And whenever I felt people were trying to own me, I ran away.”

He said, “Yes, I did the same. I’m afraid of people owning me. This is what I wanted to talk to you. I don’t like people owning me.”

I said, “Because nobody can own us. It’s not a problem; it’s not a fault. You cannot own anybody nor can anybody own us.”

“Yes! Yes! Yes! That makes sense to me!”

I said, “Yes, that’s the truth.” Then he said, “What else?”

I said, “It’s you. It’s you and you and you! I don’t exist for you.”

He looked into my eyes, “What do you mean?”

I said, “You’re seeing me now. After four or five hours, where am I? Where are you? You don’t even know where I’m living, do you? We have no guarantee we will meet again. Do you think so? Do you believe it?”

He said, “Yes, yes, there is a possibility we may not meet again.”

And I said, “That’s a reality. What is my value in your life right now? I’m just pointing one finger to you. I am telling you to look at yourself. You are beautiful. Trust yourself. You can only trust yourself. Don’t betray yourself. You cannot trust the world. The world has its highs and lows, ups, and downs. The world has its moods, its ethics, its character, consciousness, and levels of acceptance. Nothing can be guaranteed from this world. But we saw all our insecurities; all of our complexes, all our fears. We have seen them, we experienced them, and we are experiencing them, even now. Look into my eyes closely, what do you see?”

He said, “My own reflection.” I said, “That’s the only truth. You are alive, you exist. That’s all you need to know. Now let’s go. Let’s part.” By that time, it was about 7 pm. He said, “I’ll drop you.” I said, “Yes, just drop me at the bus stop, I’ll catch a bus.” He drove me to the bus stop. While traveling he said, “I want to give you something. I asked him, “What?” “A cheque!” he said. I asked, “For what?” “For giving me time, and I feel good; I’m sure I will change. Thank you for your time.” And then he wanted to give me a blank cheque. He said you can write your amount. It doesn’t matter. I said, “Thank you. I don’t need your cheque; thank you for the drink, thank you for the time we are together. When you want, you come; but don’t come, I would say, you find yourself if you can.”

Then he told me, “One day I will come to you; that time, you will own me. “I laughed and I said, “I can’t own anybody. Not even myself.” He said, “No! One day, I will come to be with you, to work with you. I know you will become famous; I can see that in your eyes. I have this acumen for knowing people because I do business. I know you will become very rich, very powerful one day. You will be famous. I’ll be with you at that time.” I said, ”Thank you.”  And we parted.

I hope you enjoyed this story. Think about it. This is our life too. All the best.

 

Transcribed by Ulla Bernholdt

Proofread by Padmini Ravikumar & Shyama Jeyaseelan

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Why do we fail to help others?

Hello friends! This is Mohanji.

Today, I would like to answer a question from a young man. “How do you make other people successful when you have lots of things to do?”

Well, it’s a beautiful question. I liked it. It is because making other people successful – that’s a very big thought. To be honest with you, I never thought of it that way. I did not think I am making other people successful. I made this platform called Mohanji and so many people are finding fulfillment with this and I would like to attribute it to the Tradition. I always attribute everything to the Tradition. I do not take any ownership.

Having said that, where do we start? It’s a big question, right? We have to start somewhere. We have to help ourselves. We have to be stable to hold the hands of another person; who’s probably looking for help or maybe he may have not explored himself, in any way. We can guide a person to himself or we can give guidance to those who need guidance; all these are possible. Anyway, everything is fine.

I was looking at how did I help myself? So, I went back to my own life; my childhood, my youth, my working time – working in a company, at these times, what was l doing? I was helping myself. I was basically helping myself and in the bargain, I might have helped others. But what are we doing actually in life? This question we should always ask. It’s a very important question. I was looking at this whole perspective in a very logical way; not spiritually but just logically. The building-up stage, I have received a lot of assistance; we all have – from our parents, from the teachers, from everybody.

So many factors have built us up. This being which we call ‘us’ today have a lot of background. There has been a lot of support from many people. First of all, starting from your mother because a mother has always nine months more relationship with you than anybody else in the society; you stayed in her stomach for nine months before you came out into the society. So, a mother has a deeper connection. Starting from a mother, step by step, stage by stage, we have received a lot of help from the people, from society, from the environment, from nature.

All our aspirations, all our feelings, all our emotions have something to do with something. It’s not just stand-alone. So, if you look at this large canvas of who helped us, we will have to say so many things; uncountable, you don’t know even how to count. It’s been so many. And it will give you a lot of wonders. My God! All these years we have walked on Earth but we never acknowledged anybody, any being. We took almost everything for granted. We never appreciated deeply. Are we right? Probably we have appreciated partially, selectively; that’s all fine. But have we really understood and appreciated? That makes a difference here. We complain, “Oh, this is not right, that is not right. People are not okay. They’re not giving me enough” etc. But have we started appreciating everything that has happened to us.

Everything has contributed; what you are today is a total of all these contributions and experiences; good experiences, bad experiences, everything together. We have understood life. We have understood people in whichever capacity because of all these experiences. Isn’t this wonderful? It’s really wonderful. Then, you reach a level of maturity where you start giving what you have to others; your experience, your time, your love, your money, what you have in abundance. Whatever you have in abundance, you would like to share because you realize that this makes you happier. This is happiness. This makes you happier, this makes you more purposeful. This is life. At that point in time, we don’t look back, we go ahead. Okay, this is what it is.

Likewise, we are born into a family. But do we have a family? Do we really have a family? This question should be asked. Why did we not have a family? It is because we never accepted ourselves in the first place. So, we have to help ourselves. Only when we help ourselves, we can help the world. Only when we accept ourselves, we can accept others. So, it is all about us; how we handle ourselves. If we handle ourselves with anger, disappointment, insecurity, so many factors which pulls us down, then we will handle the world the same way. The world is just a reflection; it’s like a mirror. What you see outside will be this. When we blame somebody else, understand we are actually blaming ourselves. Because we can’t blame ourselves and get away with it, we blame other people and in that bargain, you spoil a relationship. We compare, why do we compare? Those who compare are heavily insecure. Those who are really secure, those who are very happy, very contented with oneself will never compare. There’s nothing to compare. You appreciate another person, not compare.

 

So, when we compete, it’s the same thing. We have some deficiency. We feel that we are not up there. So we try to compete with another; to beat that person in a certain game, in certain aspects of life. And then we feel good. But look at this whole thing. Are we really happy with all this? Never! We are never contented. We become contented only when we become helpful in the world. That gives us perpetual peace. That gives us contentment. That’s very important to remember. So, when we try to help others, when we decide, “I would like to help the world spontaneously”, automatically, we’re helping ourselves and we are stabilizing ourselves. We are being stable; we are being purposeful. So, helping others is spontaneous when you are already stable. You can see that in the world.

Most of the people who are at a great level of awareness, they are always available to the world. They don’t sit at home and have personal enjoyments. Those who are insecure and sometimes those who have not accepted themselves, those who have not helped themselves, or those who have not really groomed themselves, beyond the competitions and comparisons, they have to do that first. They are not available to the world because they are leading a selfish life. They do not agree with people, they do not accept people, they do not really love people. But they expect love. Can you get love when you don’t give love? You can’t. You get only what you give. This is the way the world is made. So we have to understand, we have to look within and we have to find ourselves. And that platform which I think I have provided, that is my biggest contribution; a platform where you can find yourself and you can express yourself freely. It’s not behind somebody, ahead of somebody, it’s together with everybody.

So this is something which I would like to give you as food for thought. Why do we fail to help others? Try to find the answer. Go within, look within, contemplate. And see what makes you not help others, or what makes you compare with others. What makes you compete with others? Understand that this is all sitting within us. You don’t have to do any of this. We are unique. We have all the power, all the facilities that existence can ever provide. And we are unique, absolutely unique. This is the thought I would like to leave you with until I see you next time. Ponder over it, discuss among yourselves. Try to build something out of it. Try to build a structure out of it. All the things I’m giving you are to improve yourself and your standards of living. I would like to leave you with this. Wish you a great day and time and I’m always with you.

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Use Human Zoo to Reconnect

March 22^nd, 2020

 

Hello friends.

This is Mohanji.

We’ve been talking about the coronavirus and its effects for some days now and we are feeling it, every moment. We have seen that the human kingdom is affected; the human world is affected deeply. We are all in confinement. We are actually feeling now how the animals feel to be in the zoo in confinement, their whole life. We are now getting a taste of it, how it feels to be inside a factory farm, how it feels to be inside a zoo. And this confinement is teaching us great lessons where we feel how important our freedom is. All the beings (of non-human species) who are free are rejoicing and when all the human beings are confined to their rooms, we can see that the other kingdoms – animal kingdom and bird kingdom are rejoicing; they are roaming free, they are happy, there is less pollution, there is less radiation, there is less sound.

So, you see the difference we have made in the world now, the difference that we have actually been making in this world. We have not only confined animals to farms and zoos, we have literally starved them, tortured them, mutilated them and injected them with so many chemicals, did scientific experiments on their bodies, and killed them. We even stole the babies from their mothers. You know, mother and baby have a very sacred relationship, whichever species it is. A baby and its mother’s relationship are always highly sacred, but we have been insensitive. We stole babies of cows in factory farms and isolated them. We are doing so many things for the sake of our pleasure; for the sake of the milk of the mother, we separate the mother and baby. It’s a very bad thing. It’s a very sad thing.

Now, nature has kept us all indoors and made us feel what we are doing in this world. And this is a good time for introspection. This is a good time for contemplation. This is a good time. So, we now understand what sort of anguish and anxiety we have created in the animal kingdom. Especially perversions like trophy hunting, hunting for the pleasure of mind. Hunting means killing somebody, killing an animal who never wanted to die; a peacefully settled animal, just being killed for the sake of pleasure. Animal kingdom never does that. In the animal kingdom, a lion only kills when he’s hungry. Otherwise, he does not kill any being, but we do; human beings do.

Awareness and Unity

So, this confinement is giving us a lot of awareness or it should give us that awareness and refinement. Now, all the major places of visit are closed: temples are closed, mosques are closed, and churches are closed. Places of pilgrimages are closed, malls are closed, cinemas are closed, airports are partially closed. The transportation industry is severely affected, tourism is affected. There are no cruise ships going around. There is no major tourism happening at all. And people are asked to sit at home in each country. So, almost 7.5 billion people are sitting at home.

We have family unity now; we are all together. This is beautiful. I mean, we have perhaps never spent so much time with each other for a long time, even as a family. But now we are meeting each other as family. This is beautiful. So we must make the best use of this time, we must recreate the bonding, recreate the love, connection, recreate togetherness; this is a good time for that. And this is also one of the reasons why we have been put together: to reconnect, to re-establish love, companionship, togetherness, to look at each other. So this is a good time for that.

This also gives us enough time to reconsider our habits, our addictions, our relations, our needs, and greed. It’s a good time. I would leave you to think about this, this aspect and we’ll talk later, soon.

Lots of love.

 

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Skanda Vale Satsang – Part 2

In summer 2018, Mohanji visited Skanda Vale ashram in the UK. On 17th August, he did Prana Pratishta to the first idol of Lord Dattatreya in Europe (download discourse – mp3 ) and to Nagaraja murti as well.(download discourse – mp3 ).

Here is part 2 of the satsang he conducted afterwards.

Q: Can you please explain what is Prakriti and Maya?

Mohanji: The two aspects which the scriptures talk about are Purusha and Prakriti, rough translation is Shiva and Shakti. Purusha is Shiva. His expression is all over. And for him to express he needs Shakti, that is Prakriti. Maya is relative truth. Maya is truth, but it has a relative duration. And Karma’s expressionis Maya. Karma is also relative. Everything is changing. Like when you are 5 years old, when you are 10 years old, 15, 20, … your understanding or your experience changes. Same material would have given you different experiences. Maya works in that way. It’s always relative. Absolute Truth is Matha or Mother; absolute truth. Shakti is the activity aspect of Shiva, and Shiva by nature is full and complete. They say that whole created universe is just like a pimple on Shiva’s space. Shiva is much larger than the pimple (Laughter). So Shakti is needed for Shiva, that’s Prakriti; it is Shakti. Prakriti is the creation, created out of pure consciousness which is Shiva.

I asked the question to somebody recently why Shiva got angry when Shakti/Sathi died? Shiva should not get angry, right? Will Pure consciousness get angry? Pure consciousness cannot accept that Shakti does not exist. That means there’s no creation. The Tandava, the expression, happened in a violent mode, because Shakti was dissolving into Shiva. When Shakti dissolves into Shiva, what happens? Pure Consciousness, no creation. So, Shiva shook up and he fragmented the whole thing again. With a lot of difficulty at one time he created the atom. Now again, that atom dissolving back to pure consciousness, then no creation. So, he expressed himself. It’s not anger; it’s like intensity. Sometime intensity will be considered as anger.

Speaker: Mohanji, I wanted to ask why we’re all separate, why we feel we are separate from God. The idea is that you come to know God, that’s the purpose of life. Why God is one and total and undone, why separate?

Mohanji: That’s only in the mind. See, when you’re in deep sleep, you have no separation, you’re fully in bliss, because you don’t know your time, your space your properties. But when you wake up, you have this mind factor or the mind matter; when I say mind matter, it contains mind, ego, intellect, which keeps the form that reinforces your identifications and all those kinds of stuff. So, you have an opportunity here that you can go, always see beyond the usual and connect to the absolute truth; that option you always have. But what happens is that mind never allows it so easily. Mind is only a reflector. Mind has no flavours. What flavour it is given, that flavour it will reflect. Mind is maintained by thoughts, the thoughts are the pillars which maintain the mind. This mind is constantly reflecting mostly programmed stuff, programmed with a program you’re used to: habitual feelings, emotions, and patterns. That’s what mind reflects. And when mind keeps reflecting it, you completely get diluted from the truth. That you are the consciousness which the whole universe is connected to. And you are the whole universe. Aham Brahmasmi is missed, right?

That’s why in the Upanishad, the child asks the father, ‘You keep telling I am divine, I don’t feel like I’m divine. Why you keep telling me that?’

The father said, ‘bring some fire’. So, the child brought a lamp lit.

Then father said, ‘I told you, bring some fire. Why have you brought a lamp?’.

The child then went and brought a charcoal with fire on it.

He said, ‘I told you to bring me fire, not charcoal’. To which the child replied, ‘Father, I can’t bring you fire without a medium’.

To which, the father said, “Divinity cannot express without a medium, and that’s what you are.”

So if that understanding is constant, then the Maya will dilute. Maya cannot exist. Because you will only see your reflections everywhere. When you’re when you’re seeing anger in people, understand the anger sits in you. What you are, you see its reflection in everything. Like if you are extremely sick and you are looking at a beautiful sunshine, you will feel nothing. Because you’re not well; it’s not connected to the sunshine. But because how we are gets reflected back to us, or we experience it that way. That’s the truth. This is how it always works.

Three stages every day are given for you to connect to these. One is the waking state. The second is dream state, where your dimensions are different.  Your dreams are coming directly out of your subconscious. This data sits in your subconscious. And in the third deep sleep state, you have no idea who you are – death state. And then you wake up again. Birth state; rebirth in the morning. That’s why some people are lazy to get up. Because we are taking a new birth, it takes time to walk. Immediately you will not walk right; takes time. (Laughter) Don’t take me seriously. (Laughter).

Speaker: Mohanji, can you talk about, I don’t quite understand yet clearly enough for myself, about the mind, the concept of the mind or the definition of the mind? Or why do we have the mind to create the problem? And in relation to the consciousness.

Mohanji: Mind is like an organ. Let’s look at it… ask the question again.

Speaker: I asked about the mind and to define it more in detail. Mind in relation to the consciousness.

Mohanji: You look at mind as an organ. And what is its purpose? Experience. Experience is the purpose. And mind with your eyes you see, mind with your ears you hear. Otherwise sound will be there but you may not hear. Many times, when people talk, you won’t hear, right? Because mind is not with the ears. Mind with your nose, makes you smell. Mind with your skin makes you feel, with your tongue it makes you taste. And like that… Mind’s job is to experience existence. And it is said that there are millions of things outside, this is all for you. This whole thing is your arena, your football ground. It’s all for you, but then how much can you experience it? Only as much as your capacity. Like for example, you have two eyes. What happens behind you, you cannot see. You can only experience where your eyes can reach. Like that we have limitations. So numerous things, to experience them you have five senses, one mind. Mind with that particular sense makes you experience that particular thing. And what is the experience, broadly classified? Happiness or sorrow. This is human existence.

Total human existence. Millions of things, five senses, one mind, happiness or sorrow. This is how we live. Now this much is okay. Because this is nice. But then, how does mind becomes a botheration. When mind goes into the past, keeps/stores thing of the past and goes into the future with expectations, anxieties, fears, then that’s where the problem is. Otherwise mind has no problem, or mind is not a problem. Minimal mind is always good. Because you have a cool life. You experience every day. And you don’t store anything. Nothing from the past, nor we are going to the future. But does it stay like that? That is when awareness should come in.

What’s the basic awareness? Past is dead, finished. You can do nothing whatever you want to do in the past is impossible. Clear awareness. Future is yet to be. If you mess up today, your future will be messed up. So, we do what is best in this time. And if you stay in that time, that’s what I was talking about these activities here. Guru Subramanian kept it in such a way that it’s a rapid, very fast repetitive mode so that your mind can’t move. You know, you keep the discipline, you stay here, that’s a technique. So when you’re focused on your activity totally, hundred percent here, mind stays here. Then it doesn’t have time to move to the past or the future. And in that point, in that mode, mind is very effective. Mind is your servant. You know you’re here. Future… it doesn’t matter. The past is done. So in that mode, mind is effective.

But when you’re leaving the mind to roam in the past and the future, and regrets and relationships and problems and all those things, then it controls you then mind becomes the master. That is where the problem is. Otherwise, there’s no problem. If mind is your servant, there is no problem; for which the key, or the rope, or the leash is awareness. Awareness that I am only existing now and I have no idea about tomorrow. We don’t know whether we’d be alive tomorrow. And also, it doesn’t matter. No problem. Let it be. So, that’s the way to be. Is it clear?

Speaker: Yes, the question is as well why we keep a mind and why do we need to have a mind…

Mohanji: That’s what I told you.

Speaker: …then the link to the consciousness which is the state of the mind.

Mohanji: Consciousness is not the state of the mind. Consciousness is a factor which remains the same through waking state, dream state, deep sleep state. That is what we call three states, three cities, Tripura. And then we have fourth state. Like for example, you have all the sensors eyes, ears, nose, all those things. Behind that there’s a mind which is experiencing the world through these things, right? Senses cannot function by themselves, they’re part of your body. Right? Mind uses these senses to experience the world outside. Then mind processes it as happiness, sorrow. Two things. This is good for me, this is not good for me.

Now what is consciousness doing? Witnessing this function of the mind while energizing it. So, consciousness is the minor transformer, which is giving the electricity to the mind to experience life. And consciousness has three states but is the same. But in the waking state mind is more than consciousness or you wouldn’t know the consciousness sits. In dream state, mind and consciousness are more or less equal. In the deep sleep state, there’s no mind. Only consciousness. So, in the three states, consciousness is the same consciousness, but you experience it in three states. Right?

And there’s a fourth state called Turiya state where that state experiences the three states of consciousness as a detached form. Then there is a Turiyatita state beyond that; that is the soul state where the soul witnesses the consciousness witnessing the consciousness in three states and the mind beyond. Very simple. (Laughter)

Q: I was just wanting you to explain something about a Subramaniam aspect of God which we are worshipping here at Skandavale at the moment, specifically for people who might be new to Skandavale and not understand quite what’s going on when they’re looking at this.

Mohanji: Ah, Swami should tell you that. (Laughter). I should not talk about that. I don’t have the licence to tell everything.

(Group laughter)

Mohanji: I will just brief on this.

Subramanya

Shiva has two sons. Shiva probably has other sons but two that we know. Ganesha, represents a supreme consciousness aspect. That is why he has a huge body, elephant head, etc. because rithambara budhi, the intellect, cosmic consciousness is represented by the head of the elephant. That’s the highest or the largest mammal represented. And the huge body represents the created universe. Shiva is supreme consciousness represented by Shivalinga. There’s no way you can worship supreme consciousness which is un-manifested, beyond dimensions. So, the best form the great Rishis thought of is a Shivalinga. That is why you look at all the atomic reservoirs of the world, it’s in the form of Shivalinga, that form can source or store maximum energy without distortion, without a leak, without losing it.

Shivalinga is representing Shiva, a supreme consciousness, formless, and Lord Ganesha as the supreme consciousness, the larger aspect of Shiva. And Lord Muruga is the knowledge aspect. The pure knowledge; not the knowledge like… it is now morning and evening, and stuff like that. Knowledge which is the truth; that is why Subrarmania explained the secret of Omkara to father Shiva. When Shiva had a doubt as to what Omkara is, Subramania (skanda) explained this to Shiva. Why? Because Shiva is Omkara, he doesn’t know what it is. So, Subramania told him this is what you are. That means he’s knowledge incarnate. And also, there is an aspect of warrior. That commander aspect is because, we now talked about all these four people, four thieves. There are many things Kama, Krodha, Lobha, Moha, Mada, Matsarya, etc. All these are enemies of progress. He is fighting against them. Means he is knowledge incarnate. To keep knowledge, you need to ward off ignorance. Kama is what, uncontrolled desires; krodha, anger; matha, pride; matsarya, competition spirit; lobha is lust that you need more and all that. Moha is desire – I want this, I want that; never satisfied. All these things are against knowledge. So, he is the commander, who is protecting you from these enemies. So that you are with pure knowledge. Pure knowledge is the state of Shiva. And Shiva himself as Dakshinamoorthy is another aspect of this knowledge. Dakshinamoorthy is Shiva who is looking south. Where you can see a lot of Rishis around him. And Muruga has been worshipped mostly by the Siddhas; he’s connected to Siddhas. 18 Siddhas and all those people are connected to Muruga.

Q: So, what I hear from you is that… when we go inside we have in a way or an answer we have, you know, there you are. But they do seem to be meditations, or this kind of best parts seem to come clear to you as you live this life. So, what I have in mind is to be witness with people when they die. And, actually, it was funny  when you were saying with the boat, and crossing, because it’s as if there’s a moment when you come over in the boat from the other side, I never actually go to that other side, but you are somehow a ferryman. And then you, you move into this other place when you, this is what you do. And it feels that as the years have gone on, and then I mean, well just watching, we move here. And there is no hospice right here. Although I don’t actually have an issue with that part of it, but—

Mohanji: You should.

Q (continued): …that as the years have gone on the whole working or being with people as they leave and the people around that has become more and more, a very real meditation and expression in the world we live in now.

Mohanji: You are in the right track. Yeah…

Yes. Every moment is meditation. If you are aware that is it. That is, “Life is meditation”; not sitting in one corner and thinking you are meditating. And the shift of stages at the time of death, is amazing. Because basically it is nothing. Just leaving the body. No big deal. But then the process, where it is connected to attachment, to this body, attachment to things around us, all these things, everything, becomes completely irrelevant. And then you are leaving. That’s exactly what we are talking in the last part. How much you can raise your awareness at this last part, that becomes the flavour of existence of next life. So when you transcend, you move in that zone. That’s why suicide, murder, and all these things are absolutely detrimental. Because the last part of your life, you are on a level of resistance, then the next life starts with resistance. So, we must always be in a level of ecstasy.

You know, if you can leave with a wow, beautiful.

Speaker continues: And this is what’s happening more and more. It’s a way that I lived many years in India. And of course, in India years ago, in the 70s, if there was a dead body, then you actually didn’t go near it, and you didn’t touch it. And sometimes that could be very shocking. But even India also is changing in the way that…I guess that last moment, for even, for people that maybe haven’t so much meditated, can be a leap. And I don’t know, this just seems like…

Mohanji: That’s why, I don’t know about now much. But earlier, it was they light only one lamp in the place. So that the person who’s leaving connect to only one flame and there’s no distortion. When you’re connected to a flame, and the flame is going up, and then you’re connected to brightness. Plus, the chanting will be a scripture or something like Sahasranama, so that in that vibration provided through chanting, they leave.

A story about calling the name of the Lord

There is a story of one guy who was very selfish in life. And he hated Gods; he was an atheist. And he hated his children also because they were squandering his money. Then he named them the name of Gods, because then he can remember them more. Because those whom you hate you remember more, right? (Laughter).

One day he was lying down to die, and the lord of death came. It was a very fearsome point, because all that he earned all his life is going. Going to whose hands? To those he hates, his children. So, he wanted to scare his children, he called Narayana, Narayana. His son’s name was Narayana. He called Narayana to witness the lord of death, because he was scared. And when he called Narayana, Narayana, the lord of death left, because he called the deity. So, he survived. Then he was wondering, “How did I survive?” Because he called the name of the Lord at the time of death; Lord Vishnu.

These kinds of stories are there, that say the right names should be uttered at the time of death. But that has to be cultivated over time. You have to practise it. Otherwise, it won’t come at that time. Only think about electricity bill, water bill, credit card, cheques you have signed, and so on. That’s not good enough. You are thinking of practice, right?

Q: Leading on from that question prompted me to ask another question. The couple of deaths that we’ve experienced here in hospice, or here in Skandavale. It’s been either when what I perceive to be the soul leaving, or after a person has died. The vibration is beautiful. The two of them. Absolutely.

Mohanji: Stillness…

Q (continued): And yeah, and love and beautiful, and especially, you know, special, like you’ve walked into a temple, but you’ve walked into a room with a dead body. But that person is not long left. Actually, somehow you can feel that, that if they’re still there. And I was wondering, what is that feeling? Is that the soul leaving?

Mohanji: Normally, they only leave the body after 13 days. They hang on with other sheaths: the body sheath is the food sheath, then pranic sheath, the pranic layer; then it’s mind sheath, knowledge sheath, bliss sheath, and then the soul. Soul is in the middle and all other sheaths are around it. And that stays except the body, physical body. And they hang on for approximately 13 days.

Speaker: In the same place?

Mohanji: No not necessarily. That’s why in some of the places they keep food for them after they die. Everybody eats, they can also  see but they can’t eat and they don’t have the body but everything else.

Speaker: When one of our sister’s was dying, and I know a few people experienced it, it was as if she hadn’t died. But it felt, I don’t know if this was that the soul was leaving the body, but it was dancing. It was so joyful. It was bliss.

Mohanji: Yeah, when your connection to, or when your ownership levels are less, the moment of leaving the body is beautiful. Because you feel such a relief.

Speaker: That’s what it felt like as well. I’d like to say maybe she didn’t die.

Mohanji: In fact, you know, most of us experience this during the deep sleep state. We get out of the body peacefully and then we enter, some people have that remembrances. People have written about it, that they had an ecstatic state, the same state and there’s a quick rewinding of the major events of life and then it’s stillness, and then it’s peaceful. Shanthi. Perpetual.

Speaker: That bliss is…?

Mohanji: That’s your state. If you have another incarnation to make, then you go ahead with your work. But that transition,  it can be beautiful but that’s where you need to connect to something larger, bigger.

Speaker: …and many people have done that in their life time?

Mohanji: Yeah, yeah. For example, connecting to one object like Lord Krishna or Muruga or one deity all the time, chanting, then that consciousness automatically raises to that level, and it will be an ecstasy to go. And otherwise, connecting to a very powerful master, same thing. Whichever frequency you connect to, that helps you to go out and that energy stays in that same way.

 

Q: But what about people who haven’t had any connection or seemingly any connection to spirituality?

Mohanji:  No, but, it’s not just one life, right? It’s a continuation. What they have done in past to reach here, that person doesn’t know. In this life what they have done, probably they will know. And most of the activities may be unconscious; they don’t know what they are doing. But what brought them to this frequency, they may not know. It’s a continuation. Each life is like a page. You shift the page, another life, then it becomes the full book.

Speaker: And you said you do a quick rewind.

Mohanji: That’s each life.

Q: That’s only for that life, you won’t see the other life?

Mohanji: No, because you don’t see those lives now. You don’t see your past life now. That’s rewounded, then you go to astral plane, then you rework that, and you say okay, this is what you wanted to experience and this is what you have to experience, pending desires, then you take an incarnation. That’s why I said the USB is removed from the laptop, and USB contains your pending desires and your memories collectively. So that includes your connection, relationship, character, etc. Sometimes character also evolves over time. Character, desires, memories – these come together and then the sheaths (koshas) carry these and go, and then the USB is put into the next body and restarted. Then you bring back all this.

But again, as I said, between a death and a birth there is a shift happening as well. That each page is not that you’re just starting in that frequency but at the evolution, with your awareness, the awareness can evolve and then it comes back to another body differently. So, what you miss most in this life becomes the predominant agenda in the next life. That’s why don’t miss much in this life. Because that becomes a pending desire, agenda, thing to do. When you sum up or you configure your existence of the next life, that will come up as a top thing to do. Like we have our daily agenda: this I must complete today, this can be done later. Like that, and thus, the whole lifetimes are defined. That’s why, masters like Shirdi Baba say you have come to me. Now let me reduce your number of lifetimes. You know, imagine this is to be laid out over 50 lifetimes, let’s make it 20. That way you reduce the total. That’s what great masters do.  They shrink it. So that your merger becomes faster. That’s why it’s the interest of every master that you liberate yourself as fast as possible. And in the interest of soul is to liberate as well, as fast as possible. And even the information, the pattern, the roadmap, that comes only with the right eligibility, otherwise, you won’t get that. You won’t even think that. I mean, many people don’t even think beyond the mind or the gratifications, they don’t even think of a beyond state. Forget about death state. Death is a fear for many people. Death means big problem. One of the greatest fears is the fear of death. I’ve seen that even in spiritually high people. Towards the end they become very jittery. ‘Oh, I may die’. Very good. (Laughter).

But I’ve seen that and sometimes it surprises me. What’s the big deal? However, that remnant of fear sometimes exists without knowing. Not that you store it, but somehow the fear of death comes. It could be also collected, it could be acquired, maybe it is not yours. It can be that you have seen so many people’s trauma of dying, and you may get that impulse into your system, and then you think it’s yours. You wouldn’t remember that it is not original and you forget. For example, there’s some dirt on your body and you forgot to take a bath or wash it away, it stays, right? Like that, you collected from the nature and that has stayed on and then it stays. And at the time of death you have that fear.

Q: In your book Power of Purity you said playing video games especially violent ones and watching violent films or any films, reading newspapers your subconscious takes that on, and doesn’t differentiate between whether you’ve actually committed the act or whether…

Mohanji: Yes. Whatever your conscious mind dwells or subconscious think it’s real.

Speaker: And so, then you said karmically you have to live that out?

Mohanji: Not necessarily. That becomes your flavour, or part of your system. Whatever you consume, enters your system. Similarly, all inputs have effect in the system. Subconscious mind doesn’t know whether you’re actually doing it. When the conscious mind is working on it, subconscious believes that this is real, so it just stores it.

Speaker: So if you’re kind of killing people in a video game, your subconscious thinks…

Mohanji: …thinks it’s actually happening. That’s why I was talking about soap opera. The victimization of people,  very bad people, and people only thinking bad, how to harm other people. When you constantly dwell in that kind of energy, subconscious believes this is what you like. So it creates a life for this, to have this kind of things – emotions, etc.

Speaker: So, it’s not something you have to live out…

Mohanji: Not necessarily, you can go beyond it. If you raise your awareness beyond it all, this becomes insignificant. Yeah, but will you stay there? Because mind likes gravitation quite a lot. Mind likes to come to the lower frequency, we call it gratification. So if we stay beyond it all, it’s very good.

Q: I just wondering how do we increase will power so that we can become a bit more master over ourselves?

Mohanji: Laughter J. Iccha shakti, will power – center of heart. Jnana shakti – third eye. Kriya shakti – navel. Three shaktis: Iccha shakti, Jnana shakti and Kriya shakti. Three aspects of Shakti. It’s center of heart. If you concentrate on that and chant and…

The main thing which is against the Iccha shakti is tamas, inertia, like laziness, “Okay, I will do it later,” like that. That has to be countered by positive action; action as well as chanting on heart center. Close your heart and chant whatever, any chanting inside the heart centre. This is the place for the Kriya Shakti, action. Sometimes people become lazy. ‘I must go for jogging; okay, tomorrow! Then the day after…’ and then we pay somebody to jog for us.

(Laughter)

There’s a video of one guy who’s got a treadmill; he’s sitting on a chair with a beer and doing it… it’s the height of laziness. Very bad Kriya shakti.

(Laughter)

But understand one thing. It’s never constant. It can never be constant in human existence. It’s always waves. Vivekananda says this, “Life is all waves. Sometimes high, sometimes low. Our ability to accept these highs and lows is very important.” Watch your own life, it can never be constant, right? “I’m inspired all the time” – never happens. It’s not possible because we have a lot of factors connecting to it. So, it has to be high; it has to be low. Our ability to flow through like a wave rider, that is how we become successful. Not that you’re always on low and always on high; it is guaranteed not possible. Maybe when we are sitting and meditating in a cave in Himalayas… still there will be highs and lows.  “Today I don’t want to meditate. I am catching mosquitoes”.

(Laughter). Anything is possible.

We must accept realities as it is. When it is high, understand “I do maximum.” When it is low, “Okay, now this is low, nothing is working, slow down.” It’s like the road is bumpy. But you really want to drive in 120 km/h, is it possible or not? Not possible. You have to drive as per the road. But later the road becomes good, the nice open road, then drive. That flexibility or adaptability is more important than the highs and lows. Recognizing highs and lows is good, “Now I’m very productive,” do your best. “Now I’m not productive,” then “Okay, I slow down, I work on it.” But keep walking. I mean, don’t just sit there, you slowly move. Even 1 km/h speed is also a speed, right?

Speaker: Sometimes you feel like, “Oh yeah, I’m on a good road, doing things well, and then sometimes, it’s like mmehh…oh, why…”

Mohanji: That’s how it is. 7.5 billion people will tell you this is how it is. This is how the whole creation has this thing. Because we are playing duality. This is the drama, we are playing the duality, there’s an up and there’s a down. if there’s no up or down, there’s no duality. So in this duality, there is dark and bright, up and down, high and low. It’s all part of duality. And that flexibility and adaptability makes us successful. Never judge ourselves, then you will not judge other people. Right? And do not criticize yourself. Because we tend to compare with other people and we say we are not good enough. What happens is, even if you have an opportunity for full actualization, because your opinion about you is not so good, you will deny it. This is the problem. Then you take a lifetime to correct. Do you understand what I’m saying?

When you when you judge yourself or criticize yourself, you deny an experience also, without your knowledge. Imagine you have a potential for a really great experience in this life, but you say, “Oh, I’m not Mohanji, I can’t do this or something like that.” And then even if you can achieve it, you will deny it. At the end of the day, who loses? You will lose.

That is why Lord Ram went 14 years in the forest. He was in Avatar, he could have just shot an arrow from Ayodhya all the way to Sri Lanka, killed Ravana and brought his… he would have probably even prevented Sita from being kidnapped. An Avatar! But he went through the whole process. He took the help of the monkey squad and everybody, everything because he had to demonstrate how an ordinary man should handle life. That’s why. He did not present himself as an Avatar. He presented himself as an ordinary man for the sake of us. Otherwise, there’ll be no Ramayana, maybe only two lights or something.

(Laughter)

Or… He came to kill the demon, so he sat and shot an arrow. Finished.

(Laughter)

Whole chapters are not needed.

Furthermore, have you ever observed why Hanumanji is so powerful, and there’s so much worship, there are so many temples of Hanuman. So many temples. He is worshipped much more than Ram, there are more Hanuman temples. That is because Hanuman’s only object of worship was Ram. Totally integrated into Ram. And these Ashta siddhis (the 8 siddhis) and Nava nidhis (9 nidhis), again all the types of wealth were originally Ram’s. When you’re deeply integrated into a consciousness, which is very powerful, you have all those powers. Hanuman was deeply connected to Ram, unmistakably connected, all the time thinking about Ram, only Ram. And then what happened, he had all the powers of Ram.  The supreme consciousness, Ram is supreme consciousness. So he was constantly integrated into Ram, and he had all the powers. Another way of diffusing the ups and downs, stay connected, deeply integrated, and you experience the supreme consciousness all the time and then you will not judge because “I don’t exist, only he exists”, right? Hanumanji was not an ordinary man, he was a very, very powerful master. He was a great master. He said, “I prefer to be your servant in this existence, I prefer to serve you. Your wish is my command.” Then he said, “My body is always at your feet, to serve you. And let me be like this.” Then third thing he said, “But consciousness wise, you and I are one. Let’s play the role.” Pure awareness, right? Perfect awareness. I am not separate from you, but I prefer to play this role. So I’m outside of you, I can serve you. So it’s easier for me to integrate. Perfect bhakti yoga (bhakti-devotion).

It’s all for demonstrating the aspects of existence. That clearly states that these are possibilities. When you clearly know these possibilities, there’s no way you can be deviated. And as I said earlier, what you should choose is what suits you. What you can practise without effort, that suits you. What you practise with effort is not yours. Understand, you will drop it someday. You will want to wear a dress which fits your body. If it is three times larger or three times shorter, it’s difficult, somehow even if you fit in, you will not like it. Yes, please.

Q: Just one last question. What is actually the purpose of life?

Mohanji: Experiences, what you’re experiencing every moment. That’s it. it’s a moment to moment experience. Purpose of life for everybody is that even if it is a bird or an animal, that moment is the purpose and we have no idea about the next moments. Each moment’s experience is our purpose.

Q: Why is some of the experiences bad or good?

Mohanji: It does not matter, they are all experiences. That discrimination happens only in the waking state of mind. Mind tells this is good, this is bad. And that’s sometimes or mostly connected to expectations. I expect to be successful every time. But if success doesn’t happen the way I want I reject it. Then we say some, “It’s a bad experience,” things like that. So it’s all connected to the mind. Experiences are experiences. We decided and always, there’s no guarantee that an experience which we term bad is always bad.

A story – Bad is not always bad

There was a king who caught one of his favourite ministers and chopped his finger saying that he had been stealing. The minister was very sad because he hadn’t been stealing. Later on he was caught by tantric people who chop the head, bali, as human sacrifice. They wanted somebody and they caught him, but he had no finger, so they let him go. Because they said, “You are not perfect, your finger is missing.” Then he understood that the finger lost is better than the head lost.

(Group laughter)

So we do not know, sometimes some of the experiences which we call bad, are not always bad, we need to read the full story to understand.

Q: In common with a lot of people, I’m sure. Sometimes you get to a certain point, and you become very aware of a long period of time, some pattern of activities has been governing your life, certain habits, some mentality, your aspirations remain out there, not where they should be. And I was wondering if you could shed some light on how to break down pattern other than diet, (laughter) presumably one way of doing without going to that extreme. You’re trying to turn everything upside down or bring yourself out of that in a dramatic way.

Mohanji: I’ll tell you the nativity of it.

How does a repetitive thing come in life? Not even an activity?

There are patterns in relationships, patterns in money situations, patterns in jobs, we experience so many patterns in normal life. Where do they come from? They come from deep impressions.

For example, imagine that you have been travelling a path of pathless, like an aghori. One thing happens today, a totally different thing happens tomorrow, there is nothing settling. Everything is flowing, flowing in the sense, there is no system.

Then what would be your greatest interest?

To have a system. That would be your priority or top priority, “I must have a system functioning, there is a predictability.” When we dwell too much into unpredictable paths, we will crave for predictability. And then if it didn’t happen in that life, next life will have predictability pattern as a main theme. So, the path will be all predictable. But then predictability also brings monotony. Because you can predict every moment. So it brings monotony, when it brings monotony, you say, “This is crazy, I can’t have monotony, how do we come out of this?”

Thus in this war between unpredictability, an unpredictable path, like the path of Shiva, path of pathless, path of Datta, the way you travel, that’s the path and Avadhoota state, state of Avadhoota, where rain or sun, good or bad, it’s all the same to a state where there is some kind of a pattern. So when that is travel, mind will crave for a pattern. When a pattern happens, we have monotony connected to it, it’s always connected to the mind which expects.

What is the best way to overcome that mind?

Awareness. Awareness beyond it. Beyond this activity, there is a growth and growth is in awareness. There are so many things probably you never wanted or they were fringes, they were not really sufficient to integrate into a life. If it was sufficient to integrate into your life, it would have happened before taking birth. So, if it is not integrated into life, in this pattern, this was not so important in the original planning. Then, if a pattern is happening, this pattern is actually what is chosen. When you resist the pattern, it stays. When you say, “Okay, this is the pattern happening, no problem.”

A story of a Buddhist monk

There was a Buddhist monk who was giving lectures, and a lot of people respected him. One day, one girl became pregnant in this village. And she said this monk was the father. Everybody came, bet him up. Tore his house to pieces, etc, and brought the woman and gave it to him saying, “You must look after this woman because you made her pregnant.” He didn’t say anything. And then the child was delivered, he was looking after the child and he never said anything, yes or no or anything. After eight years or nine years, this girl started feeling very guilty. She saw his love and kindness and he was looking after them as ever, I mean, as perfectly as possible.

And then she told the village, “You know, actually this guy is not the father. The father of the child ran away. And I did not want to tell this to you to people because I was ashamed that I would be ostracized, that I would be expelled. That’s why I told his name.”

Then they came to the monk to apologize, “We are very sorry that we did not understand.”

“No, it’s okay. No problem,” he answered.

Then, there was no nothing from him. His awareness was above every activity below. Nothing touched him and he was just floating and he was in a state of bliss and all these activities was happening. No expectation of only glory, no expectation of only scandal or slander, no expectation. So what happens is your awareness is above everything and these patterns die by themselves. Because patterns lose their importance as well. If there is an activity, “Okay, I’ll do this activity,” from moment to moment. Moreover, other things do not enter either. Because there’s no “This is not good, then another thing should…” So the replacing doesn’t happen. Replacement sometimes means and the life. If you can’t replace something in this life, it automatically means another life. That means you’re ensuring another rebirth. That also will not happen. Because your awareness is above. And this routine is giving you more and more and more stability and you are dissolved.

That’s the way to overcome every situation, whether it is a monastic order or actual life. When you see from above, all the things happening, like we said, there are no good or bad, everything is happening and you’re watching it and it’s all happening, it’s flowing. And you’re not binding to it. You’re not even taking ownership. Like this girl said this guy was the father, he didn’t know. And people thought it was true, because he didn’t say that. Nor did he care. Later on when the girl said this was not the father, again he did not say anything. Why? For 8 years you looked after the child and the mother and you did not say anything? He kept quiet. Then they understood that he was a powerful Master. So it sometimes takes time.

Why I said this story is because we have every chance to keep our awareness here (he puts his hand high up). It doesn’t have to be here (he lowers his hand down). When it is here (at that low level), we always have opinions. We maintain the patterns. Because we resist. Maintenance is equal to resistance. We have objection, like human relationship. I don’t like this person, so I keep resisting, that person is always with me. It happened, right?

(Laughter)

We get married like that.

(Laughter)

Not my marriage…

(Laughter)

I put my hand in fire.

(More laughter)

That that’s the way it is. So it’s all about awareness. One word, awareness. Acceptance and awareness are two things which are absolutely fundamental for high speed growth and evolution. Acceptance is to yourself. It doesn’t matter whether you accept other people or the world. Because if you don’t accept yourself, you can’t accept the world. World is your reflection. So every bit of acceptance is to yourself as a full incarnation. Then awareness, awareness, that everything happens will also pass, nothing is yours. Even the body, everything comes and goes. Then this other resistance and other things will automatically vanish. In this life. This is the flow so be it.

Speaker: Does worship of God, let’s say in the form of Dattatreya or doesn’t matter which god, is that the key part of achieving that awareness?

Mohanji: Yes, worship is equal..

Speaker: That is our way of life. That is that process which is happening.

Mohanji: Yeah, worship is integration. Worship means you’re connecting to an idol. Idol is never an idol as it is, it’s an ideal. You know, an idol represents an ideal. Ideal is a state. The state of a master is represented by the form of a master. That is why I said, Mohanji is not the body, Mohanji is a state which is connecting to people. When you’re connecting to the ideal, then you are surrendering to that ideal. Why do we worship different deities? People have different tastes, and why because that ideal suits us. It’s suitable for us, for us to connect and integrate. Like in various places, there are different plug points, different types, so every plug will not accept every socket. You have to sometimes use converters. Here, I’m talking about no converters. The right plug and the right socket.

So you integrate to Bhagwan Ranganatha, or Bhagwan Dattatreya and the integration is equal to surrender. That’s what Hanumanji story I said, I don’t exist, he exists. I exist as his servant, means basically, I have no existence. I don’t need existence. A true disciple is almost like the shadow of the guru. When the guru moves the shadow moves. This is how it works. True, true disciple. There are hardly true disciples today, because people even judge the guru, “The guru should not look like this. He should…” They have opinions. Then all these opinions and doubts segregate. It is opposite of integration. That’s why it takes time. Then when you disintegrate, or you are separate from the truth or the master, you have all the effects. Everything hits you directly, all the pleasures, all the pains, all the phobias, concepts, doubts, everything hits you. Here if you are integrated to the guru, the shield is always there. Nothing hits you. So when you worship Ranganatha, you are Ranganatha. Always remember, there’s no separation. When you’re worshiping Ranganatha, you’re worshiping yourself. When you’re worshiping Datta, you are Datta and that idol is your representation. In that mode integration is just, like a matter of time, a very fast process. It happens very rapidly.

Mohanji: Yes, please. Yeah.

Speaker: Namaste.

Mohanji: Namaste.

Q: Since we’re talking about this mind and matter, I’ve got one question, suppose the attachment of ones in other’s minds, can that mind be degraded, on upgraded?

Mohanji: If the attachment is from the other person to you, rather than you from other person…

Q (continued): Well, suppose he’s got a high level of mind, he’s attached to some kind of devotion, or he is on the super value, and the attachment of that person to other person can degrade him or upgrade him?

Mohanji: Neither. Neither in fact.

Speaker: The reason I’m saying is that say that attachment of the mother to the son, or the attachment of the devotee to another devotee or to the lord or the master can move him from one place to another place or it will be in the same place?

Mohanji: See, fundamentally, attachment is connected to relative truth, it’s not permanent. We have seen people very deeply connected, and then later bitter enemies, or bitter enemies coming together. So everything is in a relative basis. We cannot say that this stays forever, another one stays forever, we cannot say. In addition, we can’t determine high or low, because somebody who’s deeply connected to the Supreme consciousness, whatever other people think, it will hit them, but it will not be enough to bring them down.

Somebody who’s very deeply connected like a Buddha, for example, who had one focus. He wanted to attain liberation. And his focus was that – he left his family, he did everything to attain that. Many people told him, “You made a big mistake, you should not have done that…” Even after enlightenment he was told that. But nothing moved, because what he wanted with the life with the original agenda, we talked about the prarabhda, part of the karma, which brought forth this existence, the original karma is powerful enough to take you through. In between all the other, the people, the relative experiences, the people coming in life, people going, their opinions, their likes and dislikes, they are all having only complimenting or contradicting whatever it is, as a flavour. Like your ice cream is one, you add strawberry and it becomes strawberry, add chocolate, it becomes chocolate like that. It’s a flow, life is one flow. In the flow of life, all these are relative experiences, nothing is permanent.

Speaker: Yeah, but as you say that in so in in the past, and we have we have seen so many places where the God has to come down to Earth to fulfil the wish of a devotee. In that sense, if you’re saying that is not true…

Mohanji: No, no, that is completely different, right?

Speaker: That is attachment as well.

Mohanji: No, that is a different thing. Devotion matures into oneness. See, when this attachment is what you asked earlier, through emotions between people etc. when you are deeply connected…

Speaker: Sorry, when I said, I said what one’s mind here, if you put one mind to another mind, can that mind be degraded or upgraded.

Mohanji: It depends actually. The state of mind itself is temporary. And the mind we are talking about is only operation during waking state, only when you are awake. In dream state it is not the same mind. In deep sleep, it’s not the same mind. So we’re talking about the waking state mind connection. Is that right or wrong?

Speaker: So if you keep on thinking of the same, the mind is always on the same thing all the time.

Mohanji: Yeah. When are you thinking?

Speaker: In deep sleep you are thinking the same thing, if you are awake you are still thinking the same thing.

Mohanji: How do you know that you’re thinking in deep sleep?

Speaker: Because you can’t sleep because of that…

Mohanji: Then you are not in deep sleep. It is not deep sleep, it is sleeplessness. Then that’s a waking state.

Speaker: It is not waking state I am talking about.

Mohanji: No, no, no, I’m countering you. No, you want to argue with me?

Speaker: I do not argue with you.

Mohanji: No, no, no, no, in this intellectual thing, I don’t normally engage. Because this is very simple. You’re talking about waking state mind, temporary, dwelling on relative stuff. Correct? Whether I connect with your mind, or you connect with my mind, it is two minds connecting. How long? How long will it connect? It has a duration, right? And this duration is already defined in that life. Some people stay connected longer, some people do not connect longer. Now we have three states. In dream state, you definitely cannot connect to that person. You say you are not sleeping because of another person. For example, you fell in love, all the time thinking about the lover. You don’t sleep, because sleep is not important. Thinking is important. That is not a dream state or a deep sleep state. That’s a waking state, extended waking state. Correct? In that mode, in that intensity, there is an influence between two people, for sure. There has to be connection.

Now second point you asked about is the devotee and God. In devotion, when it overflows, the devotee doesn’t exist. That’s exactly the thing I talked about Hanumanji, Hanumanji and Ram. Hanumanji had existence without Ram. His mind was filled with Ram and Ram has to come down because what Lord Krishna said, “My only weakness is my devotee. When somebody connects to me with heart and soul, I have to come.” That is a different thing. Then the devotee dissolves into the lord, bhakti yoga, height of bhakti yoga. That and two lovers’ relationship are different. That is why I said it’s different things we are talking about. We can argue about this forever. But if you understand this, ask me specifically what exactly you want to know.

Speaker: I want to know when there are two minds, if somebody can degrade another person from his own state.

Mohanji: Only if you allow it. That is why I said earlier, people talk about other people to me. When they start, I say, “Are you talking about this person? Keep this with yourself, you worked hard to get this information, I don’t want to know.” I prevent that information from entering my field so that I remain pure. This is our job. Imagine in your house, who will you welcome? Somebody who’s compatible. Do you think you’ll bring him in somebody who’s going to come and make a mess of the house? So it’s our choice to bring some people into our mind or their thoughts into our mind. It’s our choice. And we should keep our mind pure. Prevention is better than cure. It’s important. Nobody can just walk and make a mess, unless we permit it. It’s definitely our choice. You have another question, ask.

Q: The thing is that, what you’re saying, I agree with you about our house, but what I’m saying is that, is it possible to bring somebody to your own wish?

Mohanji: Why?

Speaker: I am asking.

Mohanji: We should not try. In fact, nope, I would like to see everybody as powerful as themselves, not as me. Because all the all the expressions you see here are independent creations, original, authentic, why should I expect anybody to be like me? I have all the weaknesses and strengths of everybody and they all have the same, I would like them to actualize into something higher, not become me. We shouldn’t even think that. That is what Hitler thought, “I make men in my own image or I destroy them.” That’s a “beautiful” theory.

Speaker: Most of the people want to be like you.

Mohanji: No, that’s ideological thinking. Somebody wrote to me, “I look at you as a perfect human being,” I said, you’re completely mistaken.

(Laughter)

I said, I have all the weaknesses and all the strengths of everybody. Because when you become not a one, one unit, you are everything, so you contain everything. What I mean to say is that we don’t have to have boundaries. First of all, we are not like that. We are not supposed to be in cages. Main cage is our own mind. Right? Our actualization is our birth right and you are actualized by birth. Only this mind factor, which is analysing and trying to assimilate, is delaying the process. Instead be natural, “I am fine.” And from this acceptance you have to grow to the highest level. That’s why true Masters create other Masters, the different Masters, not more followers. When you have more followers, it’s your burden. But if there are more Masters, it’s beauty in the world. True Masters should guide others to become completely fully expanded and fully like bright suns. So they’ll be brightness in the world, I believe this is the right path.

Q: So on how would you say one’s mother who has got attachment to the son, to relieve how you can separate and advise the mother not to have that attachment, so the son can progress further? How you can explain that?

Mohanji: You know, there are two things one is attachment, the other is ownership. Now you’re talking about ownership. As for attachment, look at every being, a bird or an animal or every being, every mother will have an attachment to the child. This is the way of nature, nature created that. Because this is part of nurturing. Now ownership is ignorance, ownership is part of it, “This child, I own this child.” Nobody owns anybody. So what happens? Through awareness, it doesn’t happen. Because after a while it should happen that the child grows up and then it’s on its own feet and things like that. And then if the child has to still support the parents, there should be freedom. The freedom should be there. If there’s no freedom, there’s no support. That’s why if the ownership becomes too much, ownership, possessiveness, control, binding, etc. happens, they’re put into old age homes. That’s why we have so many old age homes, because they don’t know what to do with parents. So they say, “I am busy, mother, I will come and see you when I have time.” The system is created in that way, because the whole education system has given insecurity to the world. Has the education system given freedom? It is not even teaching freedom. A true teaching is that a child is independent, individual, original, authentic that’s it, but we don’t allow the child to be like that. When I was in school, the teacher said I was retarded. Because the question, “What do you want to do when you grow up?” I answered, “I would like to be alone.” And teacher said, “This boy can’t come to study.” No, everybody wants to be an engineer, a doctor, a pilot, all sorts of things, I didn’t want to be anything. So this is the criteria, the benchmark. Well, that’s all very complicated to talk about because the whole system is moving in that direction. Yeah, but don’t confuse between ownership and attachment. See a child should be connected to mother, mother should be connected to a child that’s natural. But when you have ownership and possessiveness, it is unnatural. These two are different things. That leads to problems.

Mohanji: We have the Pooja, so shall we wind up?

Group: Thank you very much.

 

Transcribed by Kishore Mundanat
Proofread by Arvind Ananthan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Q&A in Munich – Easter 2011

Mohanji & the majestic Alps (and one of the beautiful Bavarian mountain lakes)

Dear Friends

Please find below the transcription of the two very intense Q&A sessions we had here in Munich with Mohanji over the past couple of days. Almost exactly one year after he conducted the first ever BTW session in Germany.

To top the great surprise of his short notice visit to Germany: he came during this central and important time of the Christian liturgical year: Good Friday (crucifixion of Jesus) until Easter Sunday (resurrection).

During the two sessions, Mohanji spoke with tremendous clarity and power. All interwoven with wit and love, naturally. The BTW meditations and Shaktipat were very intense and transforming. After the first evening Mohanji said: “I gave all today, if the same people come tomorrow, what should I give them?” Of course I knew what he meant, that there is only so much a meditator can absorb and take on board. At the same time I felt though, that the people could possibly be quite capable of churning fast. And also the second evening was indeed wonderful. With even more openness from the meditators. I had the impression that after the previous evening their system was already vibrating higher. Just remembering the group’s humming breath during Pranayama before we started the meditation the second evening: it was one single sound – a beautifully strong, dense, highly vibrant and elevating unity. The second evening began with the Q&A session, followed by the meditation. After the meeting with Mohanji was over, people continued talking to him in the hallway and then even in the street, until ultimately the group dissolved and everybody went their way.

Please take the time to read the following text until the end. What you will find in these lines below is truly essential and of  immense value. Mohanji gives clarity on topics such as:

• detachment & reduction of unnecessary baggage
• beating inertia/tamas
• the spine as THE key for spiritual evolution
• successful relationships
• the shift and 2012
• colour phenomena during meditation
• spiritual cleansing in dream state
• Easter & how to connect to Jesus’ consciousness
• the spine-heart connection
• addictions
• liberation

First comments and feedback:
• Dear Marina, Thank you, thank you so much, it was so wonderful, I am infinitely grateful to the universe to have met Mohanji and you in my life. I am lucky . (…) I cannot find the words to tell you thank you for having organised this meeting and having made it happen. It was a great moment for me full of emotions and gratitude. Have a very nice Easter Monday.
• Hi Marina, Thanks so very much for all the help and guidance extended for my daughter for attending BTW. Finally she did attend and met Mohanji as well… all thanks to you. She just called me from Munich and told me all about BTW. She is so happy to experience every thing with Mohanji and so impressed with every thing. Her faith in him has increased all the more and his view point. She is so Happy to meet him and also to attend this special BTW with Para Brahma and of course you as well. Thanks once again for making her attend this BTW possible. LOVE, LIGHT & HAPPINESS in Abundance.

Sending love and light. May you benefit from this blog post.

And I have to add: the simplicity of our path and Mohanji’s distinct approachability easily belie the deep transformational power, the rich tradition behind it and the individual tenacity required. May people feel and see the truth, with the whole of their being.

Happy Easter.

Marina

P.S. For the German translation, please follow this link:

http://btwgermany.wordpress.com/2011/04/26/ostern-2011-satsang-mit-mohanji-unendliche-liebe-und-kristallklare-klarheit/

Satsang with Mohanji in Munich – intense & intimate like a private audience – with guests from Berlin, Luxembourg and even Delhi

Q&A with Mohanji, Good Friday 22 April (after meditation):

Q: Can you explain the background music – the sound of water and the reoccurring wave-like music?

M: Interesting question. In three years nobody has ever asked that question. Nobody thought about this. It is an old friend’s composition. Our constitution is always peaceful. The mind is like a wave – and the music is exactly like that. The music is teasing in that way. But it is not contradictory, it is complementary to the programme.

Q: Is there an energy difference whether I sit on the floor or on a chair during the meditation?

M: In our meditation the most important thing is that you should be comfortable and able to sit without moving for an hour. This is a cleansing meditation. When things are moving out of your system the mind tries to manipulate the body in a way that you want to move, shift, or do something.

Your body, inside, is like a house that is dirty. I have found this in almost everybody, because we are not only carrying the baggage of our life, but also that of our family tradition and that of our country. This is also the reason why we sometimes do not understand why certain things are happening to us. If you look at your own past, it is easy to understand. But what about your environment and the conditionings around you? An example: you read today’s newspaper, some information caught your emotion and you got attached to it. This experience sticks as memory to you. Similar to a computer, sometimes if there is too much data, the computer crashes. Like that, we also sometimes go through those crashes.

I just had several big group sessions in Serbia and I have seen again how most people try to analyze their experiences. Once we stop analysing, we are free. To analyse, we use our intellect and we continue churning the experiences. When we drop this and just accept the experience we are liberated.

What we are here for is liberation, reducing the baggage. We are all carrying excess baggage, this is why we cannot enjoy every situation, we are not in the present.

Q: How do we get rid of the baggage?

M: I will tell you. First, you have to start today. You cannot move back into your past. Today you can choose to be in the present, consciously and  be with every thought. Let the mind be present with your thoughts. How do we do that? Imagine you have – let’s say – four or five children and some are very naughty. And you are just like a loving mother watching them play. Let them play. Our thoughts are like our children. Just watch them play, just observe, without doing anything. No scolding. No criticising, no judging, no censoring. Then you will be fine with your thought process. When you do that for one hour every day, play with your children, then you will be in the present with your thoughts.

You don’t know what I am going to say next, right? Likewise you do not know what you are going to think next. It is only after the thought is born, that you understand it. You have better control over your words. Before you talk or while you talk you can be with your words. Likewise with action: you have control over your actions. So on three levels of creation you can work on – thought, word and action. And on those three levels you are accumulating something. Again it’s like with your computer and the internet: thinking is like surfing the internet, one thing leads to another, one site leads to another and so on. Next is words, here you are actually doing something, you’re talking. But when your mind is present with every word, then there is no guilt about the past or anxiety for the future, you’re in control of the words. Then there is action. We have many thoughts, lesser words, and still lesser actions!

Now, how do you detach from all that? If there are no emotions with any thoughts, words or actions, you are on the path of liberation, because emotions are the glue that attach every word, every thought and every action to your system.

When the mind is with the past it is very difficult not to have any emotions. For example you saw a beautiful car and you wanted to buy it. You went home, checked your bank balance and found out the money you have is just not enough to buy it. But the mind is not happy until you buy that car. Then, after you bought the car, your mind actually does not care anymore. Then the mind wants a better car. But until you bought that car, that’s the most important thing. That’s how our mind operates, it can never be satisfied.

What you can do is, watch the mind like a mother and watch how it operates. Have you seen naughty children and how they play? You just stand there, watch them and slowly they will start becoming conscious of you watching them. No need to tell them anything. When you are just looking, they will come and start giving you excuses. They will stop by themselves, we don’t have to tell them anything. Watching and observing is much more powerful than talking. This is one way of detachment. The best way of detachment is meditation, meditating on your own thoughts and mind.

Now imagine a small window and thousands of people want to go through that window to the other side. Everybody is pushing and fighting as only two or three people at a time fit through that window. Our thoughts are like that. Now, when you start observing this like a policeman, they will stop fighting and stand in line. Likewise when you start observing your thoughts, the intensity of your thought movements will reduce. Slowly gaps will open up between the thoughts. And over a period of time the gaps between the thoughts will increase. What will be in this gap? Silence. Nothing else but silence. When you do this continuously, you will not fear silence anymore. You will fall in love with silence. The pressure of thoughts has gone and the space is filled with silence. So where is the baggage? There is emptiness. A beautiful feeling. Bliss!!! You don’t have to do anything else.

What are we doing every day? Look at the world out there. People are trying to fill their inner space with activities. They are afraid of any vacuum. They go from one pub to another or do one action after the other, in order not to feel the vacuum.

One person asked me the other day: don’t you get bored when you are alone? I answered that I get real when I’m alone. I am not afraid of being alone. It is not a depressive loneliness. It is self-sufficiency, which means you are content and complete within yourself.

When the senses are driving, you will always have to do something, otherwise the result is depression. Then, self-worth will be so low. When senses are driving you, you continuously have to do something and you will not understand the value of silence. Silence is much more valuable than anything else in this life. The only conquest which is worthwhile, in this lifetime, is the conquest of your own mind.

Enjoy the silence

Q: How can you detach from the mind?

M: This is what we just practiced during the meditation – we shift our awareness to the spine. Usually we are driven by our senses, which are oriented towards the front in just 120 degrees. When we shift our consciousness to our spine, by breathing through our spine, we start operating in 360 degrees, and this way the push of the senses is getting less. We won’t be pressured for action anymore. No “pressure for pleasure” anymore!

Actually the intellectual side of our mind is a much better friend for us, but whenever we become angry or emotional, the mind immediately puts the intellect into a locker. So that emotions are in total control. When the emotional wave is over, then our mind unlocks the intellect, and it can come out again. And then we regret, because we made a fight and we are sorry. So when you shift to your spine, when your consciousness is in your spine, then intellect will be in charge. And then you will have space between your thoughts, words and action. You will not be pressured for something. And when you are not pressured for anything, the success rate will be very high. Whenever we operate emotionally, success and failure rates will always fluctuate, like a swing – sometimes success, sometimes failure, most times worry. So this is one way of reducing the baggage.

If you practice the Power of Purity meditation, most of your stored emotions will come up. If you operate more and more from your spine, pressure will be less, anxiety is getting less and intellect is in control. Accumulation will be less.

We have various ways to reduce our baggage. Social service is very good. There is the saying “Hands that serve are holier than the lips that pray”. “If you can buy a poor man a tea, it will liberate you more than going to church or a temple. If you help someone you will have a much more expanded heart. I always recommend that. Do something beautiful. Not just with money and don’t think that you need much money to do social service. For example you can teach a child something or help someone to get a job. Some activity which is unselfish, that will liberate you.

Q: How do you control your mind – anger and restlessness?

M: You cannot tackle the mind directly. You have to watch it. That’s the only way.

What makes the mind strong? Your participation in the thought process!

If you get emotionally involved you will have agony. But when you are rooted in the spine you will automatically observe your mind. Your conscious mind that generally drives us crazy is a product of this life. Subconscious mind which has the full data is a product of many lifetimes. So, over all the lifetimes you had the same agonies, same emotions and frustrations. Then you took this body, a fresh body, with a fresh mind, which doesn’t know the past. Only your soul knows your past.

Where is anger coming from? Mostly from expectations!

We say we know something, but what do we know? We say we know many people, but we don’t know anybody. A husband does not know his wife fully. Children don’t know their parents and so on.

We are all living in a blinded world. And we do expect. He should behave in certain ways; she should behave in a certain way etc, because we like to put people into frames. We have certain ideas about people, but will they always behave like that? The point is to watch your thoughts. Where is the hook of your anger? It has to be from the past. From the past and the related expectation. And usually related to relationships. Relationships cost us a lot of problems in life; usually, because, we have expectations. But at the same time, if a relationship is based on a larger purpose – sometimes people come together to elevate each other to higher dimensions – then there won’t be conflicts. Then it will be a beautiful relationship. On that level nobody will bind the other person.

Most of our relationships are binding and conditional. If you behave in a certain way I love you and if you won’t, I don’t know you. This is how most relationships work these days. Worse is a relationship out of convenience. To be with someone because you are bored or have nothing else to do – and you form a relationship just to fill the vacuum. And it will crack just like that, because of varied expectations.

If this is the case, rather than forming a relationship of convenience, it is better to be alone and concentrate on your personal evolution. Otherwise, it only amounts to nuisance value and further agony. I always say, please use this life to understand life. And stay liberated. Liberation is state of mind – when the mind is not controlling the body and when the senses are not controlling the mind. If intellect runs our system we are safe. And remember we can only control our actions, not the results.

Q: What is happening in 2012?

M: The earth is already shifting. Also in Serbia I was asked about the recent tsunami in Japan. I was asked what I felt when the earthquake happened. I said from a distance it was just like a hick-up. From a cosmic perspective this is not a tragedy. But what is happening to Japan is serious. The earthquake hit right in the middle or stem of Japan – which is a coral formation – and the country tilted and shifted to the east.

Another aspect that is quite interesting is that Japan is the only country that is still doing whale hunting. They say they do it for scientific reasons. Last year, according to some statistics I saw, they killed about 550 pregnant whales for “scientific” research. Now, I read in a daily newspaper, that three big whaling ships were thrown onto the shore by the tsunami and a big whaling factory was completely destroyed in Ayukawa. Also, a temple dedicated to the souls of killed whales was completely destroyed. The dead whales don’t care about the temple!!!

When creation happened, the natural energy was pure – wind, water, sun –, was sufficient and did not cause pollution. And the oil that was still under the earth worked like the shock-absorbers in our cars. This was creating a balance between the continents on the whole earth. This has all gone. Over time we took all the oil from the shock-absorbers and replaced it with water. Will that work?

Whales and dolphins are very special creatures. They were the only creatures that were still energizing the earth. Their songs have soothed and nourished the earth.

The shift is also about the process of rebuilding. If you have a house you cannot repair anymore, you have to destroy it and rebuild it from scratch.

Let’s not worry about it. If you want to use the time to elevate yourself then the best you can do is shift to your spine. When a baby forms in the womb of a mother, the first part created is the spine. Every existence is based on the spine. And the spine is the stairway to heaven.

(Q&A continued but the voice recorder was full at this point).

Dolphins and whales produce healing sound frequencies

Q&A with Mohanji, Saturday 23 April (before meditation):

Q: How can I interpret the various colors that I see during the meditation?

M: There are different types of people. Some are vision-oriented. They talk about how something looks. Some are sound-oriented and they say how nice something sounds. And some are feeling-oriented. Depending on your orientation you may see, hear or feel vibrations. And in this way our meditation gives a different effect to different people. Of course you can also shift from see- to feel orientation as you progress spiritually. Colors signify the movements of energy and energy shifts. Energy is never constant.

Throughout your life your aura and your chakras will keep changing depending on situations. It doesn’t mean that chakras disappear and come back, but that the intensity of the energy in the chakras changes. If you experience a situation of deep fear for example, your heart shrinks. When the heart shrinks it cannot give full love. Sometimes you feel deep love for the whole universe without a reason.  This can also be the presence of a higher entity within you, like an angel. These things happen in life. Colours are basically a confirmation of  a shift of energy. But I always tell people to ignore it, because the colours do change quite often. So why should we hold on to some colours?

Chakras

Q: What about the colour white?

M: The chakras have the same colours as the rainbow. The colours show the state of elevation. White is the place where you originate from, where all colours come together and nullify. All colours come out of white. And all colours merge into white. Like all the souls merge into the supreme soul, and all souls come from the supreme soul. White is like a motherly light. That light is soothing, rejuvenating and nourishing. But again every meditation is different and it all depends on the constitution of the day. Many people ask me about their visions and what I think. I always answer: NOTHING!! 🙂

In this context I hear more and more about aura readings. I am not against you experimenting, but please be careful, it is your life. Prevention is better than cure. And if you are reasonably confident about yourself, you don’t need any aura or chakra readings. This is why I’m insisting on you going to the spine more and more. Because insecurities are linked to the conscious mind. You have no insecurities when you are in deep sleep and dream state. Likewise almost all these issues are related to our conscious mind and problems that we created.

Heavenly white light

Q: After yesterday’s meditation I dreamt a lot.

M: If we cut the strings of various emotions, sometimes this goes through your dreams. You will notice that in your dreams, and also when you are awake. Some people tell me that their stomach was churning, or they had a lot of hunger, or sometimes diarrhea, sometimes feeling anger and agitation. These things have to go through you, through your systems. Various things can happen, just accept it and don’t hold on to it. We are used to carrying the weight and until it is gone, we do not even realise that we were carrying something. Sometimes our ego does not allow us to get rid of the baggage. Pain is also associated with the ego. Some people like to say that they are suffering. It is so important to them.

The dream state has more room for action because it is not bound by time and space, so cleansing can happen faster. While you are sitting here you have limitations. Dare to dream!

Whatever you cannot handle pass it on to a higher level or surrender it to the God or your Guru. At work or in the office if there is something we cannot deal with, or beyond our capacity of handling, we usually consult or pass it on to our superiors, right? So let your Guru do his job. You can say: “Please take it over, I surrender this pain or experience to you.” In Shirdi Sai Baba’s case, many people asked him to take over, and it worked. Baba always said, that once you leave it and hand over, don’t look back. That means faith is very important. If you have no faith, it is as if you planted a seed and checked it every day to see if it is sprouting, then it will never grow.

Surrender and faith are important. Faith is like a big protection shield. If you surrender with faith it will work immediately. But when we just mentally say “I surrender“ it won’t work.

The more subtle you go, the more powerful you become. So if you are operating on the body level, you will just have physical power. If you are operating on your mental level, you have a different type of power. And on the intellectual level it is different again. When you are operating on the pranic level, like when we do the breathing, it is again different. But finally when you reach your soul level, you have the power of God. For example in the case of the master Lahiri Mahasaya, many times when people took a photo of him, he was not visible in the picture. So when you are operating on the soul level you become very, very subtle. Even your physical body becomes quite subtle. You will have a shape, but it is more or less transparent. On that level, you can command when the wind should stop, you can control the elements, because soul is above elements. But let’s understand, those great masters were able to heal, because they were not really worried about their body. For them the body was just a tool of expression, and they never cared, because the body has a beginning and an end anyway.

We give unnecessary importance to the body based on our identifications; and sometimes we suffer because of that. They say we should treat our body like a temple, and that means it should be pure. The god in the temple is the soul. So don’t pray too much to the body, but to the soul! And you do not need any priest or guru to bring you to your soul. Everything is given to us, we just have to see our own potential.

In the case of Jesus, He was 100% purpose bound. There was no confusion, He went ahead with His mission in a razor sharp way. He had a very clear picture that people would destroy his body some day. You know what he was attacking mostly? Inertia, tamas.  Inertia is what? – Complacency, laziness, interest in negative things and overeating, jealousy, anger, greed. During the time when Jesus was around, the community was well established in inertia. Because there were comfortably placed priests who controlled people and the life pattern was set. What do priests normally do? They control people through fear of punishment. And Jesus wanted to liberate the people. He told the people: you have the potential to reach the Father. Everything is within you. Your soul is the channel.

And when Jesus was attacking inertia or tamas, the people fought back. Because who really wants to leave their bed early in the morning when it’s still dark and cold outside. Of course, I am not talking about actual sleep here, but life in general. Jesus was trying to wake people up and told them to get up and start running. Do you think people liked that? And if society doesn’t like something they find every reason to eliminate the very cause of their dislike.

When truth is spoken, it can sometimes be very frightening. We do not like truth, we don’t like to hear it, we like to postpone the inevitable. That’s our nature. So when someone tells us the stark truth, we either prevent him or we annihilate him. Socrates told the truth, and we gave him poison. Jesus was only telling the truth and we crucified him. That’s human nature. We like to kill those people and then put their picture on the wall and say they were good. I’m not criticising anything, but let’s recognise the reality.

One thing about truth is important: when you hear the truth then your whole consciousness responds. It is not the mind responding with “Oh this is interesting, it could be true.”;  but your whole being will react and say, “Yes! This is correct.” This happens when truth is clearly stated.

Easter Sunday we are celebrating Jesus’ resurrection, using the occasion to have a drink. But do we use the day to connect to his consciousness? Use the day to connect to his consciousness! Jesus’ body has left us, but his consciousness has never left us, it is available. So if you are able to connect to his consciousness you will be able to heal people for example.

Jesus' body has left us but his consciousness has not

Q: How do we reach Jesus’ consciousness?

M: Through your spine. If you want to reach anybody, you first reach your own soul. And to reach your soul, to understand your own nature, you have to go beyond your mind. Find unity in all the three stages I explained to you before – awake state, dream state and deep sleep. First we reach our soul, then we reach other souls. Then we will become one with the supreme consciousness.

What is the difference between you and me soul-wise? We are children of the same father. Dalai Lama says it beautifully: “Remove my clothes, remove my skin, you and I are one.” It’s true. We are creating barriers based on our identities of this life. We only live 70-80 years. Such a short life! But we are hanging on to that. Saying I am Indian, I am German, I am British.

Another thing: The sun has been around all along, since earth began. It’s a witness, and we are not even able to connect to the sun!!! Once you start connecting with the energy of the sun, you will see the same energy and brightness existing within you. No difference. Sun uses the same energy, and the heat that you use to digest food. It’s all interconnected. How did we disconnect from all that.

Q: You said we can connect to Jesus’ consciousness through the spine, what about the heart?

M: Heart automatically reflects. When you connect to your spine and Jesus’ consciousness, love is the only experience you will have. Jesus’ main teaching was: “Love your enemy as you love your friend.” You cannot differentiate. You go through the spine and it is coming back to your heart.

Connectivity to anything higher has to happen beyond your senses, through the third eye. The third eye is linked to your spine and the expression happens through your heart. It’s all inter-linked. If you connect with the heart, heart cannot always stand the whole intensity. Expression can happen, no problem. Like the hands you can use them to do a job, but they are not running the show.

Look, 80% of your vital functions are controlled by your sub-conscious mind, like breathing, digestion, blood circulation. Just imagine if you gave the responsibility to the 20% conscious mind, one day you might forget to breathe!

But coming back to the point, how do you think those great Masters  function? Do you think their sub-conscious was controlling their vital functions? When in the path of liberation, slowly everything is taken over by the conscious mind, then the conscious mind is aware of every heart beat, because you are completely centered with it. You can travel through your body with every drop of you blood, consciousness-wise. When I say shift to your spine, the moment you will not experience it as an external entity, your experience and the experiencer become one in the spine. Because you will not be separate from the experience because you will merge with the spine. Then no heartbeat happens without your knowledge. Perpetually you are in a meditative state, samadhi state. Then you can control the whole body. Dimensions of existence are amazing. But people are only concerned about what to have for breakfast!

In memory of Jesus' crucifixion

Q: The problem of addiction, it seems out of control everywhere in the world. How can we tackle it?

M: Addictions start with a thought. For example before you start drinking, you think you would like to have a beer. And before the thought comes up there is an inclination which provokes the thought. Thought is born out of that inclination. Look, I never think I should have a drink because I don’t have the inclination to drink alcohol. What comes before the inclination? Karma! So the root is karma, which you carried forward from another life, because you wanted to experience alcohol. So the seed for drinking alcohol is already in your causal layer.  When the environment is right this seed will sprout. This seed is the vasana (tendency) and when there is vasana then you get the thought. You might suppress the thought but that does not mean it has disappeared. So in specific situations the thought becomes a word, and you might say “I want a beer.” Then someone gets you a beer and it becomes an action.

Addictions happen when the subconscious takes over: conscious mind engages in doing action, and then the subconscious takes over. Then it reproduces it, as a faithful servant. And then when you reproduce it over a period of time it becomes your habit and then part of your character. How do come out of it? Reverse the process! Take it out of the subconscious and bring it into your full awareness and consciousness. And when you are in with that drink or cigarette with full attention, every drink you feel 100%, and then this habit drops slowly but surely. That’s the only way. Life is simple, isn’t it!

The beauty of simplicity

Q: What about successful relationships?

M:  Do not try to prune the tree. If you allow a person to be natural, the person will be reasonably peaceful. Accept the other one with their pluses and minuses, like yourself. Most people who go wild have been suppressed. In a relationship you can not bind anybody to you. Allow each other the freedom to be. You cannot control anybody. We don’t even have control over our children, if you try they will abandon you.

You see, everybody comes with a particular shopping list, which is not necessarily yours. We have to accept that. And everybody comes with enough potential to finish the shopping list in this life.

Often we are very dictatorial in our relationships. A Guru or Master can be dictatorial because sometimes you need a kick to leave your comfort zone. But a relationship is a mutual journey and especially if the purpose is clear, it is more enjoyable. But don’t take a destination like enlightenment as the purpose of your relationship that does not work. The enlightenment is something that happens to you when the ground is ready.

Of course, there are courses for “intense enlightenment” where you pay lots of money, but we cannot buy enlightenment in the shops. Sometime in the past I attended a session in Dubai, where a woman told the group: “I think I am slightly enlightened”. I really liked that, everybody was clapping their hands. How can you be slightly enlightened? You are either enlightened or you’re not. You know what Osho said: “It is Yes or No or Wow.” Even in the Kriya Yoga path – I’m sure you have read Autobiography of a Yogi – you just raise the kundalini up  to the third eye level during sadhana, the rest happens automatically. You cannot decide whether you get enlightenment within a few days. It cannot be promised. So, this is the reality.

Now, are you ready for meditation?

Mohanji, thank you!